The Corruption of Nekoism
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Jig Chippewa
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12-24-2007 21:16
I am gonna invite comment on being Neko. I read the thread about Nekos "below" but I think many people are not sure about being Neko. Others just get annoyed when it is suggested that a person IS Neko. But being Neko is very much in harmony with SL. It is NOT being furry. It is a choice of lifestyle and reflects an emotional response to the Sl world. I base my Neko state of being upon Christopher Smart's visionary and beautiful poem "My Cat Jeoffrey". Are any Nekos out there who would like to comment on our real philosophy? By the by, why do Goreans NOT like us??
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12-24-2007 21:57
From: Jig Chippewa By the by, why do Goreans NOT like us?? I think its because most log in early in the morning before they have had their coffee, and you know how people get when they haven't had their coffee! Actually, I think its just due to how cool nekos are, their jealous!
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12-24-2007 22:35
From: Jig Chippewa By the by, why do Goreans NOT like us?? Do Goreans like anybody?
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Lana Tomba
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12-24-2007 22:41
The pit fall to forming a group of like minded individuals who all scratch the same..wear the same ears and tails, chains and collars whiskers and paws or rainbow flags..is that In their attempt to make their own niche they wind up alienating everyone else.
I've not once shown up to a furry event in human form and been welcomed with open arms...not once has a neko(or group of nekos) standing in their little grunge outfits with piecrcings ever taken it upon themselves to speak out side of their group.
Same goes with Vamps and yes the rest of the lot too. If we would all remeber we are universally "human" behind these pixelated avatars...it might help to close those "gaps" you speak of.
Ultimately..it seems that the "real" goal of forming or finding your niche is not to have a sense of belonging..but make sure all those not like you have that sense of not belonging.
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12-25-2007 01:47
From: Jannae Karas Do Goreans like anybody? While it isn't my thing the few I have met seem quite friendly.
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12-25-2007 03:02
I don't know if Goreans especially hate neko (note, no 's' on the plural, if you're being a purist about it), just that neko don't fit in their world. John Norman didn't write them into his books, so they don't exist in the Gorean gameworld/lifestyle. Neither do vampires, elves, pixies & furries, I believe. The same sort of thing as someone running a 19th century political intrigue RP banning cyber-armour & railguns.
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Denise Bonetto
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12-25-2007 03:04
From: Jig Chippewa By the by, why do Goreans NOT like us??
I don't think it's the case of them not liking nekos, more that the rp sims don't allow anything that doesn't exist in Gor. Having nekos and furries running around would detract from the RP. Obviously like any group, different people with different likes and dislikes on top of that. My main account is a neko vampire, I also have an alt who is exploring RP in Gor.
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12-25-2007 05:39
From: Denise Bonetto I don't think it's the case of them not liking nekos, more that the rp sims don't allow anything that doesn't exist in Gor. Having nekos and furries running around would detract from the RP. Obviously like any group, different people with different likes and dislikes on top of that.
My main account is a neko vampire, I also have an alt who is exploring RP in Gor. Double plus good. I concur, most people in SL that characterize themselves in Gor, as a neko or furry tend to be fairly open minded and friendly. If anything, it is a small proportion of human form avatars that tend to be most antsy to something different. Most Gor sims just ask you to wear a visitor tag, and I have seen furries wearing them. On the other hand, if you have invested in building a Gor sim and paid maintenance fees for a couple of years then that represents a product that someone has paid maybe $8000 US on, and frankly, can do whatever the hell they want with it. ~Snowman~
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Jig Chippewa
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12-25-2007 05:43
From: Snowman Jiminy Double plus good. I concur, most people in SL that characterize themselves in Gor, as a neko or furry tend to be fairly open minded and friendly. If anything, it is a small proportion of human form avatars that tend to be most antsy to something different. Most Gor sims just ask you to wear a visitor tag, and I have seen furries wearing them.
On the other hand, if you have invested in building a Gor sim and paid maintenance fees for a couple of years then that represents a product that someone has paid maybe $8000 US on, and frankly, can do whatever the hell they want with it.
~Snowman~ That is true. I agree.
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12-25-2007 05:53
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12-25-2007 05:59
i had never thought of this. i wonder how many nekos think of themselves as part of a group. i am quite vamp myself, yet i have never RPed or hung out in vamp sims. i just go about my usual tasks and am pretty much unaware that people may look at me and think i may be a vampire. and maybe thats why ive never experienced shunning or whatnot. From: Lana Tomba The pit fall to forming a group of like minded individuals who all scratch the same..wear the same ears and tails, chains and collars whiskers and paws or rainbow flags..is that In their attempt to make their own niche they wind up alienating everyone else.
I've not once shown up to a furry event in human form and been welcomed with open arms...not once has a neko(or group of nekos) standing in their little grunge outfits with piecrcings ever taken it upon themselves to speak out side of their group.
Same goes with Vamps and yes the rest of the lot too. If we would all remeber we are universally "human" behind these pixelated avatars...it might help to close those "gaps" you speak of.
Ultimately..it seems that the "real" goal of forming or finding your niche is not to have a sense of belonging..but make sure all those not like you have that sense of not belonging.
~Lana Tomba
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12-25-2007 09:37
From: Jig Chippewa why do Goreans NOT like us?? Because you are foot soldiers and spies for the evil Furry army. Put on a hat, shave your whiskers, and tuck your tail in and you can mix with Gorean society. Spying on them and revealing their plans to your Furry Overlords. This age old battle has raged for eons. It will only end when one side has exterminated the other. Which since death in SL only lasts as long as it takes you to tp home, this war will last longer than the war on terrists. Don't listen to the above posters, they are all 5th columnists wanting one side or the other to lay down their arms. Fight, Fight Fight Furries and Goreans.
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12-25-2007 11:47
From: Lana Tomba Ultimately..it seems that the "real" goal of forming or finding your niche is not to have a sense of belonging..but make sure all those not like you have that sense of not belonging. I suppose that's one way to look at it... can't say I agree.... groups come together and form bonds based on commonality, not as a way of excluding someone else, but as a way of sharing their common views. this does naturally lead to people without those views not having the same bonds... for instance, if I'm in a group of known friends, and someone new shows up, and no one knows them or introduces them, then I don't have much bond to them and perhaps not any commonality... now if they introduce themselves, join in the convo etc I've at least got the impression that they're friendly and interested in getting to know me and my friends which is a good start... otherwise :  hrug:: they're just another unknown random observer
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12-25-2007 12:31
Lots of good points and i believe Lana said some things that are true, but could use a little more explaination.
In the wild -- that is, open public area not claimed by any group -- I have seldom met any click or group that was not polite and respectful as a whole. I have been shopping for a formal gown to wear with my Racoon AV and got advce from a Gorean male and his slave in silks. No odd coments, just helpful advise on which dress would go with the dark and light markings of my fur.
However, I don't go to Gorean areas dressed like a raccoon. I think it would be impolite. They have banded together to play a common game and talking animals only serve to break their immersion.
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12-25-2007 13:01
How is a bunch of people who wear kitty ears and tails and stuff corrupting nekoism? Did it become a religion and I just don't know it?
This is not meant to offend those who do wear kitty ears and tails and stuff! I think it's really cool. I just don't get where it got all dogmatic (get it? DOGmatic, haha) and rule-bound.
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12-25-2007 13:59
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12-25-2007 14:03
*cough* http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=238429&sort=Pictures.PictureID+desc&Name=foehn+BreedI wear wolf ears and wolf tail as a skin half the time, dressed up & not and love it just as much as ppls do being nekos!  ...just wish their were more ppls that did, more stores catered to the theme, some do, some! are happy to make you stuff [thank you thank you!] and wish jerkoffs didn't always equate wolf ears w/ doggy girls or pony girls; while they are a fine group of beautiful ppls and bla bla bla ...I am not one.
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12-25-2007 14:51
From: Oryx Tempel How is a bunch of people who wear kitty ears and tails and stuff corrupting nekoism? Did it become a religion and I just don't know it?
This is not meant to offend those who do wear kitty ears and tails and stuff! I think it's really cool. I just don't get where it got all dogmatic (get it? DOGmatic, haha) and rule-bound. We went through this when we had the spate of Gor bashing threads awhile back, Vampires ridiculing them while claiming their way was a legitimate lifestyle, as well as certain High Horse BDSM'ers also piling on. *I'l leave the symbolism of that line to you. I've had a full bottle of Riesling with dinner as well as several Scotches* Now we take aim at the Cat people. I don't understand the whole Neko thing, just as I didn't understand Gor. But you know what? I really don't care. They aren't harming me. If that's their bag, I say let them get in it. *When did we get so judgemental?*
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12-25-2007 15:19
From: Lana Tomba Ultimately..it seems that the "real" goal of forming or finding your niche is not to have a sense of belonging..but make sure all those not like you have that sense of not belonging. Oh how jaded. The main goal of forming a group is to create a sense of community. With Millions of people in this virtual universe groups are a good thing. Yes, many choose to 'wander the earth' and not join any groups, but there are many that enjoy a sense of belonging and knowing that there is a good conversation just a click away. Yes there are times when the Neko Community members are just too cool for the outside public. I always say hello and start the conversation off - I feel its worth the ffort.
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12-25-2007 17:05
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12-25-2007 17:40
From: Jig Chippewa By the by, why do Goreans NOT like us?? Gorean Sims are heavy RP places, you will also not fit in well there as a robot, cowboy, dragon or werewolf. Other sims have similar rules about attire of visitors. Respect their roleplay I guess but they also must respect yours when they are in general non specific sims. I've had arguements with some Goreans and others insisting they are "in character" on my right to insist they remove their weapons entering the club too.
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12-25-2007 17:47
Well, I have never been spoken to ever by a Neko. They seem to like to stand and do their own thing and I am not one to interrupt. I have lots of Gorean friends, zoophile, bdsm and even the odd vamp friend so am open to meeting anyone  .
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12-25-2007 17:50
From: Brenda Connolly We went through this when we had the spate of Gor bashing threads awhile back, Vampires ridiculing them while claiming their way was a legitimate lifestyle, as well as certain High Horse BDSM'ers also piling on. *I'l leave the symbolism of that line to you. I've had a full bottle of Riesling with dinner as well as several Scotches* Now we take aim at the Cat people. I don't understand the whole Neko thing, just as I didn't understand Gor. But you know what? I really don't care. They aren't harming me. If that's their bag, I say let them get in it.
*When did we get so judgemental?* Oh heck, I don't care what people do. I just thought it was sort of weird. The OP seems to say (over in the other Neko thread) that there are a core group of Neko avatars and that all the others are imposters or fakers or wannabes. Like that a True Neko has some higher calling or something. I dunno. Last I checked they got invented by anime artists and were never a religion. Hence the wondering about "The Corruption of Nekoism." What's there to corrupt?
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12-25-2007 17:54
From: Oryx Tempel Oh heck, I don't care what people do. I just thought it was sort of weird. The OP seems to say (over in the other Neko thread) that there are a core group of Neko avatars and that all the others are imposters or fakers or wannabes. Like that a True Neko has some higher calling or something. I dunno. Last I checked they got invented by anime artists and were never a religion. Hence the wondering about "The Corruption of Nekoism." What's there to corrupt? Infidel! The true believers will be knocking on your door early one morning to give you tracts.
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12-25-2007 19:14
From: Oryx Tempel Oh heck, I don't care what people do. I just thought it was sort of weird. The OP seems to say (over in the other Neko thread) that there are a core group of Neko avatars and that all the others are imposters or fakers or wannabes. Like that a True Neko has some higher calling or something. I dunno. Last I checked they got invented by anime artists and were never a religion. Hence the wondering about "The Corruption of Nekoism." What's there to corrupt? I'm with you, sister. I was agreeing with. Somehow I left that part out. It must have been when I was kicking Chris in the nuts.
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