Second Life Forums Archive - Is Naked Screwing Couples PG Or Not ?????

Sarah Nerd

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06-23-2007 23:49

So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended.

Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher.

Ava Glasgow

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06-24-2007 01:09

From: Sarah Nerd

So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended.

Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher.

I'm sorry, but I find this a strange argument. The region in question is PG. The place in question is a large store called something like HOT DICKS AND PUSSIES. It is filled with images of prim genitalia including erect (if somewhat silly looking) penises. It has sex beds that are open for use by anyone.

This clearly violates the Linden-stated rules of a PG region. LL created the PG regions so that adults who want to "seek an experience free of Mature content" can also find a place in SL.

My experience is that about 80-90%, maybe even 95%, of all regions are rated Mature. There simply is no shortage of it.

So why is it unreasonable to ask that the PG rules be enforced?

From the Knowledge Base:

From: someone

What is the difference between PG and Mature land?
(the following was written by Cat Linden)

The PG and Mature ratings mirror those used by many countries' movie and television industries to denote the age-appropriateness of behavior, language and creations within a given area of Second Life.

PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. In Teen Second Life, "gambling" for Linden Dollars is also prohibited.

Children and young people up to age 17 are automatically restricted to Teen Second Life, a special PG area that separates them from the adult population of Second Life for their own protection.

Adults age 18 and over may seek an experience free of Mature content and so, we also offer PG areas within the adult regions of Second Life.

Mature areas are limited to the adult-accessible areas of Second Life only, and do allow adult language and behavior.

So how do I know where to draw the line?

PG regions have frequently been described as an area where you're free to say and do things that you would feel comfortable doing in front of your grandmother, or a grade school class.

In Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be contained behind "closed doors".

However, if you feel there's some ambiguity as to whether or not your activity or content is allowed in a PG region, it's likely best kept to a Mature region.

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06-24-2007 03:07

From: Sarah Nerd

So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended.

Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher.

From what I understood, the OP has a shop on a PG sim and now a large sex shop has opened within view of her shop. Not only is it a sex shop, there are sex beds in the windows which are regularily used by people to have sex in public view.

I have a sex bed in my shop on a mature sim, I have a sign asking people to please keep their clothes on while trying it as I don't think even in a mature sim people want to go shopping and fall over that, let alone a PG sim.

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06-24-2007 03:11

Wow, this thread is up to four pages already o.O;

I thought it was pretty straight-foward - PG = no nudity (and in relation, no sex). If it's happening repeatedly, and Linden Labs isn't doing something about it, that's clearly yet another flaw in the system.

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Ciaran Laval

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06-24-2007 03:34

From: Sarah Nerd

So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended.

Come on Sarah, there's a time and a place. If you were at Robin Linden's office hours meeting and someone was running around with their xcite todger on full display I'm pretty sure they'd be told to put it away.

At first I thought the OP was going out of their way to the same spot just to see if it was going on, in which case I'd have taken your stance ..well I did take your stance. However it seems that this is happening in a PG business area. Not only is this out of order, but it could be bad for business too.

Sinitta Shepherd

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06-24-2007 07:01

From what I gather, it's a PG sim in the midst of 8 Mature sims, or something to that respect. Not extremely well-planned from the Lindens' side, I'd say. . .

Deira Llanfair

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06-24-2007 07:47

The problem would seem to be to get LL to action ARs more quickly, but not without making a full and proper investigation first.

In my limited experience of ARs, I think it helps if multiple people file reports about the same incident and also that you show that you have taken whatever reasonable action you could yourself to remedy matters. IM the person responsible and tell them they are outside the Terms of Service and ask them to stop, for example. If they refuse, then file the AR and give details of what action you took. I think this all helps LL staff when they investigate the AR.

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Brenda Connolly

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06-24-2007 08:00

I think a complaint is valid here, but it does ask a question. Even in a PG sime, if adult activity is going on inside of a "private" building, do you report it. The OP states it was in plain view through a window, but otherwise, to see something like that, you have to be looking for it.

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Deira Llanfair

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06-24-2007 08:25

From: Brenda Connolly

I think a complaint is valid here, but it does ask a question. Even in a PG sime, if adult activity is going on inside of a "private" building, do you report it. The OP states it was in plain view through a window, but otherwise, to see something like that, you have to be looking for it.

IMO it has to be in public and openly in view in a PG sim to break the set rules - but good question; others may have a different opinion.

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Sarah Nerd

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06-24-2007 09:49

From: Ciaran Laval

Come on Sarah, there's a time and a place. If you were at Robin Linden's office hours meeting and someone was running around with their xcite todger on full display I'm pretty sure they'd be told to put it away.

At first I thought the OP was going out of their way to the same spot just to see if it was going on, in which case I'd have taken your stance ..well I did take your stance. However it seems that this is happening in a PG business area. Not only is this out of order, but it could be bad for business too.

That makes things different, a large sexual business is one thing, but her post only states people were having sex near her. Yea I can see if huge porno type pictures are hanging all around her house how it would be upsetting, but was that the case here, or is this a case of people having sex inside a building and she acually has to zoom to see? And seriously if sex is offensive to you, do really think sl is the place to be? Honestly? It's such a huge part of second life. It's like an atheist walking into a catholic church and expecting them to cater to them and change certain areas of the church to fit a non believers lifestyle (ok not the best example but its all I can come up with first waking up)

Ava Glasgow

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06-24-2007 10:01

From: Deira Llanfair

IMO it has to be in public and openly in view in a PG sim to break the set rules - but good question; others may have a different opinion.

Check my post above with the Linden-written explanation of the difference between PG and Mature regions. It says PG regions are to be free of sexually explicit language and behavior, and that in Mature, explicit adult content must be contained "behind closed doors."

So ANY explicit sexual behavior in a PG sim is against the rules. Personally I don't think it's a big deal for people in their private homes (even though it's technically breaking the rules), but I would not make this exception for a sex-based business. Even if nothing were visible from outside the parcel, a sex-based business clearly violates the purpose, intent, and spirit of a PG region.

Ava Glasgow

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06-24-2007 10:21

From: Sarah Nerd

That makes things different, a large sexual business is one thing, but her post only states people were having sex near her. Yea I can see if huge porno type pictures are hanging all around her house how it would be upsetting, but was that the case here, or is this a case of people having sex inside a building and she acually has to zoom to see?

Sorry Sarah, I didn't realize you hadn't visited the site. Yes, it is a large sex store with sexually explicit images, language, and behavior. It is a blatant violation of the PG rules.

From: someone

And seriously if sex is offensive to you, do really think sl is the place to be? Honestly? It's such a huge part of second life. It's like an atheist walking into a catholic church and expecting them to cater to them and change certain areas of the church to fit a non believers lifestyle (ok not the best example but its all I can come up with first waking up)

The difference here is that LL specifically created PG regions to make a place for adults who wanted to enjoy SL without being hammered by sexually explicit material.

Making a region PG is an advertised commitment to provide an area free of explicit sex and violence. To expect LL to honor this commitment may be unrealistic, but it is in no way unreasonable.

Sarah Nerd

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06-24-2007 10:45

From: Ava Glasgow

Sorry Sarah, I didn't realize you hadn't visited the site. Yes, it is a large sex store with sexually explicit images, languages, and behavior. It is a blatant violation of the PG rules.

The difference here is that LL specifically created PG regions to make a place for adults who wanted to enjoy SL without being hammered by sexually explicit material.

Making a region PG is an advertised commitment to provide an area free of explicit sex and violence. To expect LL to honor this commitment may be unrealistic, but it is in no way unreasonable.

I stand corrected.

Dellybean North

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06-24-2007 15:57

My stores are in a mature sim, but I eject/ban anyone prancing around in my stores with their dick hanging out and who won't put the clothes on when told to.
Honestly, you wouldn't think you'd have to tell people to keep their clothes on in store where public shopping is occurring, but some people in SL are just too stupid to live IMO.

Astarte Artaud

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06-24-2007 17:47

From: Sinitta Shepherd

From what I gather, it's a PG sim in the midst of 8 Mature sims, or something to that respect. Not extremely well-planned from the Lindens' side, I'd say. . .

No there are 8 PG sims clustered together surrounded by Mature sims. All I am asking is for those 8 PG sims to be maintained as PG. As Ava says there are few enough PG sims around on the mainland.

And this Sex shop has big glass windows directly in front of the beds, and glass roof lights above too, so no; there is no need to use remote cam to show what is going on. It is blatant. And the graphic displays are easily visible from outside too.

Har Fairweather

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06-24-2007 18:16

Hey! The principle is simple: Don't do it in the road! And if you do, do it where it is allowedl

Doh!

I will probably spend most of my time in mature sims as a result of this post, because people doing The Beast With Two Backs in public is tooo amusing to ignore and I don't really care one way or the other, but damn! Not eveyone wants to be bored with that.

I mean after you have personally done it in RL more than a couple dozen times, how much do you really care? And if you do, how much do the rest of us really have to cater to your problem?

The point of the PG sims is to accommodate people whose personal views do not include doing it in the road. I'm willing to give them their space on the grid, along with the gays, and the furries, and the BBDSM crowd, and the cannibalists, and the sheepbot advocates and other perverts, and everybody else. WHY AREN'T YOU?

I mean, think about it, before replying.

Oryx Tempel

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06-24-2007 21:31

If someone is SELLING prim genitalia and sex beds, then it's hardly a "private" parcel. One would hope that the shop owner wants people to come in and check out his wares. Hence the huge windows and invitingly open doorways. It's a PG sim and that stuff shouldn't be allowed. There are gajillions of mature sims out there. I agree with the OP that PG sims are necessary.

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Astarte Artaud

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06-26-2007 07:35

Thanks everyone, especially if you visited the sim and felt compelled to submit an AR.

The offensive advertising/sales boards have now been removed. At the moment the beds remain and still get use, but fortunately not as often as before.

Beebo Brink

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06-26-2007 07:58

From: Dellybean North

Honestly, you wouldn't think you'd have to tell people to keep their clothes on in store where public shopping is occurring, but some people in SL are just too stupid to live IMO.

While standing in the middle of a popular (non-sexual) animations store, I tried -- civilly -- to inform a naked noob with an erection that this was not considered appropriate behavior, even in a mature sim.

I was immediately cussed out, and even called a homophobe (truly funny, considering I'm a lesbian). Evidently clothes were the last items on this guy's list of things to buy -- skin, hair, penis and animations all were a higher priority.

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bilbo99 Emu

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06-26-2007 08:09

LOL Beebo

I think you should have said something like,

"Now look here <name>! This is your mother here! Now get your ass up and out of the cellar and take the trash cans out when you're told!"

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Is Naked Screwing Couples PG Or Not ?????
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND Join date: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 796	06-23-2007 23:49 So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended. Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher.
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	06-24-2007 01:09 From: Sarah Nerd So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended. Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher. I'm sorry, but I find this a strange argument. The region in question is PG. The place in question is a large store called something like HOT DICKS AND PUSSIES. It is filled with images of prim genitalia including erect (if somewhat silly looking) penises. It has sex beds that are open for use by anyone. This clearly violates the Linden-stated rules of a PG region. LL created the PG regions so that adults who want to "seek an experience free of Mature content" can also find a place in SL. My experience is that about 80-90%, maybe even 95%, of all regions are rated Mature. There simply is no shortage of it. So why is it unreasonable to ask that the PG rules be enforced? From the Knowledge Base: From: someone What is the difference between PG and Mature land? (the following was written by Cat Linden) The PG and Mature ratings mirror those used by many countries' movie and television industries to denote the age-appropriateness of behavior, language and creations within a given area of Second Life. PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. In Teen Second Life, "gambling" for Linden Dollars is also prohibited. Children and young people up to age 17 are automatically restricted to Teen Second Life, a special PG area that separates them from the adult population of Second Life for their own protection. Adults age 18 and over may seek an experience free of Mature content and so, we also offer PG areas within the adult regions of Second Life. Mature areas are limited to the adult-accessible areas of Second Life only, and do allow adult language and behavior. So how do I know where to draw the line? PG regions have frequently been described as an area where you're free to say and do things that you would feel comfortable doing in front of your grandmother, or a grade school class. In Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be contained behind "closed doors". However, if you feel there's some ambiguity as to whether or not your activity or content is allowed in a PG region, it's likely best kept to a Mature region.
Denise Bonetto Registered User Join date: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 705	06-24-2007 03:07 From: Sarah Nerd So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended. Oh and yea, You title "are Screwing couples allowed" Doesn't sound very pg to me. Is the term screwing acceptable to the pg type crowd these days? I'm not sure I have been out of that loop ever since I became an adult and sex wasn't so taboo for me anymore. This whole scenario reminds me of of the elementary school playground. One kids hears anouther kid say a "cuss word" and runs to tell the teacher. From what I understood, the OP has a shop on a PG sim and now a large sex shop has opened within view of her shop. Not only is it a sex shop, there are sex beds in the windows which are regularily used by people to have sex in public view. I have a sex bed in my shop on a mature sim, I have a sign asking people to please keep their clothes on while trying it as I don't think even in a mature sim people want to go shopping and fall over that, let alone a PG sim. _____________________
Broken Xeno ~Fething Alt~ Join date: 9 Mar 2007 Posts: 632	06-24-2007 03:11 Wow, this thread is up to four pages already o.O; I thought it was pretty straight-foward - PG = no nudity (and in relation, no sex). If it's happening repeatedly, and Linden Labs isn't doing something about it, that's clearly yet another flaw in the system. _____________________
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	06-24-2007 03:34 From: Sarah Nerd So were they having sex beside you, like in your living room or bed for you to watch and take so much notice, or is this a I see something not allowed I'm gonna be a tattle and make a huge fuss just because it makes me feel powerful kinda deal. Was it on your land? Was there any reason you couldn't turn around or take zoom off of them. If avatar sex is that offensive to you, sl is really not your place to be. Try the sims online the sex is really pg13. You don't have any creative freedom there either, but no fear of being offended. Come on Sarah, there's a time and a place. If you were at Robin Linden's office hours meeting and someone was running around with their xcite todger on full display I'm pretty sure they'd be told to put it away. At first I thought the OP was going out of their way to the same spot just to see if it was going on, in which case I'd have taken your stance ..well I did take your stance. However it seems that this is happening in a PG business area. Not only is this out of order, but it could be bad for business too.
Sinitta Shepherd Registered User Join date: 3 Feb 2007 Posts: 25	06-24-2007 07:01 From what I gather, it's a PG sim in the midst of 8 Mature sims, or something to that respect. Not extremely well-planned from the Lindens' side, I'd say. . .
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	06-24-2007 07:47 The problem would seem to be to get LL to action ARs more quickly, but not without making a full and proper investigation first. In my limited experience of ARs, I think it helps if multiple people file reports about the same incident and also that you show that you have taken whatever reasonable action you could yourself to remedy matters. IM the person responsible and tell them they are outside the Terms of Service and ask them to stop, for example. If they refuse, then file the AR and give details of what action you took. I think this all helps LL staff when they investigate the AR. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	06-24-2007 08:00 I think a complaint is valid here, but it does ask a question. Even in a PG sime, if adult activity is going on inside of a "private" building, do you report it. The OP states it was in plain view through a window, but otherwise, to see something like that, you have to be looking for it. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	06-24-2007 08:25 From: Brenda Connolly I think a complaint is valid here, but it does ask a question. Even in a PG sime, if adult activity is going on inside of a "private" building, do you report it. The OP states it was in plain view through a window, but otherwise, to see something like that, you have to be looking for it. IMO it has to be in public and openly in view in a PG sim to break the set rules - but good question; others may have a different opinion. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND Join date: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 796	06-24-2007 09:49 From: Ciaran Laval Come on Sarah, there's a time and a place. If you were at Robin Linden's office hours meeting and someone was running around with their xcite todger on full display I'm pretty sure they'd be told to put it away. At first I thought the OP was going out of their way to the same spot just to see if it was going on, in which case I'd have taken your stance ..well I did take your stance. However it seems that this is happening in a PG business area. Not only is this out of order, but it could be bad for business too. That makes things different, a large sexual business is one thing, but her post only states people were having sex near her. Yea I can see if huge porno type pictures are hanging all around her house how it would be upsetting, but was that the case here, or is this a case of people having sex inside a building and she acually has to zoom to see? And seriously if sex is offensive to you, do really think sl is the place to be? Honestly? It's such a huge part of second life. It's like an atheist walking into a catholic church and expecting them to cater to them and change certain areas of the church to fit a non believers lifestyle (ok not the best example but its all I can come up with first waking up)
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	06-24-2007 10:01 From: Deira Llanfair IMO it has to be in public and openly in view in a PG sim to break the set rules - but good question; others may have a different opinion. Check my post above with the Linden-written explanation of the difference between PG and Mature regions. It says PG regions are to be free of sexually explicit language and behavior, and that in Mature, explicit adult content must be contained "behind closed doors." So ANY explicit sexual behavior in a PG sim is against the rules. Personally I don't think it's a big deal for people in their private homes (even though it's technically breaking the rules), but I would not make this exception for a sex-based business. Even if nothing were visible from outside the parcel, a sex-based business clearly violates the purpose, intent, and spirit of a PG region.
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	06-24-2007 10:21 From: Sarah Nerd That makes things different, a large sexual business is one thing, but her post only states people were having sex near her. Yea I can see if huge porno type pictures are hanging all around her house how it would be upsetting, but was that the case here, or is this a case of people having sex inside a building and she acually has to zoom to see? Sorry Sarah, I didn't realize you hadn't visited the site. Yes, it is a large sex store with sexually explicit images, language, and behavior. It is a blatant violation of the PG rules. From: someone And seriously if sex is offensive to you, do really think sl is the place to be? Honestly? It's such a huge part of second life. It's like an atheist walking into a catholic church and expecting them to cater to them and change certain areas of the church to fit a non believers lifestyle (ok not the best example but its all I can come up with first waking up) The difference here is that LL specifically created PG regions to make a place for adults who wanted to enjoy SL without being hammered by sexually explicit material. Making a region PG is an advertised commitment to provide an area free of explicit sex and violence. To expect LL to honor this commitment may be unrealistic, but it is in no way unreasonable.
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND Join date: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 796	06-24-2007 10:45 From: Ava Glasgow Sorry Sarah, I didn't realize you hadn't visited the site. Yes, it is a large sex store with sexually explicit images, languages, and behavior. It is a blatant violation of the PG rules. The difference here is that LL specifically created PG regions to make a place for adults who wanted to enjoy SL without being hammered by sexually explicit material. Making a region PG is an advertised commitment to provide an area free of explicit sex and violence. To expect LL to honor this commitment may be unrealistic, but it is in no way unreasonable. I stand corrected.
Dellybean North Registered User Join date: 8 May 2006 Posts: 321	06-24-2007 15:57 My stores are in a mature sim, but I eject/ban anyone prancing around in my stores with their dick hanging out and who won't put the clothes on when told to. Honestly, you wouldn't think you'd have to tell people to keep their clothes on in store where public shopping is occurring, but some people in SL are just too stupid to live IMO.
Astarte Artaud Registered User Join date: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 116	06-24-2007 17:47 From: Sinitta Shepherd From what I gather, it's a PG sim in the midst of 8 Mature sims, or something to that respect. Not extremely well-planned from the Lindens' side, I'd say. . . No there are 8 PG sims clustered together surrounded by Mature sims. All I am asking is for those 8 PG sims to be maintained as PG. As Ava says there are few enough PG sims around on the mainland. And this Sex shop has big glass windows directly in front of the beds, and glass roof lights above too, so no; there is no need to use remote cam to show what is going on. It is blatant. And the graphic displays are easily visible from outside too.
Har Fairweather Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,320	06-24-2007 18:16 Hey! The principle is simple: Don't do it in the road! And if you do, do it where it is allowedl Doh! I will probably spend most of my time in mature sims as a result of this post, because people doing The Beast With Two Backs in public is tooo amusing to ignore and I don't really care one way or the other, but damn! Not eveyone wants to be bored with that. I mean after you have personally done it in RL more than a couple dozen times, how much do you really care? And if you do, how much do the rest of us really have to cater to your problem? The point of the PG sims is to accommodate people whose personal views do not include doing it in the road. I'm willing to give them their space on the grid, along with the gays, and the furries, and the BBDSM crowd, and the cannibalists, and the sheepbot advocates and other perverts, and everybody else. WHY AREN'T YOU? I mean, think about it, before replying.
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	06-24-2007 21:31 If someone is SELLING prim genitalia and sex beds, then it's hardly a "private" parcel. One would hope that the shop owner wants people to come in and check out his wares. Hence the huge windows and invitingly open doorways. It's a PG sim and that stuff shouldn't be allowed. There are gajillions of mature sims out there. I agree with the OP that PG sims are necessary. _____________________
Astarte Artaud Registered User Join date: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 116	06-26-2007 07:35 Thanks everyone, especially if you visited the sim and felt compelled to submit an AR. The offensive advertising/sales boards have now been removed. At the moment the beds remain and still get use, but fortunately not as often as before.
Beebo Brink Uppity Alt Join date: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 574	06-26-2007 07:58 From: Dellybean North Honestly, you wouldn't think you'd have to tell people to keep their clothes on in store where public shopping is occurring, but some people in SL are just too stupid to live IMO. While standing in the middle of a popular (non-sexual) animations store, I tried -- civilly -- to inform a naked noob with an erection that this was not considered appropriate behavior, even in a mature sim. I was immediately cussed out, and even called a homophobe (truly funny, considering I'm a lesbian). Evidently clothes were the last items on this guy's list of things to buy -- skin, hair, penis and animations all were a higher priority. _____________________ www.BrazenWomen.com
bilbo99 Emu Garrett's No.1 fan Join date: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,468	06-26-2007 08:09 LOL Beebo I think you should have said something like, "Now look here <name>! This is your mother here! Now get your ass up and out of the cellar and take the trash cans out when you're told!" _____________________ Be polite .. that newbie could be your next ex-partner.

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