Second Life clones....Already functioning

Not the point.

The question is whether a clone can usurp the market.... not necessarily about what it's cloned from.

"It should be remembered that the first version of MS-DOS was essentially a clone of DRI's CP/M version 1.4 ported to the Intel 8086/88 (CP/M 2.2 was the more common version by then already)" (http://www.joewein.de/dri.html)

"Microsoft and IBM subsequently managed to get DRI to drop its threat of a lawsuit about MS-DOS by agreeing to offer CP/M-86 as an alternative to IBM PC DOS and leave the choice to the customers" (http://www.joewein.de/dri.html)

"86-DOS function calls were based on the dominant CP/M-80 operating system, written by Digital Research, but it used a different file system" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS)

"The first version of MS-DOS had some resemblance to CP/M-86, but rapidly diverged after the first release. Many of the basic concepts and internal mechanisms of early versions of MS-DOS resembled those of CP/M. Internals like file-handling data structures were identical, and both referred to disk drives with a letter (A:, B:, etc.). The main innovation was MS-DOS's FAT file system. This intentional similarity made it easier to port popular CP/M software like WordStar and dBase" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M-80)

"At issue is a chapter in the book that calls Paterson's program "a slapdash clone" and "rip-off" of CP/M, an operating system developed in the 1970s by Seattle native Gary Kildall, founder of Digital Research Inc. Paterson's suit disputes that claim and a long list of related assertions in the 16-page chapter on Kildall, who died in 1994 at age 52." (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/214196_paterson02.html)

Looks like a lot of people on the internet would disagree that MS Dos (at least in version 1.0) wasn't a clone (albeit not an exact copy) - with the exception of Paterson himself!




Not quite - BASIC was the most common programming language in home computers. Whilst MS developed a BASIC implementation for the Altair platform, and later for the PC, other popular home computer platforms (Apple. Commodore, Sinclair, Tandy, Texas Instruments etc.) developed their own BASIC implementations. But yes, I'd forgotten that MS started with BASIC.




"Many different brands of machines ran CP/M, some notable examples being the Altair, the IMSAI 8080, the Osborne 1 and Kaypro portables, MSX, and even the Apple II when an extra Z80-card was installed. The best selling CP/M capable system of all time was probably the Commodore 128, although few people actually used its CP/M abilities. In the UK, CP/M was also available for the BBC Micro when equipped with a Z80 co-processor. Furthermore, it powered the popular Amstrad PCW word-processing system and was available for the Amstrad CPC series and later models of the ZX Spectrum.

WordStar, one of the first widely used word processors, and dBASE, an early and popular database program for small computers, were originally written for CP/M. An early outliner, KAMAS (Knowledge and Mind Amplification System) was also written for CP/M, though later rewritten for MS-DOS. Turbo Pascal, the ancestor of Borland Delphi, and Multiplan, the ancestor of Microsoft Excel, also debuted on CP/M before MS-DOS versions became available. Various character or text-based games were written. Lifeboat Associates started collecting and distributing user-written "free" software. One of the first was XMODEM, which allowed communication via modem and phone line." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M-80)

Matthew

Meh I replied to ya and just kept rambling, you rock Bodhisatva

*polite Thai wai*

Should have known. I have relatives.

I bow to your research, Matthew. I was only going from memory - not always the best way.

I don't think anyone suggested anything different. We all owe a debt gratitude to IBM for producing their first PC, and for leaving the doors open to compatible versions. If it hadn't been for them failing to close the doors, due to it being something of a sideline for them, we wouldn't all have what we have today - probably not, anyway.

I wasn't complaining at all in my message, I was pointin' out the stuff that others had said, because I thought the whining was annoying, lol. I thought it was a pretty funny assumption for somebody to automatically assume OL automatically would have access to LL's access servers (try saying that 3 times fast!)

I went into the OL Grid with no "expectations" at all so I would be able to look at it more impartially...I knew to do that from experience when it comes to things in the past that were run by "the people" instead of one commercial insterest, lol.

Cya

I'm not Thai myself, but LOVE the country and the (non-tourist side of the) culture.

Gods, what I'd do for some *real* Thai food right about now... it's not bad in California, but it sure isn't the real thing either.

LOL x 10
The "I have relatives" was referring to the rambling, not the Thai

You are inadvertently lightening my day for me, thanks!

I cook a little Thai sometimes and now I'm thinking it's time to whip something up. Maybe Wednesday. Probably not the "real" thing either but I makes what I knows and I likes what I makes

Nononono I never even thought about you complaining! Sorry didnt mean to apply it that way. I was just backing up as they say what your thoughts where.


Have a wonderful day

Usagi

There's a place here that doesn't "dumb it down for white people." Delicious burniness!

I tried getting into these two clones - well, not me personally, but my RL 'hired' an alt to do it.

Boy, am I glad they didn't send meee! Eventually they got into OpenGrid (I think) and they appeared as a kind of anorexic, wrinkly version of Ruth which they couldn't change the appearance of. This avatar wandered around what looked exactly the SL grid and they rezzed a big cube and textured one face of it (L$ 1) per upload. they give you L$ 1000 to start with, but they're like Beta Grid L$, I guess - with no value in RL.

And that's about it!

What do you expect for a startup VR world? I complete Sl ready version? How spoiled people are. What you expect them to grow over night?

No, but do a little mind bending and you see a point

LOL...Usagi you can be mean >~