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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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12-15-2005 16:25
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
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12-15-2005 16:28
Very, very cool.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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12-15-2005 16:32
Woo-hoo, thanks for the link!
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blaze Spinnaker
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12-15-2005 16:32
Well, this is a great way to kiss any future VC money away.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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12-15-2005 16:35
Well, this is a great way to kiss any future VC money away. And a great way to kiss away future grid attackers! |
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Burke Prefect
Cafe Owner, Superhero
Join date: 29 Oct 2004
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12-15-2005 16:35
Lets hope some good will come of this.
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Jeffrey Gomez
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12-15-2005 16:36
As long as Homeland Security doesn't list us all, that is.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-15-2005 16:39
Well, this is a great way to kiss any future VC money away. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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12-15-2005 16:40
Fact is, becoming a nuisance isn't a great way to make friends and influence people in high places.
I should know! As for the VC, they probably won't want to touch SL with a ten foot pole. Would you want to invest money in something the FBI are investigating? Now CNET has picked this up and god who knows is going to pick it up from CNET. If they haven't contacted the FBI, they sure better do it now! Frankly, if they just took my advice and throttled llGiveInventory like I said... _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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The Quirk
SL:UT
Join date: 6 Sep 2004
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12-15-2005 16:42
sweet rhubarb pie!
it's good to see that scallywags will have something to think twice about before attempting their little griefing games 'round these parts. this is far from bad press.. i don't think we need to hold our breath about something good coming from this. first of all, something good already came of it, secondly this could have two different effects.. possibly both.. 1) the little hacker bastards will think twice before attempting something like this and/or 2) (the bad part) it may attract more nimble hackers who want a challenge when flicking about their doomsday keystrokes. regardless of what repurcussions may rear up, this is a step in the right direction.. hell, a LEAP, if you ask me. HUZZAH!!  |
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blaze Spinnaker
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12-15-2005 16:43
It's OK press with the gaming crowd.
It's terrible press with the investment crowd. When you go to do due diligence and then you read about "FBI" I'm not sure you're going to want to put more money into SL. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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12-15-2005 16:45
Not to mention all the shit that goes on in SL. Why is the FBI going to protect people's right to "Age Play" ... I mean, christ, what a dumb move.
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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
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12-15-2005 16:49
Just goes to show. As I suspected, LL isn't "not doing anything", they just are doing the prudent legal thing and not naming names until they can land it in court. _____________________
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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12-15-2005 16:51
Not to mention all the shit that goes on in SL. Why is the FBI going to protect people's right to "Age Play" ... I mean, christ, what a dumb move. Someone's quite upset about not being able to Age Play! D'oh, you're my alt, sorry, I'm a schizophrenic! |
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Hank Ramos
Lifetime Scripter
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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12-15-2005 16:53
Someone's quite upset about not being able to Age Play! D'oh, you're my alt, sorry, I'm a schizophrenic! Can you send me a TP inworld nimrod to the corn field? |
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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12-15-2005 16:53
Fact is, becoming a nuisance isn't a great way to make friends and influence people in high places. I should know! As for the VC, they probably won't want to touch SL with a ten foot pole. Would you want to invest money in something the FBI are investigating? Now CNET has picked this up and god who knows is going to pick it up from CNET. If they haven't contacted the FBI, they sure better do it now! Frankly, if they just took my advice and throttled llGiveInventory like I said... Blaze do you realize how often companies are contacted by the FBI for things like "hey how are the kids?" In a situation like this it is LL who contacted the FBI so it is not the FBI looking into LL. It is the FBI talking TO LL to see what can be done about the situation. FBI does not = bad Also where in the article does it say "the FBI is looking into LL" it states "LL has handed over names of attackers to the FBI". _____________________
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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12-15-2005 16:56
Not to mention all the shit that goes on in SL. Why is the FBI going to protect people's right to "Age Play" ... I mean, christ, what a dumb move. Reference game "Sociolotron". Not providing a link or anything else. Let's say they take the worry out of the age play thing. What they do is down right illegal in the US "if" actually done. Not to mention heck...how many of you orcs or elves slaughtered humans this week in WOW? They take things a bit more lightly in mature environments so long as the participants are all over age. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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12-15-2005 16:56
Look, the FBI isn't dumb.
They don't go around investing tonnes of time into things unless it makes sense. They're not just a bunch of street cops you yell out "stop thief! he stole my purse!" They are a bunch of relatively well educated individuals who are fairly political, and I'm sure they'll be coming up with every reason in the book why they should ignore Philip, and it takes about 10 minutes inspection to come up with those reasons. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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blaze Spinnaker
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12-15-2005 16:57
I mean, holy ****, don't you think they're going to start asking questions about this fake currency thing?
A bunch of kids crashing the grid is nothing compared to what's going on in SL. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Cory Edo
is on a 7 second delay
Join date: 26 Mar 2005
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12-15-2005 16:57
Would you want to invest money in something the FBI are investigating? The FBI aren't investigating Linden Labs. They're investigating the grid attack. That being said, you're right - I'm sure no one is going to be investing money into the guy that attacked the grid anytime soon, unless its his parents and its bail money. _____________________
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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12-15-2005 16:58
Look, the FBI isn't dumb. They don't go around investing tonnes of time into things unless it makes sense. They're not just a bunch of street cops you yell out "stop thief! he stole my purse!" They are a bunch of relatively well educated individuals who are fairly political, and I'm sure they'll be coming up with every reason in the book why they should ignore Philip, and it takes about 10 minutes inspection to come up with those reasons. Blaze not saying the FBI won't shrug but frankly since the hacker attack caused a real life loss of $$ to LL it is a crime that they can pursue and are doing so by using proper channels. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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12-15-2005 17:00
<editted because the FBI is probably reading this post>
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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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12-15-2005 17:01
I mean, holy ****, don't you think they're going to start asking questions about this fake currency thing? A bunch of kids crashing the grid is nothing compared to what's going on in SL. why investigate a fake currency that people want to pay RL cash for....they won't care about that...oh wait...you're listing your monetary gains in yoru taxes right? FBI can't do jack against the people in SL for a variety of reasons so they cannot touch it. Don't believe me then go visit IRC.dal.net and look for adult things there...or newsgroups...think they have one there for erotica involving hampsters and ducktape amoung other things posted within the indivdual messages there. _____________________
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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12-15-2005 17:03
<editted because the FBI is probably reading this post> taxes? I live in some small island that is my own in RL...taxes? If the FBI comes knocking on my international door...I'll... You get the idea. Also frankly the US tax system is already aware of you getting large sums of money since you were using yoru CC or paypal to transfer funds...they just ahven't decided to react on it yet. _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
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12-15-2005 17:04
Uh... blaze... everyone can be DoS'ed. Yahoo has been DoS'ed, eBay has been DoS'ed, friggin Microsoft has been DoS'ed.
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