I suppose this is SL-related because I am creating a group and am stuck in this global political English spelling dilemma while creating a title for my subscribers:
"traveler", or "traveller"?
The spelling dictionary doesn't seem to mind either spelling. Please help me globalize and be one with the new century.
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Court Goodman
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12-09-2007 08:14
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Denise Bonetto
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12-09-2007 08:19
I only know it spelt traveller, but I am English and the other could be the American spelling.
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Lee Ponzu
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12-09-2007 08:20
I am not sure there is a "global" English. Some dialects spell it one way, and some the other.
If you really care, I suggest this practical approach. Google for each, in context. If one spelling shows up more of the type of page that you want to appeal to, use that. _____________________
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Gaybot Blessed
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12-09-2007 08:20
Well, when I use Firefox, it underlines misspelled words for me in red. It is telling me that traveler is spelled right, and it is underlining traveller.
However, check out this site... http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/us/ _____________________
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Hiro Queso
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12-09-2007 08:23
Well, when I use Firefox, it underlines misspelled words for me in red. It is telling me that traveler is spelled right, and it is underlining traveller. However, check out this site... http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/us/ I assume traveler must be the American spelling then? As someone above noted, only traveller is correct in British English. |
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Gaybot Blessed
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12-09-2007 08:26
I assume traveler must be the American spelling then? As someone above noted, only traveller is correct in British English. Yes...I think. This is what dictionary.com had to say...  _____________________
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Isabeau Imako
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12-09-2007 08:28
Do what Canadians do. Keep getting mixed up, and spell using both the English way and the American way, in the same paragraph.
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Denise Bonetto
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12-09-2007 08:29
Cambridge Dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=84577&dict=CALD travel Show phonetics verb -ll- or US USUALLY -l- 1 [I or T] to make a journey, usually over a long distance: After leaving school, she spent a year travelling, mostly in Africa and Asia. I travel to work by train. He travelled over 100 miles to be at the wedding. As a young man he had travelled (= been to many parts of) the world. 2 to move or go from one place to another: Supersonic planes can travel faster than the speed of sound. 3 If something such as food travels well/badly, it does/does not stay in good condition if it is moved long distances: They say that real Yorkshire beers don't travel well. 4 INFORMAL really travel to move very fast: We were doing 90mph, so that other car that passed us must have been really travelling! That bike can really travel! travel Show phonetics noun the activity of travelling: air/space travel business travel We share a love of literature, food and travel. I heard on the travel news that there'd been an accident. travelled, US USUALLY traveled Show phonetics adjective 1 well-/much-/little-travelled describes a journey or route that many/few people travel on 2 well-/widely-travelled describes people who have visited many countries: They're a well-travelled couple. traveller, US USUALLY traveler Show phonetics noun [C] 1 someone who travels: This hotel is for serious travellers, rather than tourists on two-week package holidays. 2 UK a New Age traveller or gypsy travelling, US USUALLY traveling Show phonetics noun I love the work but I hate the travelling that's involved. travelling, US USUALLY traveling Show phonetics adjective [before noun] a travelling opera company/circus travels Show phonetics plural noun journeys: a record of her travels in/around the Far East So traveler is the American version of spelling. _____________________
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Nimue Jewell
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12-09-2007 08:30
Looked it up in the OED online. Looks like the spelling with one "l" is more typically American as many of you already knew.
"Forms: 4 travaillour, 4-6 travellour, -eiler, etc. (see TRAVEL v.); 6- traveller, 9- (chiefly U.S.) traveler. " Otherwise, it treats both of your spellings equally. |
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dagnabit Nadir
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heres how to handle it
12-09-2007 08:38
create two roles in the group each spelled different.
and add eveyone to both roles let them chose the spelling they want |
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Alicia Sautereau
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12-09-2007 08:41
create two roles in the group each spelled different. and add eveyone to both roles let them chose the spelling they want LOL _____________________
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Conifer Dada
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12-09-2007 10:43
Traveller = British
Traveler = American I discovered a tricky one the other day that could cause trouble if misunderstood: Momentary means 'for a brief time' in Britain - e.g. "he suffered a momentary lapse of concentration", but the meaning is different in America, more like like 'at the moment'. Perhaps someone could clarify! |
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Alyx Sands
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12-09-2007 10:51
Dang, too late.
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Oryx Tempel
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12-09-2007 10:51
The one that drives me batty is "aluminum" (American) and "aluminium" (British.)
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Calveen Kline
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12-09-2007 10:55
The correct spelling is Traveller. There is no Traveler, since that would change the pronunciation of the word to TRAH-VEE-LEHR. The double L is there for a reason, it forces a strong E before it. It shows in the dictionary because, somehow, we have become used to legitimizing colloquialisms such as Ain't and 'Cuz.
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Har Fairweather
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12-09-2007 11:40
To the OP: Use another word. But not aluminum/aluminium.
To Conifer: Momentary has pretty much the same meaning in the US, i.e. "for a brief time." Sometimes we in The Colonies use the adverb "momentarily" to say, for example, "I will be there momentarily," meaning very quickly or immediately, but I think everyone would aqree that is an informal or colloquial usage. You probably just encountered somebody with bad Amerenglish. |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-09-2007 12:03
Do what Canadians do. Keep getting mixed up, and spell using both the English way and the American way, in the same paragraph. I resemble that remark god I have soooo done that LOL especially with color and colour and neighbor and neighbour blahhhh _____________________
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Alyx Sands
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12-09-2007 15:22
I am actually TEACHING that kind of thing....my job is haunting me.....
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Weston Graves
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12-09-2007 15:29
To confuse the issue further, there was a role playing game here in the states and perhaps elsewhere released in the early 80's called Traveller with two "L's." When I see it spelled that way I think of this early space combat RPG.
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Daisy Rimbaud
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12-09-2007 16:06
I discovered a tricky one the other day that could cause trouble if misunderstood: Momentary means 'for a brief time' in Britain - e.g. "he suffered a momentary lapse of concentration", but the meaning is different in America, more like like 'at the moment'. Perhaps someone could clarify! Not sure that that is an Atlantic distinction or just people getting it wrong. Similarly, "momentarily" means "for a moment" not "in a moment", and "disinterested" does not mean the same thing as "uninterested". |
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Sunspot Pixie
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12-10-2007 04:33
The correct spelling is Traveller. There is no Traveler, since that would change the pronunciation of the word to TRAH-VEE-LEHR. The double L is there for a reason, it forces a strong E before it. It shows in the dictionary because, somehow, we have become used to legitimizing colloquialisms such as Ain't and 'Cuz. So shoveler is pronounced SHO-VEE-LEHR?  As far as the US/British stuff, I went to school half in Canada and half in the US, so I am forever deciding that I will use either or, but I always end up somewhere in between. I drove my English teachers crazy. _____________________
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Amaranthim Talon
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12-10-2007 07:15
Never been out of the States since getting here at age 6 - I have problems with neighbor and neighbour and grey and gray...
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-10-2007 07:31
To the OP: Use another word. But not aluminum/aluminium.  Ancient Collins English Dictionary here and all derivatives of travel add another 'l' _____________________
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Alyx Sands
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12-10-2007 07:34
You SO do not want to get me started on historical linguistics and why spelling and pronunciation differ, and....all that. Historical English linguistics is one of my specialties....
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12-10-2007 07:57
...what are those nice men in the white coats doing in my room, anyway? *runs away* Actually I was wondering if you knew Kelly's bra size? _____________________
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