What's up with Second Citizen?
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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Join date: 14 Nov 2003
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05-22-2007 10:53
Anyone know what's going on with Second Citizen? It seems to be down: http://forums.secondcitizen.com/"This Account Has Been Suspended." Last time this message was up, it was because someone issued a DMCA claim; I really don't like it when they get used as weapons. Anyone got the inside scoop? Regards, -Flip
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Parker McTeague
dubious
Join date: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 198
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05-22-2007 11:01
i caught a message saying they're upgrading the database or something like that. i don't remember exactly, but it wasn't something that made me worry.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-22-2007 11:03
From: Parker McTeague i caught a message saying they're upgrading the database or something like that. i don't remember exactly, but it wasn't something that made me worry. Thanks for the nose news, Parker! 
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Susanne Pascale
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
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05-22-2007 11:03
Evidently it is some sort of technical issue. Like the previous poster, it was nothing that made me fret. I think they will get it sorted out and back to normal, whatever that is, soon.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-22-2007 11:04
Wups, this just in: "Group Notice From: Sansarya Caligari Sorry, guys, someone filed an abuse report on SC at Mother FIC's service provider. Yes, he does know SC is down. Waiting to hear back from the service provider, please stand by.  " So yes, it was some jackass using the DMCA as a weapon again. *sigh*
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Susanne Pascale
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05-22-2007 11:11
From: FlipperPA Peregrine Wups, this just in: "Group Notice From: Sansarya Caligari Sorry, guys, someone filed an abuse report on SC at Mother FIC's service provider. Yes, he does know SC is down. Waiting to hear back from the service provider, please stand by.  " So yes, it was some jackass using the DMCA as a weapon again. *sigh* Oh jeez. [I sigh too] I hate to display my ignorence, but most people know how stupid I am already...so...what is DMCA? thank you. Sooz
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Jen Kawaguichi
Registered User
Join date: 23 Jan 2007
Posts: 17
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Re: DMCA
05-22-2007 11:15
From: Susanne Pascale Oh jeez. [I sigh too] I hate to display my ignorence, but most people know how stupid I am already...so...what is DMCA?
thank you.
Sooz DMCA is the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. A pretty poorly executed U.S. law meant to protect copyrights in digital media, but badly abused. Here's a link to one of many sites talking about what's wrong with it. http://www.anti-dmca.org/whats-wrong.html
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Susanne Pascale
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 371
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05-22-2007 11:17
Thank you, Jen. I will check it out.
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Candie Apple
Senior Mumbler
Join date: 1 Apr 2003
Posts: 477
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05-22-2007 11:18
what kind of thing would be reported under dmca on a forum??
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Kristian Ming
Head Like A Hole
Join date: 5 Feb 2005
Posts: 404
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05-22-2007 11:20
Who was it? WHO? WHO?
UNLEASH
THE
HOUNDS
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-22-2007 11:20
The problem with the DMCA is when an action is filed, the ISP will often fire first and ask question later; in this case, take down the web site immediately to avoid "safe harbor" allegations, and restore after the fact.
Regards,
-Flip
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
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05-22-2007 11:21
From: Candie Apple what kind of thing would be reported under dmca on a forum?? I copyrighted question marks. Quit using them or I'll have this site taken down. 
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Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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05-22-2007 11:22
Since the bulk of SC is posted commentary, not content, it's hard to see how a DMCA report is anything other than griefing.
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Jen Kawaguichi
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Join date: 23 Jan 2007
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05-22-2007 11:23
From: Candie Apple what kind of thing would be reported under dmca on a forum?? As far as valid reports, if someone posted someone else's copyrighted code that would be a violation, or a graphic that contained the complete sheet music to a copyrighted song, or a copyrighted digital work of art. Those are all possibilities. But usually you contact the site first and say "Hey, so and so posted this thingy that belongs to me. Could you take care of it?" But instead they send a letter to the hosting provider, and the hosting provider doesn't even bother to look to see if it's a valid DMCA claim.
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Candie Apple
Senior Mumbler
Join date: 1 Apr 2003
Posts: 477
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05-22-2007 11:29
From: Taco Rubio I copyrighted question marks. Quit using them or I'll have this site taken down.   sorry!
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Mother Stuchka
MOTHER FIC
Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 24
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05-22-2007 11:29
Quick reply: This is not a DMCA like i suspected. A thread was reported to my hosts and the site taken down in haste because they freaked due to the tone of the message they received. I'm waiting on the site to come back up so i can move the thread elsewhere.
Will update here and on SC when it's back with some more details.
I'm sorry for the downtime...
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-22-2007 11:32
From: Mother Stuchka Quick reply: This is not a DMCA like i suspected. A thread was reported to my hosts and the site taken down in haste because they freaked due to the tone of the message they received. I'm waiting on the site to come back up so i can move the thread elsewhere.
Will update here and on SC when it's back with some more details.
I'm sorry for the downtime... Get an avatar, (*%$............. oh wait. 
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Soleil Mirabeau
eh?
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 995
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05-22-2007 11:35
Hounds indeed.
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Soleil Mirabeau
eh?
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 995
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05-22-2007 11:36
And why the hell did LL turn off the BB code?
Goddamnit.
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Peasan Kuu
Teh mean
Join date: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 6
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05-22-2007 11:43
Not to mention the persistent, willful abuse of 'You were always my favourite". 
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,772
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05-22-2007 11:44
Wow - I was worried, I should have known I'd find some of you guys somewhere. 
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Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 574
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05-22-2007 11:46
From: Rose Karuna Wow - I was worried, I should have known I'd find some of you guys somewhere.  The regulars are ambling in one by one. 
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Soleil Mirabeau
eh?
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 995
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05-22-2007 11:46
You can never get rid of us.
We're like the plague.
A hot, steamy sexy plague.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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05-22-2007 11:46
Seriously. Everyone's signatures look stupid! 
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1,206
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05-22-2007 11:50
Wow, SC spoiled me... miss my smilies  ans:
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