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I feel i'm being harassed by a sim admin

Faybot Foxley
Morgana Le Fey's Landbot
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
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04-18-2007 00:38
Have you at least figured out why this person is attacking you socially? It appears you have found out who they are.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
04-18-2007 06:25
From: Faybot Foxley
Have you at least figured out why this person is attacking you socially? It appears you have found out who they are.

So far i haven't gathered any more info on the matter. The only thing i can think of is their account was compromised. I've known him a long time and know him to be a really good guy in the past. My intuition tells me that the situation is much larger then it appears. He may just be acting upon someone else's attack against me. He might be being deceived himself. ;/
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Natsumi Onmura
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Join date: 29 Dec 2006
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Why do I feel like I'm back in high school reading this?
04-18-2007 07:03
I've been following along, and I'm sorry that you're getting such grief, but I'm wondering just what you think LL can and should do for you?

Do you think they're going to say, "Hey, Yiffy is complaining that you kicked him out of these groups, let him back in or else"? Honestly, I doubt that will happen. What I think (and I say think, mind you) will happen is they will tell you like they tell every one else that has to deal with issues in-world: work it out amongst yourselves.

LL cannot force someone to add you back into their group, just like I can't make someone add me to their all inclusive group, simply because I want to be added - if that were the case, the help and support people would be backlogged for days with people who wanted to get into groups.

My opinion, and take it for all you want or ignore if you want to as well - let it go. The person made their choice. Whether or not you agree with it is your choice. We're not in high school anymore and we can't go running to our school counselors every time we think that our BFF is being unfair.
bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
04-18-2007 07:44
Natsumi, I think you're missing a fundamental point here. The groups in question aren't like your high school gangs. They are part of a carefully organised structure for maintaining stability and safety among land and land owners.
The fact that one person for whatever reason (and it's this point that's the most important) can engineer a systematic banning of a respected member with no possible mechanism of review or appeal is undermining confidence in the way things work here.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
04-18-2007 09:08
I need to point out that only 1 of those 3 groups belonged to them. The other 2 he had a influence in, in order to get me kicked. The second group he contacted the owner, and one of his officers kicked me as you can see on the blog. The 3rd group, he was a officer in, as was I. He kicked me from that group himself. he was not the owner of that group. When i contacted the owner of that group, they claimed to be thinking about disbanding it anyway, but i fear he was already 'talked to' and 'persuaded' by the attacker.

After this event, i contacted every group owner that wasn't touched yet, and told them about the situation. So far it's been ok. No i don't expect Linden Lab to ask the attacker to stop attacking me, or re invite me to those groups... My goal is to expose the truth of this matter to defend my case, so that i have evidence of the situation. It may be only text, but that's about all there can be... How would i have any other evidence about such a thing? All i can say is someone is trying to cause me grief, or probably destroy me, and i want to prevent that from happening.
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poopmaster Oh
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04-18-2007 09:13
you own land adjenct to these 'friends'?

make it a sandbox :)
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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04-18-2007 09:17
From: poopmaster Oh
you own land adjenct to these 'friends'?

make it a sandbox :)

I own a sim, and estate manage another which i also have a home in. Both of these sims are for residential purposes, and are being rented out to people in small chunks. Their both completely full, and turning them into a sandbox would mean i would have to change all that.. That isn't something i want to do hehe. These are paying customers. :) These sims i manage aren't exactly next door to the other persons sims, but are nearby. The same furry continent.
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Greg Trimble
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Join date: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 13
04-19-2007 09:05
From: Sweet Primrose
"I have already filed a abuse report on them for harassment"

As disheartening as it may be to find some of your friends have betrayed you, apparently, I do not understand why you would consider this AR worthy. Being exluded is not abuse, is it, even if it does hurt?


Bingo.

The Lindens don't get themselves tangled up in civilian affairs. There's no business motive for doing so. The AR will get you precisely zero - oh, except to make an official declaration that you can't handle your own social problems.

Sorry it happened to you, but filing an AR was a futile and pointless gesture.
TC Bing
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Join date: 14 Apr 2007
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04-22-2007 19:00
Does anyone else see the irony in this? The groups setup to provide some kind of security against griefers have been themselves compromised by a griefer. And to boot are even blind to it.

I'm very new to SL but not to RL and this has the feel of calculated revenge. The insider has completed their assignment; ruining your role in the security community. Knowing the reason behind the character assassination isn't important. It exists and that's enough.

Now is the time for you to beat them at their game. Let it die down and wait for them to give you the rope you need. Sooner or later you will have all the ammunition you need to eliminate your problem.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
04-26-2007 19:11
From: TC Bing

Now is the time for you to beat them at their game. Let it die down and wait for them to give you the rope you need. Sooner or later you will have all the ammunition you need to eliminate your problem.

So far i haven't found any dirt, but i am digging. One side of the story shows the possibility that the person who ejected me was trying to quarantine me from the others to protect them from a bigger threat, and the other side of the story show that this person may be a griefer who gained the trust of many people in SL. If the first side is correct, i feel it is only right that i know why i am being singled out, and what i can do to stop what ever it is from happening. If the second side is correct, we need to get rid of this person immediately.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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05-12-2007 06:40
http://wolfeedarkfang.blogspot.com

I have updated my blog with current news about the situation. I was able to get some answerers. It appears I'm being accused by these people, of being involved in organized griefing. I'm not sure how anybody can just come out and say that about someone without any proof. I've spoken to LL on the phone about it, and they have no word on the story. It appears the starter of these rumors is acting alone, and just wishes to get me out of the picture. I assume their the real griefer. I've never had any intention of becoming a griefer, nor have i ever been involved in any activities of the liking. Wherever these people are getting their information, they really need to be audited for accuracy...

As most people already know I've served the furry community in SL for 2 1/2 years as a admin and content creator. I don't own or use any weapons except for my psitec which i only use to remove griefers from my own sim if the estate tools fail to do it for me. If you look at my blog you can see all the things I've done for SL, and what these people are trying to do to me. I think they have gained way too much power. I fear they can easily destroy anyones SL. They have LL tied around their fingers and can pose a worse threat then PN if given the chance. The fact that they refuse to talk to me about it, and have me muted, only points further into that direction.
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Dnali Anabuki
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Posts: 1,633
05-12-2007 09:22
We really need inworld mediators with some powers for these situations. Too many times there is a falling out and there is no remedy to use a 3rd party to help out except a Linden. If we could use mediation, it would really help. In that case your reputation would be an important element in the process. And even if they had no power to ban or force anything, they could write up a decision after a checking of the facts. And then that could be presented to the Lindens for action.

In this case, Resident answers is serving as a poor substitute for inworld mediation. Some brilliant folks out there with ties to the Lindens want to take on in world mediation? Or some lawyers?

And yes, I know there are all sorts of downsides to this, we could hope that it would be developed with input from Residents so that it could be as fair and transparent as possible. What has allegedly happened to Yiffy is an example of the sort of thing that could be mediated since it is affecting his SL life in a huge way. Trees over property lines not so much.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
05-14-2007 06:48
From: Dnali Anabuki

In this case, Resident answers is serving as a poor substitute for inworld mediation. Some brilliant folks out there with ties to the Lindens want to take on in world mediation? Or some lawyers?

A investigation service would be real nice. As long as they follow ALL sides of the story and not just the first person they talk to. I would be glad to take on this role. I've been very good with investigations as you can see from this topic. I've also been very tight with security (both personal and public). However i believe the people for this role should not be people who are actively involved in the community already. They should be residents who have been around for a couple years and do not have any ties to land/business ownership or management. there for that rules both me and my rival out.
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Dnali Anabuki
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05-14-2007 08:56
Yiffy, my spidey sense tells me that it would be sad to lose you from the SL Community. I hope you will consider teaching either for an established group or something you set up on your land. Create something better and bigger than these drama (gosh I was going to say queens but that would upset some friends of mine, and beasts would be kinda on the nose but maybe offensive too...) anyway, those idiots. From my experience of you on these forums, you would be a good leader and organizer in whatever you do. And as you move on to create something larger and better, it becomes very clear at the end of the day just who is who. As a content creator, you know a lot of stuff that you can share and you communicate well and obviously to me have a good heart. Maybe its time to move to the next level for you in SL.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
05-16-2007 05:58
Seams angel decided to bring his false accusations to public eye. Hes now posted on his group (which contains a lot of sim owners and security workers all around SL) that he say I'm actively involved in the PN. seriously why would i turn my back on the community i helped grow for 2 1/2 years to join a bunch of lulling idiots? i updated my blog with the info i gathered about it. I can't believe this at all. -.- Somebody needs to do something about angel. I've already abuse reported him for slander, but knowing Linden labs lack of drive to read them, i doubt much will happen regarding it.
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Aislinn Jewell
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05-16-2007 06:13
Hi Yiffy,
I just read your blog.........and your RL home situation.
I just wanted you to know I am praying for you.
I know how hard life can be at times, so If you ever need a friend, just to sit and talk with. Please don't hesitate to contact me.
Hugs
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Alazarin Mondrian
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05-16-2007 07:27
Yiffy, I know you're a good person. It looks like someone or group of people are out to frame you up for one reason or another. You may be one small purple wolf, but walk tall and don't let mental midgets grind you down. I've had all sorts of false accusations thrown at me in my time in RL & SL. Generally I ignore them as any sort of response often plays into their court. In extreme cases I've had to take legal advice and action.

If someone or a group of people seek to undermine me or cause me trouble in RL or SL, I blank them out and render them as un-persons in my life. Not always the best course of action but it gives me the space I need to get on with my life. I've had to start over countless times in RL & SL... not much fun but sometimes it's the only solution.

BTW, I hope your family get the house insurance thing sorted out. That sounds odd tho.... surely paying the mortgage / rent / lease is sufficient?
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Yiffy Yaffle
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05-16-2007 08:17
Thanks guys. As someone once told me, "we all have to suffer the burdens of life, but those who thrive to continue doing what is right will be rewarded in the end". I fear that i may lose my account if Linden Lab chooses to believe him over me. Because i know i must have been ARed by now. And that is the least of my problems. More importantly i may lose my home. Quite a few people know me in SL, and know that i never leave my own areas. I used to camp in serenity woods guarding it 204/7 watching for griefers. Even back in the forest before we moved... I even guarded the sim against anshe so that i may warn the others when she came to collect dept (using that loosely lol). I suffered the burden of losing countless days of sleep to make sure these sims were safe. During the griefer attacks i could have been off playing a RP game, but I stuck around to watch the place. Why would i join what i fight against? Nobody ever appreciates what good things people do apparently. As stated on other current topics, there are people who go out of their way to make other peoples lives miserable.
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