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SqueezeOne Pow

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05-23-2007 14:37

From: Infiniview Merit

I did quite a bit of experimentation with the terrain idea, and you can make some beautiful prim based terrains with them, however due to the physicality
problem
that Kalel mentioned they wont be feasible anytime soon for that application.
You could do a very shallow terrain like sand water grass or dirt as long as you don't mind your feet getting covered up.

Ooh!! What about putting invisible regular prims over the terrain basically shaped as close as possible to the scupltie's so walking wouldn't look so weird?

It's all about illusion!

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Porky Gorky

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Join date: 25 May 2004

Posts: 1,414

05-24-2007 04:58

Yes, I think everyone got a little bit over excited when sculpted prims were anounced, talk of them 'revolutionising the world' may have been exagerated. Not to take away from their potential, but I am allot less worried today now that I am seeing the scuplties that others are importing. I cannot really see any immediate implications on my business in the short term and in the long term I hope to have gained enough experience to utilize them to their full potential in building.

By the way, the first sculpty I saw on the main grid yesterday was indeed a penis so Collette was spot on with her earlier comments.

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Iridium Linden

Wikkid Linden

Join date: 12 Mar 2007

Posts: 262

05-24-2007 05:08

I just wanted to point all of you to the wiki page of sculpties too! Check out http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Sculpted_Prims.

Nowun Till

Anarchy in the UK Limited

Join date: 4 May 2006

Posts: 227

05-24-2007 05:22

Agree with the limitations of sculpties, absolutely and the overhype.

That said, they will be a fantiastic addition to the grid and with imagination can be used highly creatively.

We have had out first pure sculpty assignment which is due for delivery by the weekend.

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FD Spark

Prim & Texture Doodler

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 4,697

05-24-2007 05:25

I discovered something with drop down menu using regular prims with sculpted option.
I am not sure what I did but it make pretty nice leaves. If you're interested look at link here:
/53/19/186027/1.html#post1522406

Rocky Rutabaga

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Join date: 14 Apr 2006

Posts: 291

05-24-2007 05:45

From: Kalel Venkman

Unfortunately sculpty prims won't work for that - collision detection is done as though the sculpty prim were in its default, undeformed state, not its compound-curvy sculpted form. You can't use it to make undulating hills over which to walk.

KV, Does that apply to furniture too? If I made a 1960s Bertoia chair with all its wonderful parabolas and curves, would the AV sit on the original prim shape and possibly end up hovering over the chair?

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Walker Moore

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05-24-2007 05:56

From: Rocky Rutabaga

KV, Does that apply to furniture too? If I made a 1960s Bertoia chair with all its wonderful parabolas and curves, would the AV sit on the original prim shape and possibly end up hovering over the chair?

that's correct. a sit pose script (or pose ball) would fix that though.

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Yuriko Nishi

Registered User

Join date: 27 Feb 2007

Posts: 288

05-24-2007 06:03

hmmm i played a bit with sculpties. but i can´t see them replacing most of the oldschool builds. they are good for things like a couch, because you can produce rounder edges. but when it comes to complex shapes (uploaded a 1 prim skull) the LOD destroys them pretty much when you zoom out just 3 meters or so and after 6 meters it just looks like crap (depends on the size though)

i am not sure though if they are really implemented for complex shapes or just for simple rounder shapes. i build motorcycles most of the time and i can´t really see how they can help me there. but maybe they are pretty good for other builders.

i really hope that LL will be tweaking the LOD settings to switch later

The Application of Sculpties
SqueezeOne Pow World Changer Join date: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,437	05-23-2007 14:37 From: Infiniview Merit I did quite a bit of experimentation with the terrain idea, and you can make some beautiful prim based terrains with them, however due to the physicality problem that Kalel mentioned they wont be feasible anytime soon for that application. You could do a very shallow terrain like sand water grass or dirt as long as you don't mind your feet getting covered up. Ooh!! What about putting invisible regular prims over the terrain basically shaped as close as possible to the scupltie's so walking wouldn't look so weird? It's all about illusion! _____________________ Semper Fly -S1. Pow "Violence is Art by another means" Visit Squeeze One Plaza in Osteria. Come for the robots, stay for the view!http://slurl.com/secondlife/Osteria/160.331/203.881
Porky Gorky Temperamentalalistical Join date: 25 May 2004 Posts: 1,414	05-24-2007 04:58 Yes, I think everyone got a little bit over excited when sculpted prims were anounced, talk of them 'revolutionising the world' may have been exagerated. Not to take away from their potential, but I am allot less worried today now that I am seeing the scuplties that others are importing. I cannot really see any immediate implications on my business in the short term and in the long term I hope to have gained enough experience to utilize them to their full potential in building. By the way, the first sculpty I saw on the main grid yesterday was indeed a penis so Collette was spot on with her earlier comments. _____________________
Iridium Linden Wikkid Linden Join date: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 262	05-24-2007 05:08 I just wanted to point all of you to the wiki page of sculpties too! Check out http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Sculpted_Prims.
Nowun Till Anarchy in the UK Limited Join date: 4 May 2006 Posts: 227	05-24-2007 05:22 Agree with the limitations of sculpties, absolutely and the overhype. That said, they will be a fantiastic addition to the grid and with imagination can be used highly creatively. We have had out first pure sculpty assignment which is due for delivery by the weekend. _____________________ ....aiming to exceed your expectations.....
FD Spark Prim & Texture Doodler Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4,697	05-24-2007 05:25 I discovered something with drop down menu using regular prims with sculpted option. I am not sure what I did but it make pretty nice leaves. If you're interested look at link here: /53/19/186027/1.html#post1522406
Rocky Rutabaga isn't wearing underwear™ Join date: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 291	05-24-2007 05:45 From: Kalel Venkman Unfortunately sculpty prims won't work for that - collision detection is done as though the sculpty prim were in its default, undeformed state, not its compound-curvy sculpted form. You can't use it to make undulating hills over which to walk. KV, Does that apply to furniture too? If I made a 1960s Bertoia chair with all its wonderful parabolas and curves, would the AV sit on the original prim shape and possibly end up hovering over the chair? _____________________
Walker Moore Fоrum Unregular Join date: 14 May 2006 Posts: 1,458	05-24-2007 05:56 From: Rocky Rutabaga KV, Does that apply to furniture too? If I made a 1960s Bertoia chair with all its wonderful parabolas and curves, would the AV sit on the original prim shape and possibly end up hovering over the chair? that's correct. a sit pose script (or pose ball) would fix that though. _____________________ It's only a forum, no one dies.
Yuriko Nishi Registered User Join date: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 288	05-24-2007 06:03 hmmm i played a bit with sculpties. but i can´t see them replacing most of the oldschool builds. they are good for things like a couch, because you can produce rounder edges. but when it comes to complex shapes (uploaded a 1 prim skull) the LOD destroys them pretty much when you zoom out just 3 meters or so and after 6 meters it just looks like crap (depends on the size though) i am not sure though if they are really implemented for complex shapes or just for simple rounder shapes. i build motorcycles most of the time and i can´t really see how they can help me there. but maybe they are pretty good for other builders. i really hope that LL will be tweaking the LOD settings to switch later

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