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How do we stop these 'Hunger' bites?

Gabriele Graves
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07-28-2009 13:39
From: Amaranthim Talon
Does that make me an honorary Blood Doll? :D
No, just a donor I am afraid. We drink directly from dolls and they are bonded to either specific individual or the group. It can be arranged however, it that is your desire... :D
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07-28-2009 13:41
From: Gabriele Graves
No, just a donor I am afraid. We drink directly from dolls and they are bonded to either specific individual or the group. It can be arranged however, it that is your desire... :D

Thanks but I am as bonded as I can possibly be already though he hasn't up to now needed my blood :D
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07-28-2009 13:43
from this day forward i own all bloodline spamps that have ever bitten anyone that was unaware of the actual bite consequences..
In turn freeing the souls of their dammed and condemning the spamps to a life of being nothing more than sweet little butterflies till i see fit to let them go..I own them now and they can't do anything to get away..unless they want to buy my stake through the heart remedy that will cost them a kabillion and one L$ :p

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07-28-2009 16:21
From: Wolwaner Jervil
A bit of information that I've got:

http://slbloodlines.com is the bloodlines website. You can search every name there so if you suspect someone take a look.

Wearing the garlic necklace adds you to the database as someone who isn't intersted in the game. Users of the HUD will see an associated message and leave you alone.
You can remove the necklace immediately, there is no need to wear it all times.
Reactivation is possible by wearing the necklace again and clicking it.

Garlic necklaces are available at various places.

Now how to stop them: Wear the necklace to get removed from the database.

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actually, and not to be rude(but it will seem that way anyway), if there is a game adding people and or has ninja biting involved WITHOUT the bitees permission, it can be perceived as harassment. no one should have to purchase, free or not, an item just so they don't have to be involved in a game they have no desire to participate in in the first place.
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07-29-2009 01:33
From: Kazimir MacMoragh
OK, I acknowledge that being bugged about it wherever you go (like BloodLines) is extremely annoying. But my impression of this is that it's completeley invisible to the "target" avatar.


How do you mean? I've had countless people send me an offer to bite me, without so much as saying hello. Sometimes they are so far away on the sim I can't even see them. They might trip someone up and get someone clicking through group announcements, and then oops, you have to pay to be removed. Doesn't sound like a scam to you? It's spam AND a scam as far as I am concerned.

From: someone
I also understand that some people don't like the fact that they are in some "database" somewhere without it being disclosed to them, but if people feel that strongly about it I don't understand why they are on the grid in the first place. I'm sure that there are plenty of mall or store owners that have logged the fact that I entered their store (if only to get a unique visitor count), or people that I've traded IMs with who have logged the communication, etc.


I don't understand the thinking that goes something like, because these things are bad too this one isn't bad. Especially when it's not really a tidy analogy.

If a store owner has a visitor list, that usually never leaves their inventory if they even keep track at all past just reading it to see how many visitors came in. It does not wind up on the internet let alone without people knowing so first.

I agree that logging IM *can* be creepy. I've had things copied and pasted back to me MONTHS later, and I thought it was creepy as all get-out. I mean, I know some people log IM for their own legal protection, or because they didn't realise what it really is, and so on. But why would anyone want to reread it months later, for something innocuous. (In this case it was a SLurl of my old home that I didn't realise they'd had or kept.) I'd really rather not know about someone memorising my old chat, or have it flung back at me without warning, no matter how harmless, but that's just me. At least, though, you Do have ToS working in your favor in that regard. If that person copies and pastes the text to anyone else, or online, you have recourse.

With Bloodlines, you got no recourse except their stupid garlic necklace and then you are part of their game even then.

But I think the fact people don't like it and don't want it should be enough. Why should THEY be the ones to justify, when they did not instigate the exchange?
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07-29-2009 02:40
If someone asks to bite me I keep talking to them about it in IM until they mute me. :cool:

Pep (A cruel and unusual punishment! :eek: )

PS It is a variation of a technique that I use on cold callers on the phone.
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Lota Lyon
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07-29-2009 04:15
From: Innula Zenovka

I suppose it makes a good game for people who do a lot of camping. Come to think of it, it's a use for traffic bots.. the vamp just needs to find places that use them, and it's lunchtime. The possibilities are endless.


LOL
Onagh Ashbourne
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07-29-2009 05:32
From: Maggie McArdle
actually, and not to be rude(but it will seem that way anyway), if there is a game adding people and or has ninja biting involved WITHOUT the bitees permission, it can be perceived as harassment. no one should have to purchase, free or not, an item just so they don't have to be involved in a game they have no desire to participate in in the first place.


I agree.
In trying to understand why it p**ses me off I think maybe its the RP side of it thats got me bugged.
My character would be murderously mad as hell and there would be fighting.. incidentally if they killed me in a fight and RP'd the outcome properly then they would be entitled to take my blood and I wouldn't think anything of it.
Lately I am IC a lot and maybe its a bit of crossover effect but it's also happening in the rp sim I live in.
And if they need to be 20 metres away then why did that guy practially jump on me? maybe he needed more excitement than just clicking a button on the hud?
And I used to think the bloodlines bite requests were annoying.. now its the whole 'non permission thing that's worse to me.
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07-29-2009 05:33
From: Pserendipity Daniels
If someone asks to bite me I keep talking to them about it in IM until they mute me. :cool:

Pep (A cruel and unusual punishment! :eek: )

PS It is a variation of a technique that I use on cold callers on the phone.


You should make tapes.
This would be way more fun than just hanging up.
Limonella Sorbet
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07-29-2009 05:38
From: Onagh Ashbourne
You should make tapes.
This would be way more fun than just hanging up.


Some people devote websites to this type of thing.

http://www.keepersoflists.org/index.php?lid=624
Innula Zenovka
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07-29-2009 06:09
From: Onagh Ashbourne
You should make tapes.
This would be way more fun than just hanging up.

http://www.coldcallcomedy.com/
Kazimir MacMoragh
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07-29-2009 07:50
From: Clarissa Lowell
How do you mean? I've had countless people send me an offer to bite me, without so much as saying hello. Sometimes they are so far away on the sim I can't even see them. They might trip someone up and get someone clicking through group announcements, and then oops, you have to pay to be removed. Doesn't sound like a scam to you? It's spam AND a scam as far as I am concerned.


Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was refering to game "The Hunger", not "Bloodlines", which is what this thread started out about. Bloodlines players are the ones that spam you with bite requests, and I completely agree that they are annoying as hell.


From: Clarissa Lowell

I don't understand the thinking that goes something like, because these things are bad too this one isn't bad. Especially when it's not really a tidy analogy.

If a store owner has a visitor list, that usually never leaves their inventory if they even keep track at all past just reading it to see how many visitors came in. It does not wind up on the internet let alone without people knowing so first.

I agree that logging IM *can* be creepy. I've had things copied and pasted back to me MONTHS later, and I thought it was creepy as all get-out. I mean, I know some people log IM for their own legal protection, or because they didn't realise what it really is, and so on. But why would anyone want to reread it months later, for something innocuous. (In this case it was a SLurl of my old home that I didn't realise they'd had or kept.) I'd really rather not know about someone memorising my old chat, or have it flung back at me without warning, no matter how harmless, but that's just me. At least, though, you Do have ToS working in your favor in that regard. If that person copies and pastes the text to anyone else, or online, you have recourse.

With Bloodlines, you got no recourse except their stupid garlic necklace and then you are part of their game even then.

But I think the fact people don't like it and don't want it should be enough. Why should THEY be the ones to justify, when they did not instigate the exchange?


I agree it's not a tidy analogy (few of them are after all). My only point was that in my opinion there are far more intrusive things in SL to be worried about privacy wise than an internet database that simply says "player X was near avatar Y". Unless that database also provides details of the interaction (the region they are in, etc.), then really all that tells someone "outside" of SL is that avatar Y exists and logs in. (again, *not* talking about Bloodlines bite requests, which as stated, are annoying).
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07-29-2009 10:05
Oh. People were discussing both in the thread.

I don't know much about Hunger.
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07-29-2009 10:11
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07-29-2009 11:05
From: Onagh Ashbourne
I agree.
In trying to understand why it p**ses me off I think maybe its the RP side of it thats got me bugged.
My character would be murderously mad as hell and there would be fighting.. incidentally if they killed me in a fight and RP'd the outcome properly then they would be entitled to take my blood and I wouldn't think anything of it.
Lately I am IC a lot and maybe its a bit of crossover effect but it's also happening in the rp sim I live in.
And if they need to be 20 metres away then why did that guy practially jump on me? maybe he needed more excitement than just clicking a button on the hud?
And I used to think the bloodlines bite requests were annoying.. now its the whole 'non permission thing that's worse to me.


the jump on/pounce animation may be part of another vamp/rp thing. there are so many i lose track. i used to, or tried to anyway, rp on a sim that had Vampire rp involved in a few storylines. i wonder if they are still around......

back on topic: even then, i would still be po'd because i did NOT asked to be involved in THEIR rp. it's one thing to be on a sim with Vampire Rp and expect to be bitten. its another to be minding your own buisness and finding out you are part of some vampire rp, w/o knowing how the hell it happened.
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Clarissa Lowell
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07-29-2009 11:08
That's a good point.

I consider it kinda rude to rope anyone into roleplay outside a roleplay sim.

I do not count the roleplay that an avatar does as a normal course of events (as rude.) For instance, roleplaying another gender, age, species (is okay.) I refer to storyline-dependent types of roleplay or cause and effect scenarios.
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07-29-2009 19:20
From: Maggie McArdle
the jump on/pounce animation may be part of another vamp/rp thing. there are so many i lose track. i used to, or tried to anyway, rp on a sim that had Vampire rp involved in a few storylines. i wonder if they are still around......

back on topic: even then, i would still be po'd because i did NOT asked to be involved in THEIR rp. it's one thing to be on a sim with Vampire Rp and expect to be bitten. its another to be minding your own buisness and finding out you are part of some vampire rp, w/o knowing how the hell it happened.


This!

Also thanks for the cold call url's! funny stuff :)
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07-29-2009 22:27
From: Kazimir MacMoragh
My only point was that in my opinion there are far more intrusive things in SL to be worried about privacy wise than an internet database that simply says "player X was near avatar Y". Unless that database also provides details of the interaction (the region they are in, etc.), then really all that tells someone "outside" of SL is that avatar Y exists and logs in.



I agree. And the hypothetical Internet publication of lists of shop customers would be far more intrusive and disturbing.

This 'lists of those bitten' thing keeps reminding me of Mark McKinney's old "I crush your head" character---the guy who'd hold his fingers up to frame people off in the distance, and then fantasize that his fingers coming together was actually Working His Will on those people.

The point being: it wasn't.
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07-29-2009 23:19
From: Destiny Niles
Oh I thought we where talking about chickens now.
But bloodlines have a garlic necklace to solve your problem.

http://www.slbloodlines.com/instructions/garlic


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02-02-2010 17:57
Well, how's this sound? I'm co-owner of a club was told the other night by a few different people that they couldn't come to an event at my club because someone there was waiting there to kill them. Now this game has affected my business. I contacted at Hunger manager and asked how I could make my club a neutral or safe zone. I was told I could buy a vendor to place at my club but they weren't selling any more right now because they were going to turn them all off soon. So the owners of the Hunger game are resorting to extortion and then, of all things, can turn this protection on and off at will? The only way to opt out of Hunger is to pay them it seems. How fair is that? I am a Bloodlines player and the rules at my club are not just for Hunger but for Bloodlines and every other RP system. I want no killing at my club and everyone has cooperated except the people behind Hunger and they want me to grease their palm. They even went so far as to tell me that if I eject or ban any of thier members for violating my posted club rules, on MY property, they will AR me for TOS Violation. WHAT is that all about???
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02-02-2010 19:26
From: Jenni Carfield
They even went so far as to tell me that if I eject or ban any of thier members for violating my posted club rules, on MY property, they will AR me for TOS Violation. WHAT is that all about???
THAT is about fraud, misrepresentation, extortion, and plain-and-fancy bullying. AR them and include the log of that conversation, right now.
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02-02-2010 20:37
i see this come up a lot 'yeah but when you go to shops or malls there are visitor trackers etc'

there is a huge difference to me between a visitor tracker i know might be there, at a place i chose to go of my own accord, and what amounts to someone wearing a 'visitor tracker' recording -anything- about me at all without my informed consent to do so. how harmless it is, or is not, compared to anything else has zero relevance. consent does. i understand that i have a limited expectation of privacy in public places but the only way to hold the ground we have in regards to such things is to wage war on any incursions on that space.
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02-03-2010 03:09
From: Amaranthim Talon
Should store owners put out little dishes of blood to attract them and drive up traffic?
:D

My store bots are not there to game anything. They are blood donors. They give pints and pints of nourishment every day to the shy and needy. More a public service than anything else really I would think.
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