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Oversize prim?

Prospero Frobozz
Astronerd
Join date: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 164
01-02-2007 13:49
Is there anyway I can somehow get dispensation to have a handful of legal oversized prims?

I fully understand why it's reasonable to have a prim size limit. It doens't take a lot of imagination to come up with potential for abuse if you can have really big prims, and one thing you have to give griefers credit for is imagination.

However, I do have a "legitimate" reason. I'm trying to build a planetarium. The first version will be small, limited by the 10m prim-size limit. (The actual star globe will be about 9m in diameter.) This is great for one or two people, but too small for five or 10 people. (Then again, animation speeds may mean that you never want more than 1 or 2 in it at a time anyway!)

In principle, I could build it by approximating a sphere with several other prims in a (say) icosahedron. However, getting the texture mapping right then will be *much* harder than if I have just a simple sphere. Everything is a lot simpler if I can just map all the graphics I want to show on to a sphere.

So... is there any way one can get dispensation for oversized prims?

-Rob
Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 649
01-02-2007 14:00
Nope last I heard the offical word is "use at your own risk" and "if on mainland will be removed". They have negative impact on not only the LL social structure (people get ticked via abuse) there has been hinting of possible grid issues as well in areas that these prims are used.
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Foo Spark
alias Bathsheba Dorn
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 110
01-02-2007 14:29
From: Krazzora Zaftig
Nope last I heard the offical word is "use at your own risk" and "if on mainland will be removed". They have negative impact on not only the LL social structure (people get ticked via abuse) there has been hinting of possible grid issues as well in areas that these prims are used.

As I heard it, there is no commitment to support large prims in the indefinite future, but there's also no immediate plan to break or expunge existing ones. It's my understanding that Lindens do not remove oversized prims that are not otherwise violating TOS (e.g. being used to encroach, being temp-on-rezzed excessively etc.) I have not heard of any lag issues caused by using them normally. I have heard of an issue caused by using them overlapping sim borders, so I wouldn't use one that way.

Last I checked, a free pack of "huge prims" is available on SLExchange. A few weeks before Christmas I picked up the same set as a freebie at Caledon. I believe the prims in that set are the only oversized prims available in game, except maybe a few kept around by very old players. Although they are full-perm, their sizes can't be modified and they don't behave normally when hollowed, so they're not useful for all purposes.

For my part, I feel comfortable using a couple of 20 x 20's for a dock and a skybox. I don't see that they cause any issues. If they ever stop working, I'll use a few extra 10 x 10's to replace them: big deal.

But because of the hollowing behavior I think you might have to look elsewhere for your planetarium solution.
Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 649
01-03-2007 06:59
Well Foo I was keeping my opinion out of it and just posting what pretty much it felt like LL has been sayin gbetween the town hall and the public advertising of such items via SLechange, Slboutique, and examples in various publications. As a designer I won't use them till they are deemed ok unless it is for a private build. The last thing I need is to sell 500 of something or more and have them all poof or something. >_< Otherwise then that yeah knock yourself out, have fun.
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Prospero Frobozz
Astronerd
Join date: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 164
01-03-2007 11:04
Hmm. What I was thinking was a scaled up version of something smaller, so it would be relatively low-risk. If the big prim goes away... well, I've still got the functional smaller version.

I suppose if I were smarter long term, I'd think about whether I could figure out a good way to do this with multiple prims. Challenging, though!

In the short term, I'm just gonna continue working on my 9m diameter version.

-Rob
Darien Caldwell
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,127
01-03-2007 12:40
It's at this time permissible to use oversized prims as long as you don't create a problem for other residents. see this thread for a link to free oversized prims on SLExchange:

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Foo Spark
alias Bathsheba Dorn
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 110
01-03-2007 22:44
From: Krazzora Zaftig
Well Foo I was keeping my opinion out of it and just posting what pretty much it felt like LL has been sayin gbetween the town hall and the public advertising of such items via SLechange, Slboutique, and examples in various publications. As a designer I won't use them till they are deemed ok unless it is for a private build. The last thing I need is to sell 500 of something or more and have them all poof or something. >_<


I'm with you there -- I wouldn't use them in a product or even a freebie. Doing customer service is bad enough without having to explain that gosh, it's not my fault, the feature was deprecated. :rolleyes:
Archangel Mountain
Short Fat Bald Guy
Join date: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 18
01-04-2007 00:01
I use oversized prims extensively, and I have spoken with the lindens perhaps 20 times on the issue. While the exact drift may vary from linden to lenden the upshot is that they are ok to use as long as they remain on your own property. Some lindens are more freindly about this than others, but thats basically it.

I use a lot of them. My builds have been examined by lindens. The only drawback I see is that some of the large prims have a few goofy side effects that you have to work around. Sometimes they drift a bit, and very large ones touching the ground have an od problem of not being able to rez things on top of them. (They fall through the prim like it isn't there), I've also experienced a few rotation problems at times as well.

But for the record, they are not illegal, and are tolorated unless misused. As I was told by one linden, replacing fifty prims with one, goes a long way toward easing server loads.
Kepster Cure
Paradigm Shifter
Join date: 7 Jan 2006
Posts: 198
01-09-2007 13:50
Ditto... Three cheers for Oversize Prims!!!
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