we-ell .. the local druids have a bit of a knees-up up the road from me at Stonehenge 

Hmm i heard u Wiltshire folks got up to strange things at certain times of the year

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12-05-2006 07:40
we-ell .. the local druids have a bit of a knees-up up the road from me at Stonehenge ![]() Hmm i heard u Wiltshire folks got up to strange things at certain times of the year ![]() _____________________
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12-05-2006 07:44
Hmm i heard u Wiltshire folks got up to strange things at certain times of the year ![]() aww not me m'lud .. I do it all year round ![]() |
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12-05-2006 10:24
Hint: It's NOT about getting lots more plastic crap under a dead tree to stash in your garage. I put clothes under my tree so it's cotton too! My tree is fake so it never lived and I don't have a garage. Actually, Christmas in it's current form by giving gifts wasn't about Jesus in the long run. Saint Nikolas (Santa Claus was derived when the children couldn't pronounce his name separately and did it more fluidly.) started the real tradition of gifts, when he would dress up and leave items for random people. Some say it was round bags of gold (which leads to the ball decor on trees) others say it was items of use. Saint Nikolas inherited his money from his wealthy parents and spent his entire life giving it away, in the name of Christ and his deep devotion to religion. Saint Nikolas was the true and original philanthropist. Also, he's a saint of the sailors and if you look in some of the oldest sea going hymns, they pray to him for safety in times of peril. He's also supposedly drip mana. ![]() _____________________
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12-07-2006 03:34
If I am correct that was Roman celebration (December 21th). The celebration I am pointing at is more a North European celebration and decorating our house with green (Christmas tree and alike) find here it origin. The Christmas tree tradition is a Victorian invention. I was somewhat irritated by a post in another forum here announcing a new fantasy role-playing sim, and requesting all visitors to come appropriately dressed in c. 15thC costume. So I made an effort and ran up some nice wizardly robes to look the part, and what do I find? Christmas trees! Victoriana! There's even a grand piano! Well, if they can't be bothered to make the sim look the part for FRP, then why should anyone else be bothered? |
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12-07-2006 04:24
The Christmas three as object maybe is, but the decorating a house with green brances and leaves is not.
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12-07-2006 05:22
I've never understood christmas trees.
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12-07-2006 05:42
Considering that most sims have been choked with Christmas trees and Santas since mid-November, when Christmas does actually come, it's hard to see how anyone will be able to tell. Just like RL then. |
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12-07-2006 05:44
I have to ask how much of this is just commercialism and materialism. You want a real Christmas event? Then you will recreate a stable with horses, goats, and hay, and a model of the Christ child with a golden halo around it, and a star glowing in the sky... Ohhhhh, sorry, I'm losing 90% of the people, who seem to have no idea what the holiday is for anymore. ![]() Hint: It's NOT about getting lots more plastic crap under a dead tree to stash in your garage. If you're a Christian, act like one. Otherwise butt the hell out -- it's not meant to be a moneymaking venture for you. And no, I'm not a Christian either. ![]() . You're aware that Jesus was born in the spring right? I mean, Christmas should be in March. They don't have lambs in winter, even in the middle-east. Think about it. |
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12-07-2006 08:16
The Christmas three as object maybe is, but the decorating a house with green brances and leaves is not. However, the subject being here complained of is Christmas trees, complete with glass balls, tinsel, etc, which do not fit in a cod-medieval fantasy. Just like RL then. Not quite. At least where I live, ordinary people wait until Christmas is actually close before putting up their trees and decorations. It's the stores that have everything up in mid-November, in the hope of trying to coax people into spending more money. |
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12-07-2006 08:45
I don't celebrate solstice, christmas, chanukah, julfest, wihen nahten, kwanzaa, bônenkai / ômisoka, saturnalia or even x-mas™.
Sure, it's always nice when such festivities bring the whole family together, but I rather pass on that since most family members behave particularly peculiar at this time of the year, quoting odd things from one of the scariest books I've ever read. Whenever I open it, I happen to look at lines like "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" or "If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman...they shall surely be put to death", so I'm not very fond of this book. Also, I feel awkward and embarrassed by their overall christmas behaviour; I always fear they might braid bones into their hair and start to dance around the decorated tree. Nothing against a 21st century family get-together though, without any archaic rites. |
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12-07-2006 09:54
Don't really care what you do, just don't call it Winterval, Winter festival, Holiday season, Winter holiday or any of the other feeble alternatives, IT'S CHRISSSSSTMASSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!! (thankyou Noddy) - U2 Not originally ... the celebration is older than christianity ... if the bible is correct .. christ was born in the spring when christian love to celebrate his death. Why only celebrate what is a minor relegion in the world says we HAVE to celbrate? The only christians that are at least honest about it ... are the jehovah witnesses ... who recognize that it was a wonderful pagan holiday that was stolen and truth-twisted into a so-called christian celebration. |
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12-07-2006 10:52
Not originally ... the celebration is older than christianity ... if the bible is correct .. christ was born in the spring when christian love to celebrate his death. Why only celebrate what is a minor relegion in the world says we HAVE to celbrate? The only christians that are at least honest about it ... are the jehovah witnesses ... who recognize that it was a wonderful pagan holiday that was stolen and truth-twisted into a so-called christian celebration. Same with easter. Originally it was a spring celebration to honor the germanic and norse goddess Eostre / Ostara. A fertility goddess and also the deity that made the sun rise up in the morning. Eostre / Ostara was the namegiver for both the easter rites (german: Ostern) as well as the direction of the sunrise (east or german: Osten). The rites to placate Eostre in order to yield a large crop often involved eggs as well as hares or rabbits, depending on the region. Eggs, as a symbol of fertility, were buried in the ground, rabbits (another fertility symbol) were sacrificed and/or eaten - the origins of the easter bunny. Late in the evening large piles of wood were lit and people gathered around the fires to have a nice orgy (similar to the celtic Beltane fires). In Germany, we still have the tradition of those "easter fires" (Osterfeuer), although we now leave out the part about uninhibited sex with random people during the whole night, thanks to christianization. It's a shame, imho ![]() |
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12-27-2006 18:28
I have to ask how much of this is just commercialism and materialism. You want a real Christmas event? Then you will recreate a stable with horses, goats, and hay, and a model of the Christ child with a golden halo around it, and a star glowing in the sky... Ohhhhh, sorry, I'm losing 90% of the people, who seem to have no idea what the holiday is for anymore. ![]() Hint: It's NOT about getting lots more plastic crap under a dead tree to stash in your garage. If you're a Christian, act like one. Otherwise butt the hell out -- it's not meant to be a moneymaking venture for you. And no, I'm not a Christian either. ![]() . well, you've managed to alienate 100% of me, with -both- ends of your 'argument' (of one ![]() _____________________
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12-27-2006 19:02
If I am correct that was Roman celebration (December 21th). The celebration I am pointing at is more a North European celebration and decorating our house with green (Christmas tree and alike) find here it origin. Christmas was from origin not a Christian celebration. The chance that the day that Jesus was born was really December 25th is really small (if he has existed at all, but that is another discussion and not one we should have here I think). Morwen Actual Birth date was in Early November i believe but i Know for a Fact the year must be Offset by Seven years in order to place it within the reign of Herod the Great, and at the time of the Roman Census at the same time. I have the actual day, and year in a Book at home, I'll Post it Later as i am at work now. Oh, BTW (if he has existed at all, but that is another discussion and not one we should have here I think). If one completely Ignores the Christian accounts there is Still plenty of corroborative evidence as to his existance. Remember he WAS born during the years of the Roman Census and his Birth Was recorded in Roman Colonial records as were records of his trial and execution. Remember the Romans were an Imperial Power, and as such, Fanatical record keepers. You are all quite right however that what we celebrate Now is an amalgum of Celtic Pagan, Roman Pantheistic, and Christian traditions. The Historical reasons for this are Many, But when all the Nit-Picking is said and done does it REALLY matter what the reasons are, as long as the Celebration brings people together, and causes them to cease, even for a Few Hours, being outstandingly Sh*tty to each other? Angel. |
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12-27-2006 22:05
...But when all the Nit-Picking is said and done does it REALLY matter what the reasons are, as long as the Celebration brings people together... Couldn't have put it better my self, and on that note, i am going to lock the thread (it is off topic for this forum). _____________________
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