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Faithless Babii
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06-07-2008 14:22
Ive just logged into our sim and my partner is getting this message alllll the time

[14:15] Unable to create item that has caused problems on this region

Its a blue pop up type message bottom right hand corner...doesnt say which object, and hes detached all his stuff to see if its anything he is wearing...still happening, anyone got any ideas what this might be?
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Nimue Jewell
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06-07-2008 19:40
Do you have anything that temp rezzes something on your land? An object like that would try to create objects over and over again causing the repeating messages.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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06-07-2008 19:42
Seems to be a bug with the latest server, and yes it's a pain to track down what is really wrong because it doesn't tell you what has supposedly caused problems.

one of the JIRA entries on this: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1249
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06-07-2008 20:02
Is this the new gray goo fence message?
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06-07-2008 20:06
From: Sindy Tsure
Is this the new gray goo fence message?

Apparently, but some other errors actually mentioning goo have been popping up too.
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06-07-2008 20:21
I must have gotten 10-15 "You cannot rez an object on a parcel you are not allowed in" (or something to that effect) messages today. Yet it was my land, and I was standing right in the middle of it.

The new server code has..... Issues :(

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Day Oh
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06-07-2008 20:21
Surely not another new behavior they forgot to tell us about...
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Sue Saintlouis
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06-07-2008 20:32
On one of my lands, and only on this one, I have to open build to build. All my lands are group-owned, most of them in the same group.... go figure!

As for the message "Unable to create item that has caused problems on this region", I've been getting this when trying to wear something (not creating at all)... again, go figure!
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Faithless Babii
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06-08-2008 02:28
yes!!! to all the above!!! God its been HELL...flooded with messages about im not allowed on MY land, objects that are causing problems..and YES..temp rezzing palm trees are an issue whereas they were not before!! EVEN teleporters that rez a beam...cant use them or you get flooded with messages

jeez..its not been a good 24 hours lol

thanks for the replies...i thought it was just me :(
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Toxic Menges
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06-08-2008 03:04
We had this issue on our sim yesterday, for a while I was getting a set of co-ordinates with it, so was able to track it to a particle rock, which i then reset to a group that the land was set to (but but the permissions did not require items to be set to group).

This fixed my problem. Another resident was then getting the more ambiguous message, and I suggested they look at particle rezzers, and deleting some that had stray particles wandering off our sim boundary fixed the issue.

So to sum this up.. check that any particles you had aren't straying, and failing that check that items match the group that the land is associated with.

I also couldn't rez on my sim for a spell yesteday, but that cleared itself up on it's own.
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Phil Deakins
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06-08-2008 03:31
I created a jira on this problem. Two days ago I had just one object causing the message every 2 minutes - the "you are not allowed on the parcel" message. The next time I logged in, it was a different object that caused the message, and the other stopped causing it. The solution is to make sure that all objects are set to the group that owns the land. Doing that fixed it for me.
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Day Oh
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06-08-2008 03:32
I'd like to figure this out because this pattern bothers me. I tried a particle emitter that rezzes things off the edge of the region and into a banned parcel but couldn't get anything new to happen.

I know this might sound goofy, but if you can reproduce this reliably, I'd say put in a JIRA issue saying this doesn't match any expected or documented behavior. I mean, maybe the new behavior is something helpful, but I don't see anybody understanding what it is, only puzzling over why they're being flooded with it.

Edit: Good going Phil ^^
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Ciaran Laval
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06-08-2008 04:13
Been getting these messages too when I create objects, but it normally works second time, I also moved an object from one parcel to another and it autoreturned even though both parcels and objects were set to the same group.
Faithless Babii
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06-08-2008 04:55
From: Phil Deakins
I created a jira on this problem. Two days ago I had just one object causing the message every 2 minutes - the "you are not allowed on the parcel" message. The next time I logged in, it was a different object that caused the message, and the other stopped causing it. The solution is to make sure that all objects are set to the group that owns the land. Doing that fixed it for me.

that did work for a couple of items yay :) my partner still seems to be getting the vague ones with no co-ordinates though...looks like its going to be a longggg day of searching through everything we have out on the whole sim lol.

I wonder why now this happens and not before?

thanks everyone for your replies :))
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06-08-2008 06:51
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06-08-2008 09:16
From: Faithless Babii
I wonder why now this happens and not before?
It's the new server code they rolled out the other day.
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06-08-2008 09:56
From: Phil Deakins
I created a jira on this problem. Two days ago I had just one object causing the message every 2 minutes - the "you are not allowed on the parcel" message. The next time I logged in, it was a different object that caused the message, and the other stopped causing it. The solution is to make sure that all objects are set to the group that owns the land. Doing that fixed it for me.


This is driving me crazy:
[9:52] Can't rez object '~ball' at { 187.5, 148.969, 25.7775 } on parcel 'Devolin Paradise Resort, Devolin Mal, by Avion Raymaker' in region Devolin Mal because you are not allowed on the parcel.

It's just a pirate ship with cannon balls. The cannons are all set to group. Any other suggestions on how to stop the message every 2 minutes?

And what is the color code for text being light blue?
Faithless Babii
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06-08-2008 10:32
From: Avion Raymaker
This is driving me crazy:
[9:52] Can't rez object '~ball' at { 187.5, 148.969, 25.7775 } on parcel 'Devolin Paradise Resort, Devolin Mal, by Avion Raymaker' in region Devolin Mal because you are not allowed on the parcel.

It's just a pirate ship with cannon balls. The cannons are all set to group. Any other suggestions on how to stop the message every 2 minutes?

And what is the color code for text being light blue?


Avion a sim restart seemed to clear those messages...and we also did the check to make sure everything is set to the right group...last night was horrendous with all the messages but almost amusing if we hadnt have been so sleepy ! With two of us setting up things around and about we made a few faux pas with which group stuff was set too, the new server code highlighted it...lesson learnt ;( lol
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Dina Vanalten
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06-08-2008 13:18
From: Faithless Babii
Ive just logged into our sim and my partner is getting this message alllll the time

[14:15] Unable to create item that has caused problems on this region

Its a blue pop up type message bottom right hand corner...doesnt say which object, and hes detached all his stuff to see if its anything he is wearing...still happening, anyone got any ideas what this might be?


Just logged on after being away for a few days and am getting this too. So I logged off quickly thinking it was some new form of inventory destruction. :(
Dina Vanalten
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06-08-2008 13:21
From: Phil Deakins
It's the new server code they rolled out the other day.


Oops missed Phil's message. Didn't realize that the "Unable to create item that has caused problems on this region" message was actually a new feature.
Faithless Babii
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06-08-2008 14:48
yes they keep giving us *new features*...gotta love them(not)
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Feline Slade
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06-08-2008 15:12
This is particularly pesky, I've noticed, with a HUD that rezzes objects. You can't set a HUD to group (I tried, the box just unchecks again), which means that those functions of the HUD are unusable.

Unless there's a trick to setting your HUD to share with group. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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Ollj Oh
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06-08-2008 15:26
This bug is region specific and script-owner specific, it only happens on some updated regions and with some kind of scripts, seems to be rezz-permissions on group owned land.
Spying sensors that deploy relays also claim to be unable to rezz per script while they should be able, messing up most teleporters, stational scanners and randomly pooping doves.
Some script parameters seem to survive the update in a messed up state that seems to be the cause, but:

A SIM REGION RESTART/CRASH SOLVES THIS BUG !!
A SIM REGION RESTART/CRASH SOLVES THIS BUG !!

The error message of this thread title has a range of roughly 256 meters so it may be tricky to locate the erroneous region.


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Huds are worn and worn items are never group owned because they are in someones inventory WHILE being worn.
Phil Deakins
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06-08-2008 16:23
From: Avion Raymaker
This is driving me crazy:
[9:52] Can't rez object '~ball' at { 187.5, 148.969, 25.7775 } on parcel 'Devolin Paradise Resort, Devolin Mal, by Avion Raymaker' in region Devolin Mal because you are not allowed on the parcel.

It's just a pirate ship with cannon balls. The cannons are all set to group. Any other suggestions on how to stop the message every 2 minutes?

And what is the color code for text being light blue?
That's the message that I was getting. In my case the balls were in a sex bed and nobody was trying to get them to rez. I even reset the bed completely, and no balls were due to rez but still the messages came. The next day, that bed stopped causing messages but another object started to cause them - again an animation ball. Setting the objects to the group that owns the land fixed them all.
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06-10-2008 15:39
From: Phil Deakins
That's the message that I was getting. In my case the balls were in a sex bed and nobody was trying to get them to rez. I even reset the bed completely, and no balls were due to rez but still the messages came. The next day, that bed stopped causing messages but another object started to cause them - again an animation ball. Setting the objects to the group that owns the land fixed them all.


Yes that's what it was in my case too. I was blaming the cannons, but it was actually the sex couch inside the ship. Wrong "balls."
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