Age verification: effect on land prices?

So.. Are we gonna see the price for mature regions take a dive and PG regions start to get really expensive?

no because you can now as of the previous update flag your parcel as pg in a mature region simply by not checking in the mature box

First they lowered weekly stipends...

Then there was CopyBot...

Then there was the End of First Land...

Then there was Open Source...

Then there was the ESC Search Bot...

Somewhere in there came the Incredible Lag Monster From You-Know-Where...

Then they announced Voice...

And we ended up with more Residents than anyone would have imagined six months ago. Somehow I have a hard time seeing this as The End of Second Life As We Know It. We'll just hit 7,000,000 Residents, and in another few months the majority of Residents will never have known any other Second Life.

Open Source came before the end of First Land.

What's your reply have to do with land prices being impacted by age verification?

I say no as the sim rating isn't the flag here, but the new mature parcel option in land ownership.

Sure it wil lower Land prices - Less demand, lower prices. l

Becuase a fair sized chunk of people will be tiering down or leaving.

They wont consider Providing this verification information worth staying in Second Life.

And I dont want to shock anyone - a lot of people do like Second Life Sex. Its always a little funny to me how many on the forums act like its such a horrible thing or want people know they dont participate in it.

Additionally a lot of Sex Industry Venues will be going out of business. Many of their workers are unverifieds, as are many of their Customers and traffic raising visitors and campers. This will result in a lot more land for sale.

Dang, that blows away my whole theory.



I think land prices are a product of supply and demand. I'm predicting SL will continue to grow at a very healthy rate even after voice and age verification are active. I have no reason to believe LL will release new sims at a much higher rate than they have over the past couple of months. Therefore I believe land prices will hold steady. Mature sims offer more flexibility than PG sims, and the Conventional Wisdom is that Mature land is worth more than PG land, so I expect Mature land will continue to keep up with PG land in price.

Collette, people will still be able to use their sex beds in their homes I think without flagging their parcel adult. If people cam in to watch, they can't complain. So some SL sex is safe. You are probably right about the sex industry tho. Or there will be red light districts set up. Amsterdam did very well and it was a hoot to visit.

I am beginning to see SL sex as separate from porn for some reason.

Thats becuase it is seperate.

However why is land where people have sex on it not "Adult" ?

That makes no sense to me. Were we somehow granted privacy while I wasnt looking? Ive been pointedly reminded we have none.

You could probably unflag it when your done having sex I suppose.

The biggest thing that effects land prices is how many sims are in the auction queue. The other issues have some effect, but not enough to move prices as fast as the supply of fresh sims does.

Case in point: Land prices for both pg and mature are going up today because there are no new sims in the queue.

Thats assuming nothing external to Linden Labs auction system to either raise supply or lower demand.

a sizable chunk of people cashing out of SL would count as both a raise in Supply and a lowering in demand.

Colette ... that was kind of the point i was trying to make in my other post regading making a new continent

On topic again



I do see a slight fall in land pricing at first as people sell up and leave SL refusing to use the new sign up .... then i see a MASSIVE drop in pricing as people just get sick of seeing ban lines all over the place, Thay will spring up over night as all the Adult parcels get closed off to the rest of us who don't sign up .

my thoughts too. under the new system, that would be an abuse report waiting to happen.

honestly Raymond, somebody should collate your posts and make a land speculator's handbook. i learn so much about land from you while I lurk here on the forums.

Yupp i think this is going to be hard to define , Not adult .. or adult ?

looking at how vague they make the community standards - it will depend on what Linden you get that day you are Abuse Reported



We need Account protections.

Not more ways for other users to try to deny our account access.

I predict that in the comming weeks / months / years even , that this will come back to bite LL .

To be honest ... and i totaly understand your concern here .... i don't think that a sexual act on ones own land on a mature sim will be regarded as an offence ... even if the land is Not set to Adult content.

Makes me laugh to think i would have to pay $10 so that i could have sex on my land


If thats the case ... land pricing will drop .... well mine will ..in a rush to sell it

Thanks, but it's simple enought to sum up in one post. All you really need to know is this:

LL controls prices because they control the supply.

Residents control the demand, which has increased about 50% since last year at this time because of the huge population increase. All the negative factors, like land bots, ugly spam ads, estates being more attractive, controversies and annoyances like age verification and banning casino advertising are easily negated by the population increase. There's a new baron born every minute who will buy that below market mature plot someone is dumping due to an age verification concern. This kind of stuff barely makes a ripple.

The only other thing that impacts the market is severe performance issues, like when nothing works after an update and you can't search or TP anywhere.

So watch the auction que. If there are a ton of sims up for auction, prices will drop. If it's slim pickins, watch the prices rise slowly and steadily.

BTW, I am open to anyone calling me on any of this. It's just my opinion.

PG (Parental guidance advised) rating in Secondlife (18+ and over).......oxymoron ????

The rating of PG .....has to go anyways !!!!!!!!!!

They will need it once teenagers are allowed on the main grid.

There is also an over saturated amount of land presently available, it will take a while before the supply sees a demand.

I do agree with Walker, you do have good posts.

"controversies and annoyances like age verification and banning casino advertising are easily negated by the population increase. "

I think you vastly underestimate the impact of age verification. I contend that a significant majority of the population increase has been precisely because of the sexual content of SL. Make that content more annoying or intrusive to access and that population growth will certainly disappear....and probably take a huge chunk of current residents with it. Myself most definitely included. I enjoy erotic roleplay. I consider it an art. I liked SL as a medium because of the nice props and the ability to create a unique, detailed avatar. But text always carries the weight anyway, and I can carry on without the props and avatar somewhere else.

I predict not only a drop in land values, but an eventual closing of SL. Laugh if you like. Sony laughed, too, a few months before we all left Everquest. For many people (Please note: not all), this is just a social game and eroticism is the big draw. Take away the sex and it's a chaotic mess with not a lot to do.....no, really.

As the old saying goes, "Where there's a will, there's a way". The only way to end the sex in SL is for all of us to lose our sex drives. The sex is not going away by a long shot. And neither are SL members. Hehe. I said "members".

And I agree with both of you.

AR!! AR!!!