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Enabran Templar
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10-23-2005 13:04
From: DogSpot Boxer Explain to me how it is that you are being "forced to deal with" Coco, when you aren't under any obligation to read anything she's posted? I'm afraid I can't answer your question because you have founded your argument on a non-existent premise, highlighted above. Please retry your query with a valid quote. 
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DogSpot Boxer
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10-23-2005 13:11
From: Enabran Templar I'm afraid I can't answer your question because you have founded your argument on a non-existent premise, highlighted above. Please retry your query with a valid quote.  Specious, at best.
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Enabran Templar
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10-23-2005 13:14
From: DogSpot Boxer Specious, at best. Sorry, kiddo, it's just that no one claimed to have been forced -- except for you. Looks like you know a thing or two about specious arguments. 
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April Firefly
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10-23-2005 13:23
From: DogSpot Boxer I'll ask you the same question, I asked Buster. Is someone forcing you to read and comment in this thread? Explain to me how it is that you are being "forced to deal with" Coco, when you aren't under any obligation to read anything she's posted? Here's the thing, Enabran. If it's "grating", it's because you choose to read Coco's posts and allow yourself to be "grated" by her comments. There is absolutely NO good reason to be giving Coco a hard time in this thread. April, that's not a hard time. Neither is what Buster is doing or anyone else. I am just merely pointing out that the argument you are using could be used against you. Everyone is communicating. It is the point of the forums.
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Cocoanut Koala
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10-23-2005 13:26
From: Enabran Templar I think the point is not that threads are opened, but that they are opened about the exact same subject in rapid succession, often to state the obvious, and while numerous other threads on the exact same subject are still in play. It is pretty wearisome. Maybe you do it as an attention craving thing, I dunno. An attention thing? Enabran, sometimes I wonder about you. I have my whole life taken part in things. When I have something to say, or when I want to focus a discussion and accomplish something with it, I do it. Nobody has ever viewed this as an "attention-getting" thing on my part. Everyone has always listened, and talked. WITH respect. It's how things get done. Your implication is that I'm stupid and have nothing to say. In fact, you actually say I only "state the obvious." If that were true, Enabran, I would not be where and what I am irl. The threads were in rapid succession because the events were coming down in rapid succession. Look at those titles. Be reasonable. You KNOW there was logic and intellect in it. Go find somebody else to constantly criticize. PLEASE. It's clear you just don't like having me post on these forums, and you grasp whatever little point you can to try to prove that I am somehow different from everyone else, regardless of what the subject is. It's almost pathetic. If you are going to paint me as someone stupid with a neurotic need for attention, then I guess I could paint you as several things I think you are, and I suppose that wouldn't be a personal attack either. But except for saying that this constant attention from you is pathetic, I won't. coco
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10-23-2005 13:30
From: Enabran Templar Sorry, kiddo, it's just that no one claimed to have been forced -- except for you. Looks like you know a thing or two about specious arguments.  It's specious because one can easily infer what your intent from that post. You other posts in this thread support your intent. So, yes, specious.
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10-23-2005 13:34
From: April Firefly Neither is what Buster is doing or anyone else. I am just merely pointing out that the argument you are using could be used against you. Everyone is communicating. It is the point of the forums. I guess we can agree to disagree. I see both Buster and Beau's posts as pointless pokes at Coco. It's not "communication". Communication is perhaps asking Coco if she could not start new threads and instead use existing threads. --------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW, I want to point out that this thread did not start out as being about Coco. But because a few people here needed to poke at her, it most certainly will end up as being about her.
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10-23-2005 13:38
From: DogSpot Boxer It's specious because one can easily infer what your intent from that post. You other posts in this thread support your intent. Hmm. I can infer you like to ride horses and go canoeing from your post. Hey, wait, no I can't. But I can claim that I can! See how that works? You need to provide concrete fact or quotation to support those sorts of claims. From: Cocoanut Koala If you are going to paint me as someone stupid with a neurotic need for attention, then I guess I could paint you as several things I think you are, and I suppose that wouldn't be a personal attack either. For the umpteenth time, Cocoanut, if you're really so bursting with things to call me, just get it over with. Do it via PM if you fear more edits from Jeska. Every so often we all have to hear about the several things you could say, the many things you think but don't want to mention, and on and on. As for your penchant for stating the obvious, well, I guess there is a sort of community service element to letting us know "where we are now" about things even after Robin, et al, have made it abundantly clear. 
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10-23-2005 13:40
From: DogSpot Boxer --------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW, I want to point out that this thread did not start out as being about Coco. But because a few people here needed to poke at her, it most certainly will end up as being about her. That's a lot of dashes! 
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Eboni Khan
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10-23-2005 13:40
From: Cocoanut Koala If you are going to paint me as someone stupid with a neurotic need for attention You are the only person with a brush and paints around here...
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10-23-2005 13:50
From: Enabran Templar Hmm. I can infer you like to ride horses and go canoeing from your post. Hey, wait, no I can't. But I can claim that I can! See how that works? You need to provide concrete fact or quotation to support those sorts of claims. One of the great things about language is that someone can dance around a subject and everyone else knows what they mean.
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10-23-2005 14:00
From: Enabran Templar For the umpteenth time, Cocoanut, if you're really so bursting with things to call me, just get it over with. Do it via PM if you fear more edits from Jeska. Every so often we all have to hear about the several things you could say, the many things you think but don't want to mention, and on and on. As for your penchant for stating the obvious, well, I guess there is a sort of community service element to letting us know "where we are now" about things even after Robin, et al, have made it abundantly clear.  Try reading the thread, Enabran, instead of just criticizing it. It was taking the various elements of what we are losing in classifieds - and a request to brainstorm to figure out other ways to accomplish those ends. In it, I listed the various parts of classifed that would no longer be here, and suggested how we would handle them in future. For instance, "Products Wanted" would be less of a problem, because someone (maybe Robin) had said we could discuss at least discuss those under the posts-only. Job opportunities and Jobs wanted - those would be trickier. I suggested we could put them under "Scripting," "Building," and "Events." Someone else said that they thought the scripters wouldn't like that. Then the person said they thought they remembered that people had done it before and the request had been removed. Or something. Etc. etc. etc. I shouldn't have to be recapping this for you, to explain that it was a detailed analysis of where we stood regarding the classifieds we were losing, and a request to brainstorm what we could do about them. I shouldn't have to be recapping this for you, because had you read the thread, you would know it was more than my simply restating Robin's several sentence answers in the Hotline. I'm not bursting with things to call you. I'm pointing out how unnecessary it is for you to call me things. TOTALLY unnecessary. TOTALLY off the subject. And you know it. I don't not call you things because I fear edits by Jeska. I don't call you things for the same reason I don't PM you to call you things - it's because I don't generally call people things. I sure don't hop into their threads to call them stupid and attention-seeking just for having the audacity to create a thread without first getting Enabran's approval. coco
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Enabran Templar
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10-23-2005 14:53
Hey, ask a "dumb" question, get a dumb answer, I s'ppse.
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Nolan Nash
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10-23-2005 15:08
From: DogSpot Boxer I'll ask you the same question, I asked Buster. Is someone forcing you to read and comment in this thread? Explain to me how it is that you are being "forced to deal with" Coco, when you aren't under any obligation to read anything she's posted? Nor are you or Coco forced to read anything. 
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10-23-2005 15:12
Hi Coco, I thought I'd just offer you a pleasant "Hope You Have A Great Day" - You deserve it.  Champie
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10-23-2005 15:31
*sigh* See folks, Nolan here has it in his head that I'm an alt. But for some reason, he hasn't developed the moxie to come out and say who I'm supposed to be an alt of. Nor is he able to bring any proof to that claim. Instead he's gotta take cheap little shots at me.
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Cristiano Midnight
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10-23-2005 15:37
With all this talk of forcing, which is oddly arousing, I did want to chime in. Prokofy Neva is forced to use Snapzilla to get pictures on the front page of SL.com. That is the real injustice! All hail the checkbox that will set him free.
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Nolan Nash
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10-23-2005 15:37
From: DogSpot Boxer *sigh* See folks, Nolan here has it in his head that I'm an alt. But for some reason, he hasn't developed the moxie to come out and say who I'm supposed to be an alt of. Put up or shut up, Nolan. That's right, I'm calling you out on it. Either bring the evidence and "out" me or shut the hell up about it. What the hell are you talking about? I am saying that when people say, "you aren't forced to read", that ball can be served right back at them. Hence my use of the matriochka dolls - it's an endless loop. Now, tell, what has that to do with alts?
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Cristiano Midnight
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10-23-2005 15:40
From: DogSpot Boxer *sigh* See folks, Nolan here has it in his head that I'm an alt. But for some reason, he hasn't developed the moxie to come out and say who I'm supposed to be an alt of. Nor is he able to bring any proof to that claim. Instead he's gotta take cheap little shots at me. What does any of this have to do with who is an alt of who? It is about no one having to read anybody else's thread, so complaining that someone posted something is silly. If someone doesn't like Cocoanut's threads, ne les lisez pas. (sorry, Nolan's broken image link has a cool French error message if you go to that page).
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10-23-2005 15:46
From: Cristiano Midnight What does any of this have to do with who is an alt of who? It is about no one having to read anybody else's thread, so complaining that someone posted something is silly. If someone doesn't like Cocoanut's threads, ne les lisez pas. (sorry, Nolan's broken image link has a cool French error message if you go to that page). Fixed image, was still ok to me til I refreshed. 
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10-23-2005 15:50
From: Cristiano Midnight What does any of this have to do with who is an alt of who? It is about no one having to read anybody else's thread, so complaining that someone posted something is silly. If someone doesn't like Cocoanut's threads, ne les lisez pas. (sorry, Nolan's broken image link has a cool French error message if you go to that page). It's not silly when you're defending someone who gets shit in nearly every thread she posts. Don't bother to try deny that, Cris, because you and I both know it's true. A lot of people simply don't like Coco (or me for that matter). That's fine, but what's really stupid is for people to continually bitch at her. Nolan, I apologize for not understanding the meaning of those images.
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10-23-2005 15:54
"You know, the problem with a really redundant loo--"
"I AM NOT HER ALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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<awkward glances all around>
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10-23-2005 16:02
From: DogSpot Boxer It's not silly when you're defending someone who gets shit in nearly every thread she posts. Don't bother to try deny that, Cris, because you and I both know it's true. A lot of people simply don't like Coco (or me for that matter). That's fine, but what's really stupid is for people to continually bitch at her. Nolan, I apologize for not understanding the meaning of those images. Dogspot, I was responding about those complaining about her in the first place, not you. I agree with you. The point is that none of us are forced to read anything, it's all voluntary.
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