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"Go Away/AFK When Idle" still broken -- how to vote for it to be fixed

bilbo99 Emu
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07-13-2007 02:11
From: Tegg Bode
Could be like some of the older games where everyones AV just stays where they logged out perhaps, that would look cool 6.5M residents all standing around, Land would seel we could use Bulldozers to push them into piles or into terrain holes then prim them in :)

Ya know? .. for someone in a so-called community .. you're picking up some rather anti-social tendencies?

Now get that barbie going!! :D
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Morwen Bunin
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07-13-2007 03:28
Still I think it is good to be logged from game after 30 minutes of inactivety.... And if SL is pushed to background to work in Photoshop or to read the forums, as someone already said, SL will let you know by a flashing button in your taskbar that something is going on.... you can react on that.

Someone hardware specs are here out of place, if your computer is older, you know that you will run to certain limitations.

Morwen.
Porky Gorky
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07-13-2007 03:53
From: Morwen Bunin
Still I think it is good to be logged from game after 30 minutes of inactivety.... And if SL is pushed to background to work in Photoshop or to read the forums, as someone already said, SL will let you know by a flashing button in your taskbar that something is going on.... you can react on that.

Someone hardware specs are here out of place, if your computer is older, you know that you will run to certain limitations.

Morwen.


I dont use a taskbar and am constantly flipping between applicaitons so I am now using an anti idler in response to issue outlined by the OP, otherwise SL just logs me off after 30 mins without a visible warning outside of the client.
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Morwen Bunin
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07-13-2007 04:00
From: Porky Gorky
I dont use a taskbar and am constantly flipping between applicaitons so I am now using an anti idler in response to issue outlined by the OP, otherwise SL just logs me off after 30 mins without a visible warning outside of the client.


If you flip constantly between applications, maybe flip once per 20 minutes to SL? :)

Morwen.
Dagmar Heideman
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07-13-2007 11:29
From: Isablan Neva
:) Let's take a vote. How many people think that anti-idle should be banned in SL?


Why not just ban camping instead? I'm not advocating either way but let's be candid. The real issue is certain people's distaste for camping because of the significant amount of load that afk camping puts on sims and the server, not the validity of having the Go Away/AFK When Idle feature. Stop beating around the bush and just be honest about it and advocate the elimination of camping scripts.

I am voting to give the fix a priority.
XPlorR Moore
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07-13-2007 20:06
It sounds like the Nicholaz viewer has this problem fixed. (uses a patch to revert whatever part this relates to back to a previous version.) You might want to try it before you start whipping out the anti-idle scripts.

PS: I wish there were more campers on the forums. It's a total camper hate fest around here. :/

From: someone
Why not just ban camping instead?
Aren't they basically already doing that by getting rid of traffic?
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Vye Graves
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07-14-2007 00:45
This may sound like a dumb question, but what are all the non-sex beds for? Or as someone pointed out the desks in our houses? I can see chatting while you are, say, sunbathing, but if there's no idle more than 30 minutes, why would anyone waste the prims putting a non-sex bed in their house?
Broken Xeno
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07-14-2007 00:51
From: Vye Graves
This may sound like a dumb question, but what are all the non-sex beds for? Or as someone pointed out the desks in our houses? I can see chatting while you are, say, sunbathing, but if there's no idle more than 30 minutes, why would anyone waste the prims putting a non-sex bed in their house?



Looks. It's like anything in Second Life, it's a simulation of a first life that someone wishes they had. That perfect little house, with the perfect little garage and the perfect little car, and this and that, and maybe a little of those. I guess it's just what people desire to have. One person may not want to waste the prims on a thing, but another might be quite willing to if it simulates a life they desire.
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Vye Graves
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07-14-2007 01:04
But they have sleep animations, though, so they aren't just for show. It's within the realm of reason that someone might want to leave their avi logged in, and just put it to bed in the off hours, isn't it?

I know when I've been designing some stuff in Photoshop I've left SL self lounging about in my living room in case I get a message from someone. By all rights I'm not "active", and I've often been logged out, but it is within reason that the other "me" might hang around the house waiting for someone to call.
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07-14-2007 01:06
True, I guess. I'd never want to just leave SL on, all the time, but there are people who would want to. For the most part I've seen things like that as for looks though, in general.
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Vye Graves
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07-14-2007 01:17
Depends on how you see it, I guess. I remember playing Everquest with friends, and my toon was on 24/7, only knocked off for patches. If I wasn't playing I was parked in the bazaar selling.

I understand its different here, but I guess I got accustomed to the idea of my toon "living" there, and not just a representation of me appearing and disappearing. SL just feels so empty. I like to wander to get used to the world, learn about different areas, etc., and more often than not it feels like walking through ghost towns.

Before I came to SL I modded Oblivion, and its really odd going from towns stuffed full of NPCs going about their day to all the empty houses and deserted malls. I love SL so far, but beyond a few spots I've been it doesn't seem "lived in" if you get my meaning. It's hard to put into words, but it feels more like a three dimensional representation of a "website" community, mixed with a 3d Ebay and adult sites all rolled into one.

It's like browsing websites and being able to see the other people browsing. I think that is cool, and it has definite possibilities, but it just doesn't feel like a "world" to me. As time goes on and I find more activities I'd bet that will change, though.
Tegg Bode
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07-14-2007 03:45
Wll I guess if you think being logged in while not playing is ok then you have really got no problem with the other 50 odd residents in your sim all doing the same so your friends/customers can't get into your sim.
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Broken Xeno
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07-14-2007 04:03
From: Tegg Bode
Wll I guess if you think being logged in while not playing is ok then you have really got no problem with the other 50 odd residents in your sim all doing the same so your friends/customers can't get into your sim.



I'd love to see how SL handled everyone with an account logged in, all the time, never logging out. As laggy as it is? lol.
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Vye Graves
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07-14-2007 08:23
From: Broken Xeno
I'd love to see how SL handled everyone with an account logged in, all the time, never logging out. As laggy as it is? lol.


There's <37,000 people logged in right now. You have over 1.7 million users signed in the last 30, eight million signed up altogether. I don't have a problem with the assumption that a large portion will never be on at once. If the current lagginess has anything to do with the number of players on, though, that's biting off more than you can chew *to the extreme*.

If SL is relying on less than a third of a tenth of the visitors in a given month logging on at the most, well, I'd rather know and not build anything on such a system. In my experience though, the number of players in one spot adds to a bit of load time, but once they are all loaded I don't have much problem.

...that is until the inevitable God of War with every single slot blinged and flexified walks by does his enormous samurai sword kata animation, but that slows me down even in low population areas. Are you saying that the servers themselves won't hold up if a substantial number of people go to the same area at the same time?
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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07-14-2007 09:52
From: Morwen Bunin
Agreed. I cannot think of any valid reason to be for more then 30 minutes inactive in SL. And if you get logged off, it is easy enough to log in again.

Morwen.


I prefer to not get auto-logged after 30 minutes, personally. I NEVER EVER do any camping (or game traffic in any other way), but I *do* spend an awful lot of time scripting. Since SL's script editor is so atrociously bad, I do nearly all of my scripting in a client-side editing program and copy/paste into SL when I'm ready to test a script.

Sometimes, when I'm really involved in making a change or really on a roll, I could go 45 minutes before having something to test (I usually log off intentionally if I think it's gonna be longer).

Sure, you say it's easy enough to log back in again, but we all know that's not always true, don't we? Sometimes you get zombied (System is logging you out, your account won't be available until.....), or any number of other reasons you won't be able to get back in and continue what you are doing.

Those of you making blanket statements that this feature is only used for camping need to use a little imagination. If that was it's only possible purpose, I doubt it would even be an available option.

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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-14-2007 10:13
I always have AFK Disabled and i do not camp. It's used for those who friggin hate going for a snack and coming back to find your logged out... Whoever invented auto-logout should be shot 14 times in the face with the cricket gun.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-14-2007 10:17
Not to mention that every time i get logged out of SL when I'm busy doing things, i end up being stormed by new IMs upon logging back in. At least if i stay in world that doesn't happen as much... Theres just something about someone relogging that makes everyone want to IM them.
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