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Aegif Goodliffe

Registered User

Join date: 23 Dec 2005

Posts: 5

07-14-2006 00:38

We had about 29 objects return to inventory for no apparent reason at
SHINDA 245, 180, 27

(see gaping holes)

Very unusual for this to happen. No objects were overhanging at all.
Objects from multiple users - they were not returned by the land owner, who did not log on today at all.

Neighbor reports returning a "tent" from his land earlier today, but doesn't match time of object return which was about 5:00 PM SLT/PST 7-13-06.

Linden please take a look as this could be a very damaging issue to builds.

thanks
Aegif

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Sinatra Cartier

From Beta to Zeta!

Join date: 8 Jan 2003

Posts: 533

07-14-2006 05:23

Aegif, you are not alone.
I get objects returned about once every two weeks from my land where I have plenty of prims available and have "create objects" turned off until I am personally building on it. This has happened to me since beta (over three years)

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Doubledown Tandino

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Join date: 9 Mar 2006

Posts: 1,020

07-14-2006 05:57

I lose one railing from my club about once every three weeks...

I think my land is haunted with a ghost.

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Geoffrey Steinbeck

Registered User

Join date: 1 Oct 2005

Posts: 29

07-14-2006 11:37

I have had numerous items returned to me for no reason since this latest upgrade.

I don't know whether this issue's going to be noticed (by the Lindens) in this area of the forums though.

Maybe in Tech Issues or Current Version Feedback..?

I'm off to post there.

Geoff.

Aegif Goodliffe

Registered User

Join date: 23 Dec 2005

Posts: 5

07-14-2006 14:09

Thanks for posting.

This incident is unusual in that it was 29 items at once, about 1/4 of the prims on the parcel.

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Llauren Mandelbrot

Twenty-Four Weeks Old.

Join date: 26 Apr 2006

Posts: 665

Odd Object Returns

07-14-2006 15:00

I occasionally have objects returned from places that I`m sure I`ve never even been to! Yes, I am specifically excluding self-mobile objects.

Esch Snoats

Artist, Head Minion

Join date: 2 May 2006

Posts: 261

07-14-2006 15:04

I have never had this problem till last night. I placed a railing on the edge of my property, it was said it was returned in my lost and found, which it was, but the railing was still showing on screen! I could move it around but not delete it or edit it. I right clicked on it and it said it was ownerless. It was a weird thing, never had this problem before this last update.

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DJSilgon Replacement

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Join date: 13 Jun 2006

Posts: 2

returned items

07-15-2006 17:42

yes i have been having the same issue mainly with teleporters that i hvae set in my house insaggittarius not sure what is going on everything was set to the land group and it still does it once every couple days very frustrating very annoying

Travis Bjornson

Registered User

Join date: 25 Sep 2005

Posts: 188

07-15-2006 18:44

I was in a private sandbox just the other day for about 10 minutes, when my build was auto-returned to me. The return time was set to 1440.

Shack Dougall

self become: Object new

Join date: 9 Aug 2004

Posts: 1,028

07-15-2006 23:07

From: Esch Snoats

I have never had this problem till last night. I placed a railing on the edge of my property, it was said it was returned in my lost and found, which it was, but the railing was still showing on screen! I could move it around but not delete it or edit it. I right clicked on it and it said it was ownerless. It was a weird thing, never had this problem before this last update.

I've seen this several times in the distant past. It happens when the object is deleted on the server, but the client doesn't get notified. Packet loss is probably a contributing factor. When it happens, a relog will make it go away.

But I also had something odd happen to me yesterday. I was on group land, but had my active group set incorrectly. Autoreturn was set for 5 minutes. There were about 1600 prims free, but when I rezzed a 600 prim object, it got returned to me before it could even be rendered.

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Caroline Apollo

Lo Lo

Join date: 23 Oct 2003

Posts: 288

07-16-2006 12:11

Happens to me in Miramare all of the time. I've had the SLEXchange ATM replaced so many times, I've finally given up. This has been ongoing since last year.

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Geoffrey Steinbeck

Registered User

Join date: 1 Oct 2005

Posts: 29

07-17-2006 05:55

Something's definitely changed. There are now quite a few posts in other forum areas about similar issues since the last update.

See:

/54/4f/121205/1.html
/142/6a/120826/1.html

A change in temp_on_rez policy is one theory.

Geoff.

Burtrum Forester

Registered User

Join date: 4 Jun 2006

Posts: 7

07-18-2006 09:39

And I thought it was just me. I was working on some things this weekend on group land as well, when out of the blue some prims began vanishing and I'd get return notices. I think it was late Saturday.

Burtrum

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

07-18-2006 10:19

I've had two buildings completely vanish from one sim that I built - didn't show up anywhere, as far as I can tell. And I was just told by a client that 2/3 of a vineyard that I built for her got returned to her for no apparent reason. She bought it months ago, it was owned by her, and on her property. She is not exceeding prim limits... Go figure...

Makes me glad I keep master backups of everything I build.

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Kyrah Rosewood

Carpe Noctem

Join date: 26 Feb 2006

Posts: 21

07-18-2006 12:05

I was working on a build in a sandbox and needed to relog. When I got back a minute later everything was supposively returned to me but was NOT in my lost and found folder like the messages claimed! The sandbox was not cleared either, just my stuff. I was very cranky about it cuz I didn't have copies yet, I didn't expect that to happen!! :\

Winter Ventura

Eclectic Randomness

Join date: 18 Jul 2006

Posts: 2,579

07-19-2006 15:15

I was working on a jetpack in the Plum sandbox (which allegedly has a 24-hour autoreturn), and I dropped it, unlinked it so I could edit some bits, and BAM like 30 objects came whizzing into my lost and found. The first time time this happened it took me nearly an hour to reassemble the pack. The second time, I made a backup, so I only had to find the prims I had recently changed, and get them installed on the backed-up jetpack.

returned objects for no reason
Aegif Goodliffe Registered User Join date: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5	07-14-2006 00:38 We had about 29 objects return to inventory for no apparent reason at SHINDA 245, 180, 27 (see gaping holes) Very unusual for this to happen. No objects were overhanging at all. Objects from multiple users - they were not returned by the land owner, who did not log on today at all. Neighbor reports returning a "tent" from his land earlier today, but doesn't match time of object return which was about 5:00 PM SLT/PST 7-13-06. Linden please take a look as this could be a very damaging issue to builds. thanks Aegif _____________________ http://www.studiosfo.com
Sinatra Cartier From Beta to Zeta! Join date: 8 Jan 2003 Posts: 533	07-14-2006 05:23 Aegif, you are not alone. I get objects returned about once every two weeks from my land where I have plenty of prims available and have "create objects" turned off until I am personally building on it. This has happened to me since beta (over three years) _____________________ ...and I think to myself, what a wonderful world. Sinatra's Spook House Ride: Noyo (100, 150, 25)
Doubledown Tandino ADULT on the Mainland! Join date: 9 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,020	07-14-2006 05:57 I lose one railing from my club about once every three weeks... I think my land is haunted with a ghost. _____________________ http://djdoubledown.blogspot.com
Geoffrey Steinbeck Registered User Join date: 1 Oct 2005 Posts: 29	07-14-2006 11:37 I have had numerous items returned to me for no reason since this latest upgrade. I don't know whether this issue's going to be noticed (by the Lindens) in this area of the forums though. Maybe in Tech Issues or Current Version Feedback..? I'm off to post there. Geoff.
Aegif Goodliffe Registered User Join date: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5	07-14-2006 14:09 Thanks for posting. This incident is unusual in that it was 29 items at once, about 1/4 of the prims on the parcel. _____________________ http://www.studiosfo.com
Llauren Mandelbrot Twenty-Four Weeks Old. Join date: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 665	Odd Object Returns 07-14-2006 15:00 I occasionally have objects returned from places that I`m sure I`ve never even been to! Yes, I am specifically excluding self-mobile objects.
Esch Snoats Artist, Head Minion Join date: 2 May 2006 Posts: 261	07-14-2006 15:04 I have never had this problem till last night. I placed a railing on the edge of my property, it was said it was returned in my lost and found, which it was, but the railing was still showing on screen! I could move it around but not delete it or edit it. I right clicked on it and it said it was ownerless. It was a weird thing, never had this problem before this last update. E
DJSilgon Replacement Registered User Join date: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 2	returned items 07-15-2006 17:42 yes i have been having the same issue mainly with teleporters that i hvae set in my house insaggittarius not sure what is going on everything was set to the land group and it still does it once every couple days very frustrating very annoying
Travis Bjornson Registered User Join date: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 188	07-15-2006 18:44 I was in a private sandbox just the other day for about 10 minutes, when my build was auto-returned to me. The return time was set to 1440.
Shack Dougall self become: Object new Join date: 9 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,028	07-15-2006 23:07 From: Esch Snoats I have never had this problem till last night. I placed a railing on the edge of my property, it was said it was returned in my lost and found, which it was, but the railing was still showing on screen! I could move it around but not delete it or edit it. I right clicked on it and it said it was ownerless. It was a weird thing, never had this problem before this last update. I've seen this several times in the distant past. It happens when the object is deleted on the server, but the client doesn't get notified. Packet loss is probably a contributing factor. When it happens, a relog will make it go away. But I also had something odd happen to me yesterday. I was on group land, but had my active group set incorrectly. Autoreturn was set for 5 minutes. There were about 1600 prims free, but when I rezzed a 600 prim object, it got returned to me before it could even be rendered. _____________________ Prim Composer for 3dsMax -- complete offline builder for prims and sculpties in 3ds Max http://liferain.com/downloads/primcomposer/ Hierarchical Prim Archive (HPA) -- HPA is is a fully-documented, platform-independent specification for storing and transferring builds between Second Life-compatible platforms and tools. https://liferain.com/projects/hpa
Caroline Apollo Lo Lo Join date: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 288	07-16-2006 12:11 Happens to me in Miramare all of the time. I've had the SLEXchange ATM replaced so many times, I've finally given up. This has been ongoing since last year. _____________________ Caroline's Jewelry and Lo Lo's accessories together in one shop SL Exchange blog
Geoffrey Steinbeck Registered User Join date: 1 Oct 2005 Posts: 29	07-17-2006 05:55 Something's definitely changed. There are now quite a few posts in other forum areas about similar issues since the last update. See: /54/4f/121205/1.html /142/6a/120826/1.html A change in temp_on_rez policy is one theory. Geoff.
Burtrum Forester Registered User Join date: 4 Jun 2006 Posts: 7	07-18-2006 09:39 And I thought it was just me. I was working on some things this weekend on group land as well, when out of the blue some prims began vanishing and I'd get return notices. I think it was late Saturday. Burtrum
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	07-18-2006 10:19 I've had two buildings completely vanish from one sim that I built - didn't show up anywhere, as far as I can tell. And I was just told by a client that 2/3 of a vineyard that I built for her got returned to her for no apparent reason. She bought it months ago, it was owned by her, and on her property. She is not exceeding prim limits... Go figure... Makes me glad I keep master backups of everything I build. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Kyrah Rosewood Carpe Noctem Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 21	07-18-2006 12:05 I was working on a build in a sandbox and needed to relog. When I got back a minute later everything was supposively returned to me but was NOT in my lost and found folder like the messages claimed! The sandbox was not cleared either, just my stuff. I was very cranky about it cuz I didn't have copies yet, I didn't expect that to happen!! :\
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	07-19-2006 15:15 I was working on a jetpack in the Plum sandbox (which allegedly has a 24-hour autoreturn), and I dropped it, unlinked it so I could edit some bits, and BAM like 30 objects came whizzing into my lost and found. The first time time this happened it took me nearly an hour to reassemble the pack. The second time, I made a backup, so I only had to find the prims I had recently changed, and get them installed on the backed-up jetpack.

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