Security - CUBE ?

LOL. Won't argue with any of that. The other things I've learned though are: 1.) if you try to argue people out of this natural progression, it usually doesn't turn out that well; 2.) if you try to criticize people for the progression, they resent you; 3.) if you simply use it as a source of interesting projects, because lots of this stuff can be fun, both you and they tend to get a lot of enjoyment out of SL.

I never meant to say the reasonableness, feasibility, and actual benefit of these systems shouldn't be discussed. I just try not to tell people they shouldn't do this kind of thing because it is pointless. Just doesn't tend to go over well, and might cripple some interesting solutions before they get out of the gate as well.

People don't seem interested in my solution.

Dummy poseballs that orbit you when you try to use them.

Scatter them around your bedroom, they'll only kick out people who really do deserve to get kicked.

LOL. "Whatever you do, DON'T sit on the leopard print furniture."

Wow, seems like the 3rd world war has ben going on (re my original question) whils tI was away

Ok, lets clear a few things up (from my point of view and experiences)

1: Yes, or course I understand (apart from a private Isle that only the Lindens (I assume) can spy on you're not going to get security

2: You can cam into anywhere and see Avatars having sex and perhaps even catch some voice chat if you're lucky! (and are into such passtimes)

3: There are many Noobs around (and others not in world much) that have no idea what we are talking about, and just a locked door is enough to make them move on (and I have had this myself when watching a day onl noob nosing round my place, trying all the doors, finding them locked and then flying away)

4: I have spoken to a number of ladies who have totally freaked out when they come back to their nive femanine home all personally decorated and find some guy sitting there in ther lounge or a couple using their bed (both of which I've had close friend tell me about)

To be honest, even though I know it's stupid, just the other day I was in my SL home fiddling with my TV (trying to get the YouTube working) and I heard footsteps around and (like in a RL home) felt like there maybe someone else in one of my room and had to cam about to find where. (luckily it was a local lady and we are friends now, but that's beside the point)

However weird and pointless it might appear to some here, it is a good feeling to know that anyone (non tech person who can get roun dmost things) can just wonder into your house at anytime when you are there.

Re the throwing people off boats, off planes and such like. Yes, fully agree that's a pain and the makers of these devices should make some device (Temp prom / particle based?) that shows in world the extent of the actual coverage as most have no idea.

Buy an orb put it somewhere and click on 50m as that sounds a good number!

In the past I've used a Sphere Megaprim with transparancy and chosen a size and position to get a tight coverage without going into water etc etc.
(Done that for others also - Normally ladies who need help)


But this time I've gone 1 better (hence my original question) thanks to the ability of the latest devices to define a square type zone. I have got the detetion zone right smack up against all the outer walls of my house and only up to the roof, so they can literally walk up to a wall, or land on the roof, but 1m onto my porch or dropping down to my Veranda and they kick in a 30 second warning politly asking them to leave the area.

Which (despite what us tech heads think here) is normally enough to make the general population move onto somewhere else.

Yes, I know it's silly and it's not real, but hey neither is a SL kitchen, but I still have one of those (and made my own dishwasher and washing machine)

Many here must remember that people on these forums are not the NORMAL people of the SL world. I'd guess the vast majority have never made anything apart from a funny shaped cube. Never heard ot highlight transparant or beacons or any of this stuff we fiddle with.

If I can stop a Noob from sitting in my lounge when I log on by a "tight around the house" detection zone, then I'm happy.

I'll tell you what would stop a lot of snooping (and snoopers would HATE it) that's if Lindens made your floating name follow your Camera position around as well as your avatar position, then you would see snoopers names flying through your bedroom!

I suppose it depends on how REAL you view the world. and (as I said earlier) I think many women take it more REAL than many guys and are horrified the their locked door does not stop everyone.

I love the idea of BoobyTrap poseballs if anyone has any

One suggestion I made that orb makers haven't taken up, is for the orb to only enforce the ban when there were people on the orb's approval list actually present.

So by the time the user's house had rezzed, the intruders would have been ejected, and it wouldn't impact people who were just flying by.

Speaking as someone eho has made and is currently selling vehicles, I can say with pretty much absolute certainty that there is no way whatsoever that you can do this because the updates from your HUD prims are competing with the updates from everything else in world... and the very time you most need it, when you're suffering from lag, your HUD is not going to be able to update anyway!
I used to have some but Havok 4 broke the scheme I was using to orbit people and I haven't gotten around to rewriting them.

Thanks for the reply.

You misunderstood 1 point I made (I think I didn't explain myself very well)

when I said about "Seeing" the range of security. I only meant for a "setting it up option.

Like in the menu for the orb, you click "SHOWRANGE" and it puts out some temp particles or even some temp prims (just some markers) that show you where the edge of the zone is.

When you click the menu to carry on the particles stop/prims de-rezzed

In the same way that handy parcel boundary wall thing works when you doing a sky box.

that's my only thought

Re your idea. How about also only working when you are online?

All interesting stuff

I still want a "Don't Push This Button" device though

ok, so the word 'directly' should have been in there... (I only included the caveat for the benefit of petitioners that don't know better than to ask for things like sim crashers and such... here)

'Do nothing' has been my policy on my own privacy more or less since I started in SL, having quickly discovered the advantages of good camera control regardless of ban lines, security orbs or whatever. There really is no point. As far as I'm concerned, it's the other party's problem if he or she should stumble upon my pixellated ass while I'm up to no good. I only hope they don't lose their breakfast in the process.

A recent walk around a very pretty alpine sim was ruined by the overly enthusiastic security orbs that chucked me down the mountainside on three separate occasions. The funny thing was that I was the only avatar in the region and I don't recall getting particularly close to any of the chalets. They wouldn't treat you that way in Klosters or Davos, for heaven's sake.

Sky boxes seem counter-productive to the basic principles of SL: so coy and prudish, my skin crawls thinking about them, and I've always detested the way they litter the skies.

As for poseballs: they're so damned prim-heavy and ugly that I'm amazed so many residents still use them. We have Miffy Fluffy's XPOSE and MLP systems and Lear Cale's excellent MLPV2, all of which are free (XPOSE is free for private use, more or less).

These devices are simple to set up, Piggie, so I guess you should make a note to get the hang of one of them soon if you haven't done so already. All of them can be set exclusively for owner or group to prevent your home from becoming a casual brothel - and of course they can be used for many purposes other than making out.

I recommend Lear's MLPV2 because he is constantly developing and updating his product and he also keeps a regular thread going on the Scripting Tips forum about it.

One of the more useful applications of security systems is not for privacy but to create a more comfortable environment for the legitimate inhabitants and visitors. Yes, someone could always hang around outside and shout, or send IMs, or generate particle SPAM, or whatever, but you get a LITTLE bit of a cleaner environment if you can keep them from running around your peaceful little get-together with a big penis hanging out of their pants or something. It's not foolproof, but it's a nice help.

In other words, they are free to cam into your protected room and subject themselves to you, but there's nothing that says you have to cam out of your room and subject yourself even more to them.

Ephraim Kappler roars laughing.

Since you put it that way ...