What are the guidelines agian?

Over the past couple of days I have seen some posts go on and on (and thats ok), however, I have seen some closed for no apparent reason. Other than the pat answer of "Strayed from topic"

Well, I actually read the guidelines and ran across the guidelines for the moderators and found this....

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Not one time when a forum was closed did I see any "refocus" from a moderator, or anyone being reminded to the pupose of the fourm.

Which if you read the Resident Answers description is exactly what they have been discussions of issues. I also spoke to a SL friend who's thread was closed and they do not know why!

They (moderators) are not suppose to use the post of moderator as an opportuniy to be-little or be cute, or be sarcastic. If you read some of the closers they have done just that.

But that's just my opinion.....What's yours??

I agree with you.

coco

Excerpt from the Resident Answers rules and purpose sticky:

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From Strife's post about the guidelines:


The Resident Answers rules sticky and Strife's summary are in the list of stickies at the top of the forum list.

Resident Answers forum sticky: /327/8d/138314/1.html

Strife's summary is at: /327/8d/138314/1.html

The Terms of Service are at http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php

The Forum Guidelines are at: /invalid_link.html

I think the mods would have a difficult time refocussing some of the threads and they probably don't have time. They are a little heavy handed at times but it's a difficult task they have and maybe by having a no nonsense policy they get their message across more efficiently.

I certainly don't envy the task they have to do.

If they don't have time then don't be one. If they don't like the work then don't be one. The point is THEY are not following the guidelines that were set out for them by Linden. They are NOT SUPPOSE to have a no nonsense policy. Then it would not be a FORUM.

Sounds like you are one or know one.

Come on you guys this doesn't bug you?

well - they need a general forum even if it says "enter at your own risk"

basically since they wont give us one - it defaulted to be in Resident Answers.

I agree. It has fallen to Resident Answers. The description has the word discussions??

Has it? I feel you're discussing something that's going on for a fact, I dont see your question or where do you require an answer.

Just my opinion

I haven't seen it here if at all maybe I wasn't watching, but some moderators love to get in the "last word" then if you try to address their comments of course you are somehow breaking a rule. Basically i consider it a new form of abuse like when a parent yells at their kid too much and gets slapped around if they say "but" and tries to offer explanation.

Its a sign of poor moderation unfortunately that type of moderator often becomes the norm in many forums and I hate watching it happens to others were some guy gets chastized and only had it happen to me a couple of times myself. Its simply to me anyhow a form of mental abuse. get the last word in say what you want and be as mean as you like and give the other person no opportunity to say anything they just have to take the put downs and accept them.

Anyhow its not right. Lock a thread fine, send a warning via pm fine lock a thread with a whole lot of nonsense at the ends is ground for abuse reporting the moderator. Although the last time I tried to complain about an abusive moderator locking threads and throwing insults in the locked commentary it turned out into the moderators nasty comments somehow being defended. I have no idea why.

But if I see it happen I have been known to Abuse report moderators in other games usually they calm down and start to be a bit more umm "tactful" when they close threads but its not always the case. It depends on the site and how they operate. Its probably worse in places where coworkers think that other coworkers can do no wrong

anyhow on this forum I have no real complaint. LOcked threads is fine some of them get really long and need to be locked because of that. Sometimes we are given latitude to open a few threads for fun. Although I must admit lately that mosto f the questions are started to be asked in the volunteer forums so if you login to forums you might want to check there for questions because newcomers are reposting there because sometimes they do get ignored here

If the last of the existing resmods gives up, the forums close. It's really that simple; the forums are an unwanted leftover from a better time when residents were encouraged to communicate.

I've seen some threads get closed that I feel shouldn't have, and some go on that shouldn't have, but overall I don't see any mod throwing a power trip.

If you can't stand any level of moderation, then the SecondCitizen forums would be a far better place for you, it's a non-stop flamefest with virtually no actual content.

My question was and still is (if you read the first post) What is your opinion? It is in the first thread.

It says we may discuss so lets discuss....{It being the guidelines in Resident Answers} I'm reading them are you?

Gave you my opinion
And no, I really dont care discussing anything with you

My opinion is that the guidelines, like the resmod program itself, are remnants from a time long past.

I'm not a mod nor do I know one but if you think you can do a better job then put your name forward to be one. It's easy to criticise, it's a lot harder to be constructive.

I wonder what would have happened if Torley hadn't talked them into giving us Resident Answers after General closed.

The last word thing sometimes sucks. Sometimes posts get closed prematurely, without being allowed to get back on track, or for the wrong reason. Sometimes posts just go friggin bizerk and go on and on with no hope in sight. Other than a few instances where I think they have screwed up, overall I think they are doing alright with the mess they sometimes have to deal with.

Who, apart from one particular resmod, ever said that? Cybin is back now so if God himself does do a flit it's not like there's nobody holding the reigns. The most absurd thing is that these forums are often unvisited by resmods for a couple of days at a time so when they *cough* he does finally arrive locking a handful of threads, we can usually think of many others that would have been far more worthy.

A couple of threads are still around that should have been locked over 30 hours ago. I bet they'll still be here in another 24.

As far as third party forums go, SC is the busiest of them all and a good external news source. If all you see is flames then maybe you're lurking in the wrong subforums.

and even more difficult to get a job as a resmod Ciaran. Plenty of people have volunteered, but they haven't taken any on since around April/May 2006.

Oh you meant like this?
Sample of how a recent Poll I took concerning sleep was closed.

Cute!
I believe the whole Forum could use some re-work. But considering all the other issues LL is juggling I think this is low on their list of priorities.

DK

I don't understand why, if a topic is so off-topic that it should be closed, why a resident moderator should be adding to that off-topic topic after he's deemed it off-topic.

I can't vote on this poll. I think the rezmods aren't draconian enough in closing threads by far.

I do think 'off-topic' can be subjective....

I also find it unfair to close a thread where the original poster had good intentions for the post to be enlightening or entertaining etc, and a few select add-on posters derailed the discussion. I also feel that just because some like to take discussions away from the original post the post can still be saved if someone else has something valuable or insightful to add. People do digress, often depending on the person or because of the nature of the subject, however once its locked... it's a dead subject, left to fall to the back pages where it will never be heard from again. Quite frankly I'll take reading an 'off topic' post about how we allow SL to interupt our sleep habits over another 'SL life sucks lately' post any day of the week. Sick of those....

eh no that wasn't verbally abusive? lol

I think you are not reading what I said. That was kinda cute but i'm talking about a moderator ripping into you while closing a thread putting you down and locking it. I have yet to see this here but it happens on other forums.

If they lock it they lock it that lock was fine so he put a song in the fact of the matter the thread didn't belong no the forum and everone knew it lol so your suprised its locked? i'm not?

Other then small talk it doesn't actually technically fulfill the criteria of this forum in fact neither does this thread. So eventually they do get locked. If your offended by that I think you need to rethink that ..

If they resort to pubilc humiliation and insulting people while locking its an issue, again that has not happened here from what I have seen..

Mine is *still* under consideration after who knows how long. I'm keeping it up because I'm curious if it will ever even be acknowledged.