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Void Singer
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02-04-2010 22:21
From: Ee Maculate
Must admit losing Scripting Tips (and in particular pearls of wisdom from Void) is going to be a huge loss when the forums go (I can't guarantee I'm moving over to SLA in its current form).

hell, my "wisdom" is nothing... we're losing several professional code monkeys, and even more bootstrapped coders than I want to think about... that's sad to me. me, I only get it about 2/3 of the time, and 1/4 of that contains basic errors. not much better than 50/50... but I'm here A LOT =)

I'll continue on for a little bit, trying to get what's wrong fixed... but it'd be pointless to stay if it didn't shape up in a hurry, so I don't blame anyone for not switching over...

From: someone
Can I just say thank you to everyone who's contributed here over the years... it's been a pleasure working with you.

you can, I agree, and for my the pleasure has certainly been mine (despite heated arguments with various folks)
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Talarus Luan
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Join date: 18 Mar 2006
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02-04-2010 23:02
From: Void Singer
is dubious wrong? I was trying to squeeze a WHY out ;)
to be far Cerise got it (I keep spelling that name wrong too =(
(sorry Cerise)


Well, dubious as in "extraneous" is how I read it, since she kinda explained why right after that point about PI. Probably not the most enlightened explanation, but I got that she understood why from it. :)

From: someone
not as well as I expected, but still miles ahead of SLA.

part of that I think is due to some people here avoiding it because they thought it was just just for the purpose of showing newer people some simple errors that crop up. or maybe they ignored it because it was ME that posted it... I dunno.


Well, to be a proper test, it would have to have been done on an alt. I didn't participate for several reasons: 1) I thought it was some kind of contest-like thing, to draw other people in who didn't normally participate, 2) I have been piecing back together a webserver with a number of websites on it that asploded last weekend, so not gotten much time for sleep or anything else since, and 3) I am sorta weaning myself off posting in here, to curb the shock of going cold turkey next Tuesday.

From: someone
it also points out what LL is losing as far as brain drain.... and why one big conglomerate SLA versus sub forums makes it infinitely harder to direct those talents where they are most useful...


Meh.. there will be new folks to pick up the slack who will cut their teeth on that platform, and it won't bother them all that much. If not, well, the Lindens asked for it. I'm probably going to just continue helping people 1 on 1, though I may start teaching some classes for our Citizens at the Isle, or at my place. I dunno just yet. I've got a lot on my mind right now; too much to make any real firm plans for anything.

From: someone
SLA is a corporate level communication tool, questions like this wouldn't even occur in that environment because all the coders would be in one place, or at the very worst you'd direct these sort of question to that department.... you don't have that in a random pool of talented users... where different users may not only have different talent sets, but may also duplicate talents in different areas, but not all. these are key facts that I think LL is missing out on.


LL is missing out on a LOT of things, not just those. In a way, as a systems designer, I like the concept of SLA. I just think the whole implementation and management of it is utter crap.

From: someone
the question isn't whether people will use it, it's whether people will just give it up for one the many fractured off site solutions that do all these things already... ease of communication is just as important.


*shrug* People will herd to where the grazing is good.

From: someone
not that I think you don't already know all this and more... I just needed to rant about it a bit.


Yeah, I know.. misery loves company. :-/ Rant away; I've got four big shoulders for people to cry on; no waiting.
Cerise Sorbet
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02-05-2010 00:09
picky picky picky picky but I had a learning toy in reserve! on google cache because the wiki is sleeping.
Void Singer
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02-05-2010 01:21
From: Talarus Luan
Well, to be a proper test, it would have to have been done on an alt. I didn't participate for several reasons: 1) I thought it was some kind of contest-like thing, to draw other people in who didn't normally participate, 2) I have been piecing back together a webserver with a number of websites on it that asploded last weekend, so not gotten much time for sleep or anything else since, and 3) I am sorta weaning myself off posting in here, to curb the shock of going cold turkey next Tuesday.

understood.. I decided to do the test as me for documentation purposes... I wanted to attach what little weight my name and history carries with and link it to the exact account that's making the noise... cuts down on stupid things like claims of sock puppetry, etc...

From: someone
Meh.. there will be new folks to pick up the slack who will cut their teeth on that platform, and it won't bother them all that much. If not, well, the Lindens asked for it.

agreed, but for how long, and at what cost in the meantime... it's natural for users to look for the closest source of help, which drives the initial numbers to an SL site. if the SL site is too difficult to navigate and use for the querents or the helpers, they scatter to other sites or just give up... this hurts SL as a whole. I know, preaching to the choir...

From: someone
LL is missing out on a LOT of things, not just those. In a way, as a systems designer, I like the concept of SLA. I just think the whole implementation and management of it is utter crap.

seconded

From: someone
*shrug* People will herd to where the grazing is good.

sadly, the grazing isn't gonna be good anywhere at this rate =/

@Cerise:
it was only a matter of completeness, and I accidently targeted a comment on meant for you on SLA (which is also why I screwed up here about the memory overflow, someone took out the list capping there)

window flipping is a bitch =/
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Twisted Pharaoh
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02-05-2010 01:41
Well the thing is a newbie looks at the Help menu in the viewer and goes to whatever is mentioned. Veterans scripters know where to look for information. Scripting tips was the most reactive and convenient forum but we do have fall backs (such as groups, sandboxes, other forums, people we already know and so on). Wikis (specially the unofficial one) answer at least 80% of my questions without the need for me to ask anywhere.

If it was granted that we get a decent Content Creation forum, then we could ask the Emerald team to add a link to that forum. I don't know them so I have no clue how they would react to such query but that could be a possibility.
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