Things that drive builders nuts
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
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07-01-2005 11:53
From: Wilan Deckard I think the argument about cost/prims is a valid one, however, perhaps this is an option that should be available for adjustment on the private islands/continents? Make it become a governmental decision for those places so that the Lindens don't have to get involved in ajudicating griefer issues. This would also improve the market for land in those private sims and leave it to the builder to have a choice between the two types of environments. Dreamland, for instance, has some strict zoning rules that would still have to be complied with.
Wow, now that in a very kewl suggestion Wilan, because it serves two purposes: 1) It would give private Island owners an incredibly powerful builder tool and.. 2) It would give Linden Labs a chance to experiment in a non-dangerous environment to see if 50m prims are a viable system option. Sometimes the lightbulb just slams on. 
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Wilan Deckard
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07-01-2005 12:04
Good points. They might have to limit it to those islands/continents that aren't visible from the mainland, though. Unless the water boundry serves the purpose that those posting earlier about borderzones were worried about.
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
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07-01-2005 13:10
From: Wilan Deckard Good points. They might have to limit it to those islands/continents that aren't visible from the mainland, though. Unless the water boundry serves the purpose that those posting earlier about borderzones were worried about. Yes, but that's the great thing about an ISLAND sim... water all around. : ) This actually could even be done where two island sims sit next to each other (as is the case with ElvenGlen and Bedford), or even on private Mainland by putting in a routine to have adjoining sims ignore the presence of another (ie, it's invisible and non-tranversable other than by teleport) if one of the sims has the "large prim usage" clicked on. Yup, still a brilliant idea you came up with. But even if they only applied it to pure-island sims at this time (which ElvenGlen is about to become), it would still be a fantastic arena to test out the large-prim concept.
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Racer Plisskin
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07-01-2005 18:22
From: Wayfinder Wishbringer Additional note: as you pointed out "aside from curved shapes" larger items can be made from several smaller prims. Wouldn't it be nice to use that prim count for details rather than walls? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to build a large sphere, or a geodesic dome... in one prim (rather than the 37 I recently had to use?). Wouldn't it be nice to have a 30m curved wall on the outside of your home rather than something that looks like it came out of a Bizarro faceplate?  Wouldn't it be kewl to make a domed-glass home with almost 2000 sq ft of living space... and only 1 prim required for the dome? Such are the reasons for wanting larger prim sizes. This 10m limit restricts many types of imaginative building. Nope. The prim limit size restricts nothing... What it does is 'encourage' you to own more land and pay tier on it (wether directly or indirectly through rent) in order to use the extra prims to get whatever result you are looking to achieve.  The only way a truly determined builder could be restricted is if a full island simm cannot support the intended build... Even then, you could get two islands and build 1/2 on each, but like stated before. this is an ugly answer due to border issues. Bottom line, SL is a buisness. Yet another nail to add to the larger prim coffin... Racer P.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-01-2005 20:56
and they believe in theyr heresy
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
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07-01-2005 22:25
From: Racer Plisskin Nope. The prim limit size restricts nothing... What it does is 'encourage' you to own more land and pay tier on it (wether directly or indirectly through rent) in order to use the extra prims to get whatever result you are looking to achieve. The only way a truly determined builder could be restricted is if a full island simm cannot support the intended build... Even then, you could get two islands and build 1/2 on each, but like stated before. this is an ugly answer due to border issues. Bottom line, SL is a buisness. Yet another nail to add to the larger prim coffin... Racer P. Good points Racer. Smaller prims does indeed force people to purchase more land so they can build something halfway decent. Comes the dawn.
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07-01-2005 22:27
From: Racer Plisskin Nope. The prim limit size restricts nothing... What it does is 'encourage' you to own more land and pay tier on it (wether directly or indirectly through rent) in order to use the extra prims to get whatever result you are looking to achieve. The only way a truly determined builder could be restricted is if a full island simm cannot support the intended build... Even then, you could get two islands and build 1/2 on each, but like stated before. this is an ugly answer due to border issues. Bottom line, SL is a buisness. Yet another nail to add to the larger prim coffin... Racer P. Interesting point. As much as I would hate to think that the prim limitation is designed to force people to purchase more land (and really doubt that is the case)... there are far more reasons to allow larger prims than to not allow them. So true or not, the decision certainly makes users wonder. Which is never good.
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Donna Garden
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bigger prim sizes
07-17-2005 11:12
make 'em bigger, please
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