Do SL Staff Scam Lindens?

An object given to me ran a script that emptied my entire account of Lindens. The account that was paid does not exist. How is it possible for SL to record transactions paid to a non-existant account? So I have to ask, are there cases of SL Staff scamming Lindens from us Basic account holders who get no support?

what was the object?
why did you click on yes to give debit permissions for something you didnt know about or got from someone you didnt know?

Did you check your account transactions in the "my account" page of secondlife.com? That should show who the money went to. If that av is no longer in game, then I guess you should raise a support ticket.

Just remember that once you give debit permissions to a script, you cannot revoke them and you must delete the script or the object it is in.

The object given to you also asked if you wished to grant it Debit Permissions.

Did you check your Transaction History located at
https://secure-web4.secondlife.com/account/transactions.php
for the name of the account your Linden dollars wound up in?

It is unlikely Lindens would need to steal Linden dollars as they have the ability to create them.

Basic accounts get the level of customer service which they pay for.

Well your almost right. But the Lindens have to report all amounts taken, they just don`t take without reporting how much they maded.

They are monitored but accounting themselves by LLabs.

Usagi

Additionally all LL staff and contractors must sign an agreement about not using insider information to make a profit, or to give out insider information so that others can make a profit.

You should open a support ticket about the object stealing your L$.

I'm assuming this is a real world contract and thus actually means something, because lord help us if it's an SL contract

Yes Real World contracts involving lawyers and US$.

Ok good, just wanted to make sure.


Also, from what I've read in the past LL makes use of compartmentalized knowledge to make sure that people who don't need to know info that could be misused or mishandled don't come into contact or have access to that information which is a good safeguard.

There are all sort of rumors about how some lindens give away millions of lindens to friends within the game. That is highly doubltful, if they did as Strife said they break the written agreement as well. Hence losing their job.

Usagi

The user got banned and you recieved an object that they had already made before getting banned.

When a user gets banned, their name is stricken from all records, but their UUID still exists. Since scripts use the person's UUID when transferring money, the money has just gone down the drain. I'm sorry that you were scammed

Actually, from what I was told, they don't.

If they go into god/test mode, they can pay out unlimited numbers of L$ without having them in their accounts, but I don't think they can just increase their own balances, and every time they do it it's logged and they have to account for it.

For their own personal spending I believe Lindens recieve a stipend like any Premium user, and can also buy L$ if they want to.

If that's the case, LL should be able to track that the money didn't go to anyone, and give it back. It would be different if he scammer had gotten the money and then cashed out.

Lindens can take as much money as they like. But they most report any amount they take period/ an dreport what was done with it.

Have to comment that the so-called "God Mode" must be a bit of a worry to a SL business that is there to attempt to earn a viable first life income via Linden dollars. I would hope that the means to achieve god mode would be very secure and un- gamable, even to those who may attempt to write an SL viewer (now being open source)

Like landbots and the so called copybot, once the genie is out of the bottle you cannot put it back very easily, a hackable full god mode known to exist could bust SL as it stands

Actually, anyone can turn on God mode. Thats been possible for a couple of years.

But all the really interesting functions are account-locked. Just turning on god mode doesn't get you then.

I think it's rare for LL to ever return "stolen" L$ through whatever means, it just contributes to the 'Misc' sink instead.

I would assume it's at least as secure as the World of Warcraft "Game Master" interface, and actualy Id also guess more secure because, while I've seen private servers for WoW with GM interface enabled (and doing things impossible for players)- I've never even seen a private server with SL god mode enabled in that fashion.

It's secure.

A while back they use to trace said stolen monies, in a serious situation maybe LLABS gets involved. But these days......... even honest people don`t have a chance to get their monies back.

A gift to victims of fraud, they are allowed to participate in compulsory inflation reduction.

Well that is exactly my point Capella. WoW is not secure

Take a look here (but if you play WoW be aware this program is highly illegal)

http://www.wow-advantage.com/index.php

That is just one hack relating to WoW, the program works by looking for data stored in the computers memory, the effect is to massively increase your stats. I have not and will not use it because there is no point in playing a strategy game for fun and then cheating.

But WoW is for fun although it has a type of closed economy; SL has money and an open economy that translates into US dollars. God mode enablement (if the means to activate it leaks out) could cause all sorts of issues; the copybot issue would be a pale shadow by comparison

Apples and oranges.

And, again, it's easy to enable "god mode". It just doesn't DO anything, unless your last name is Linden.

Ah well maybe that is what the guy who hacked into the Linden database, created a few Linden dollars from thin air, and went on to hack our credit card details thought.......

He didn't do it using God Mode - he attacked the data vault directly. (And, as far as anyone knows, he didn't actually steal any credit card numbers.)

The number of group notices regarding nefarious av's creating these items has increased quite a bit in the last few weeks. A previous thread talked about one example that was essentially grief...is there any way to stop these messages? Is it helpful, or just spam in the end?