Shocked and Stunned

Well I guess what I'd be asking here is wouldn't most people be shocked by what I've just recently encountered?
I was sim hopping around and landed in a fairly busy place. There were some child avs there, but hey, why not? We were all kids once, and it does no harm to play does it? So I wandered around and clicked on a few things out of idle curiousity, and then I clicked on one child av's profile. Uh oh. Often on the first page of a profile we'll find a picture of the av. Occasionally a picture from a person's RL will be on the RL page. Durr. But a RL photo on the SL/first page of a profile? Of a real life child? In a very explicit pose? And what's on the RL page? Oh just a sales pitch for more of the same.

I was wrong. Not shocked or stunned. Sickened. This is not harmless ageplay. A real child was posed for that picture. According to the police detectives now investigating this case she is about 10 years old in the photo. I wonder where she is tonight. I wish I thought she was safely at home with her family, but it's not likely.

You need to Abuse Report that right away.

Edit to say: Oh sorry, seems the police are involved now.

Abuse Report it and otherwise notify the Lindens anyway. They like to get rid of stuff like that these days.

To answer your question... shocked is not the word I choose. It's not strong enough for the emotions.

I asume the first thing you did was an abuse report? It would have been my first step. Add AGE to the subject and choose it from the drop down.

Please also feel free to contact me inworld with AV names involved so I can get them banned from the regular kid spaces in SL. You'll find most kid avvies do not take to well to that.

I'd be especially curious if they were in any of our spaces, causing us more difficulty thanks to their garbage.

Mari

I'd like to think so, though it's sometimes harder to believe after I've been reading these forums for an hour...

At least I'm happy to hear that there are police investigating, and I do hope you've notified Linden Labs as well.

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Its sicko's like this that can give SL a bad name. At least most of us won't stand for this crap and do our duty to report them to SL.

Where a child avatar is unambiguously there as a sextoy, Linden Lab is extemely good at following up abuse reports on the avatar in a timely fashion, for which I am very grateful.

When AR-ing such avatars, it helps if you can send an IM to everyone around you, encouraging them to send off simultaneous ARs against that avatar.

Yep, I did AR it, and the police in UK are in touch with LL to deal with it. Seems they have to locate the country where the av is resident first, and that can be hard. This av belongs/ed to a lot of groups, pretty much all of which seem to be child/adult sex themed, tho of course I couldn't say which ones might be harmless r/p.
Thanks for the positive reactions so far; I was a bit concerned about posting this as I know there are harmless ageplayers out there. I'm not in any way having a pop at those.

No, you're right to post, i'd be horrified & would've AR'd it right off too, also you contacted the police which I may have waited for LL to do, so well done on that. I always check child av's profiles myself but never expect to find anything & would be sickened if I did. I'm glad you posted, to me these forums are for asking questions, venting, warning people, anything we need them to be, hope it helped to post.

In this case I can't see why anyone would have a reaction different from yours. It's good to hear that the Wheels of Justice are turning on this already.

Thankoo, Pixieplum, for the information. I've started getting them banned at all the regular kid spaces, and several other kids have filed their own ARs on the person's profile.

Ick. Just ick.

From a personal standpoint, too, it's people like that which make it hard on us kids in SL. I hope they have tol answer for anything they've done, and face the full penalty of law.

Mari

I would have nuked the place and AR'ed them through a concierge.

You did the right thing calling the authorities. I hope everyone would have done the same.

That is horrible.

That is disturbing that people are doing that. One can only hope that the authorities catch up with them and send them to my RL place of work, wherever they are in the world.

Might want to contact the Company before calling in Scotland Yard.

It could be a stupidly blatant paedophile, or, it could be some regular Joe who was foolish enough to share his password with a vindictive ex.

I have no doubt that the Company would do its utmost to scourge this sort of thing from the grid, and call the proper authorities if it's more than a stupid prank.

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Incidentally, if you viewed that profile, you downloaded its picture to your computer in the process of seeing it.

If the deleted image hangs around as data on your hard drive, that's some pretty convincing 'evidence' that you are involved in questionable practises as well, unless of course you can explain Second Life's data streaming to a court.

I'd avoid the whole situation like the plague.

What exactly was the picture? I see a lot of comments about the person being hanged etc etc without even knowing what the picture is.

The base note described it as a RL photo of a girl around 10 years old in an explicit pose.

That tells me nothing.

Hmmmm

This is certainly how it works - in the UK I *believe* it is more than two images. I could be wrong on that.

Presumably though, if you have such an image on your PC and in the extremely unlikely event that YOUR PC is also snatched ... the sheer lack of other evidence (assuming the OP's innocence which I think is pretty cut and dried ) then there also would be the supporting evidence from Linden that the image related to material they did not choose to see and which they took appropriate steps to avoid being broadcast to others ...

You'd hope anyway, but on this I am sure LL would be extremely compliant.

I glad to hear that this has been reported to LL, it is just plain heinous, and most definitely Broadly Offensive.

It gives legitimate age players a black eye and tarnishes every resident of SL in the eyes of the press.

Unfotunately, neither shocked, nor stunned, But Disgusted, and Outraged would describe my attitude, I'm Glad you involved the Police, and i Know LL will cooperate fully to see to it this Parasitic Sicko is Nailed.
Adults Playing Kids, I don't have a problem with, But people victimizing Children, That i have serious Issue with.


Well, he's Not going to reprint the Pic so I think the description Covers all you Really Need to Know.

Angel.

I'm actually not sure how much I can say here. The image was of a RL preteen female wearing skimpy clothes (short shorts and a tank top) lying in a suggestive position on a couch. The text beneath lists rate for "rental." First life panel continues this, with this RL kid (or another - no way to tell, and I wasn't gonna longer) face down on couch, light bondage, and additional text about services. I believe the OP mentioned the photo(s) having been changed at some point.

The groups of said member were also disturbing, seemingly sexual ageplay groups. None of the usual kid groups. One also included their name, as in "Using ___." Overall, very disturbing.

At any rate more than I ever, ever wanted to see.

Mari

It was the right step to abuse report that person for obviously trading explicit photos of real children. I would have done the same.

It makes no sense to involve the british police though, before Linden Lab has run a background check on this avatar and found out where this person lives and which authorities are responsible for handling this. LL has announced that they will contact the appropriate authorities by themselves in such a case. UK police forces might be unable to do anything if the resident lives in Timbuktu, and the last thing LL needs right now is another media scandal.

As I told another SL kid tonight, in discussing this, it is just this sort of person dat LL was talking about when it did the "notecard policy" on sexual ageplay -- an it ain't us, but these.... people. Really shows the line in all-too-clear terms :-/

Mari

I should perhaps explain that I worked as a foster carer for abused kids for many years, and although I AR'd this in the first instance, I also reported it to the police here as I would any evidence or suggestion of child abuse. Certainly we don't know the country of origin of this av, but the officers I've spoken to (and worked with for years) assured me that I did the right thing. As regards the picture being on my computer; the fact that I notified the police and LL and absolutely the absence of anything else like it will, I think, make it unlikely that I will be investigated over this image!
Whilst I'm not an advocate of vigilantism, if we want SL to continue to be our world and imagination, perhaps eternal vigilance truly is the price of freedom?

Then you're not all that bright... look up explicit in the dictionary. What? Do you need to see the pic?