New to Sculpties -- please explain the cause of this...

well poo.. get windows

Iunno of an uploader for macs =/

The latest release candidate supports lossless uploads.

http://secondlife.com/community/downloads-optional.php

OH YEAH! forgot lol

Does the newest windlight client support lossless?

I'm a bit confused. Why do I want this? I thought the current viewer has the lossless upload box check option. Haven't we accepted that the crumple on the test shape is not due to faulty upload, but close proximity of vertices? Or is that not settled?

I am also on the mac and have been using the lossless upload on the Release Candidate viewer. My sculpties are overall somewhat smoother although I still get puckering at the poles. I don't know if lossless upload on the main viewer is working but you could try the main viewer and the RC and compare.

Two suggestions:

Plan where your poles will be carefully and hide them if you can if you are linking several prims together.

Texturing can disguise or minimize the puckering at the poles.

it has the option but it doesnt work. Even with the 8 bit errors there should be SOME difference.. try it and see

Sky, if you are using Wings and you want to see whether the rounding to 8 bits is the cause of your concern, just import the bitmap back into Wings. (Exporting to the bitmap requires the vertices to be adjusted to one of 256 values, but importing is extremely precise.) When comparing what you see in Wings to what you see in SL, pay attention only to where the vertices are located. SL does shading differently than Wings, so the surfaces will look slightly different even if the vertices are in identical positions.

Thanks. I checked that out as you advised. The imported bitmap shows some deformations, but maybe not quite to the degree observed inworld. All of this discussion is giving me lots of material to keep in mind while I run the next round of tests. It helps me learn about sculpty limitations, and how to predict in advance whether a shape will translate.

Everyone, please keep the thoughts flowing, if you think of anything else. I'll report back when I have more results, and thanks a lot for your help so far.

I learned about lossless upload in an NCI class today. Is it still true that lossless upload is not possible for Mac users? I had hoped that little factoid was out of date by now... I'm less than a month old and don't know when/if that changed.

In the client 1.19.1, I see a "Use lossless compression" checkbox in the Upload dialog box.

If there are warnings, tips, whatever, about lossless uploading from a Mac, I would love to know... even a link to a page about it would be great.

Hello?

Is it possible to upload lossless using a Mac?

Wow..old thread is old.. anywho, I'm Okiphia Rayna from above, that you quoted..though I still may not be able to answer properly, since I don't use a mac.


The lossless uploading in the client now works properly. At the time I wrote the other stuff, it was still borked, and did not actually work as it should. Now however, it works fine. If that option is available to you, it should work fine, but I can't guarantee it. I don't know the difference on mac's.

Sorry to hijack the thread for a second, but it'll be a quick second; I promise.

I was wondering what had happened to Okiphia. She just up and disappeared one day. Glad to know you're still around.

^_^ yeah while I was gone (3 months away by the way, came back march 16, this av's rez date) there was a thread in RA about me, and when I came back posted in that and a new thread, since people had apparently worried =/

Anyway, back to the topic at hand!

Hope what's been said helps, Welleran (lol, that's all I can say)

I wish it worked for me, the difference between SLImageUpload and SL's upload is still quite remarkable.

Okay, please don't hit me for asking a silly question. But you do know about the lossless option in the image preview panel that appears after you select Upload Image from the file menu?.

/me cowers

It has turned out that the Linden implementation of lossless compression uncovered many different lurking bugs. (See https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2404 for the history.) If you haven't downloaded the current release candiate (1.20 RC2), you should try it. There's some hope that this finally nails it.

I am using the latest RC and I still see a huge difference between SLImageUpload and SL's upload, also the rendering times themselves are remarkable between the two - SLImageUpload being at least twice as fast. Maybe its just me, but I dont know what I am doing so differently that mine is the way it is. Thanks for the link.


Sl's upload on left, SLImageupload on right. The one and only thing SL's upload does correctly by comparison is not shift the centering, I have no idea why SLImageupload does this but its driving me completely nuts.

Thank you for all your comments and replies. I do try the RC clients now & then, and will compare....

My understanding is that SLImageupload is not available for Mac OSX users, but if I'm mistaken about that, too, please, do let me know.

As far as I know that is still true. There wasn't one last time I checked, which is poo.


And I haven't compared the two side-by-side, thank you for that! Now I know why my newest trees don't QUITE work right.

I didn't get to it today, but I'm going to release a new version of SLImageUpload tomorrow. It should (in theory) work on OSX if you have X11 and Mono installed (there will be instructions), and the upload timeout problem should be gone now. If the off-centered bug or any other image corruption still persists after tomorrow's release please file a bug at http://bug.openmv.org/

Thanks very much. I appreciate your taking the time to reply.

I don't worry about how old a thread is, btw. If it's still here, and it's unlocked, then it's here to be used, IMHO. I'd rather keep relevant stuff in one thread, than start another -- that makes the thread more useful for future folks who come searching the forums. That's how I found this thread.

That's awesome! I'll test that, happily and gratefully.

It's out! http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?p=1979477