Feature Request: Confirm Land Sale

Right now there is a growing problem with land sales and bots snatching up sales for less then market value. So why can't we just get a simple little dialog that pops up, so and so wants to purchase x and y property at price, yes or no. Make it simple and noobie proof, then add a little check box that says "ignore land sale comfirmation". Problems solved in so many ways, if your new, don't check the box, if your sure you have the right price, and know what your doing, just check the box, and tada, your not dealing with that spam, the land gets sold anyways, everyones happy.

Edit: wait no, don't make it a pop up, you may get it confused with your animate avatar and such pop ups, do a quick little extra menu box that jumps up, maybe even spice it up with a landmark to the area and simple photo of the area. Make it so we can look at the buyers profile. Your selling something worth considerable amounts of money in some cases, the least you can have is the ability to decide who you want to sell to, and make sure the terms are correct.

what if the land seller isnt online?

if people want to pick and chose who they sell to it would be easier to put up a classified about the land and then sell it directly to the person they chose to then no issues will happen

Therein lies the problem, maybe if there was an auto accept within a certain amount of time option it could work.



That would probably have an adverse effect on land buying though but you're right in so much as it would certainly cut down on issues.

i made this suggestion earlier today in this post /327/b9/194177/2.html
*lol*

The system at the moment is heavily gamed and is controlled by bots all over SL, I know the argument is that if you sell your land for zero then your an idiot and deserve to loose it for BEING an idiot,

IRL if you choose to sell your house, its not sold just becasue somebody sticks a wad of cash through the letterbox... allthough sometimes this WOULD be a better way *lol*

The land belongs to the owner untill the transaction is complete... and the controll SHOULD be with the seller NOT the buyer. Therefor there should be a "accept purchase" dialogue and if the seller isnt on line then you are just going to have to wait, or at least have an overide option that is OFF by default so that you selct ..

all you need is an option to
" Ask me before accepting the purchase" as default

or

" yes i want to sell to anybody who pays the price "

Whole bot problems solved ..... easy to code and avoids the whinging about people not being on line

Make a JIRA entry for this. Otherwise it's just preaching to the choir...a very whiny choir!

marty the problem with that is what happens when the land owner isnt online

to me its simple to just place a classified for your land have people contact you chose who to sell it to and then set it to sale for that specific person

I can't see how this would work. Imagine it from the perspective of a large scale land reseller who has to confirm every single purchase. Or from the perspective of a resident trying to buy their first plot of land. They might try to buy a plot, nothing happens, try to buy the next plot... and one day later, they find out that their tier suddenly went through the ceiling, since they own 5 plots of land now. Where would the tier warning come in? On attempting to purchase, but not being sure if you really get the land? On confirmation of the purchase? Would the buyer still be able to opt out of the purchase at that point?

What if more than one person attempts to buy the same plot? Is the plot now locked after the first purchase offer comes in, with the buyer still having the option to cancel the sale? Or would the sellers get 200 blue boxes thrown at them, if 200 people try to buy the same land?

How would the database handle this? Additional database tables storing the IDs of all prospective buyers per plot? Would need a lot of entries per sim, 64k sqm / smallest possible parcel size. Plus tables to store the new possible tier level of each resident, in order to give them correct tier warnings in case that each of their purchase offers is confirmed... I can't see how LL could possibly imlement your solution.

If you want to sell to a specific person only, you can already do so. The problem occurs when people confirm with the standard settings, for sale to everyone, out of thoughtlessness, carelessness or newbness. That's where warning messages need to come in, but without being a major annoyance for people who sell large amounts of land each day.
How about this: the land sale dialog is set to sell the land to yourself by default. If you confirm without changing the default settings, you'll get an error message in the lines of "Can't sell this land to yourself, please select either the name of another person or set it for sale to anyone". Just one more click, not too much of an annoyance, problem solved.

I think you'd have to have an interim period of "Land under offer" whereby nobody else can bid. However there are other implications, gazumping being one. Whereas nobody else would be able to "buy" the land, they could IM the land owner and say "I'll pay more" and then the poor person who made the original bid gets rejected.



If a seller can pull out I think it would only be fair that a buyer can pull out, which could well open a big can of worms but I think this would have to work both ways to be fair.



I think this might actually draw people's attention to what they're doing, so it's a decent idea.

Oh I get so tired of this discussion. The land IS IN CONTROL OF THE SELLER. Right up to the point where the seller gets a warning box that says, basically, "You are about to set this parcel to sale to anyone for $Lxxxx" I don't know how you can make it any clearer than that. If people do not read what they click on, it really is their own fault.

It's called due diligence, folks, and it goes along with caveat emptor. Both are sides of the same equation.

I'm not a landbot user, but they are here and LL seems uninterested in doing anything about it. That's the world we live in folks. The parcels I have sold, I check very carefully when pricing and posting for sale. The parcels I have bought I have checked even more carefully!!

I totally agree with Maximillian.

But if you're absolutely positive that your idea will make a difference, submit it as a new feature in JIRA. Doing it here won't have any effect.

Well he (she?) has said it twice & nobody seems to be interested. I've joined up some chopped up bits of land and I'd hate to see them chopped for adland again so I'd already figured that this approach might give me some chance of avoiding selling to someone with that intention. Seems to me this answers a few of the problems being aired around here and comes under the 'Caveat Venditor'.

Bugger - pre-empted . What Max said!