Can this particular Land Extortion be stopped?
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Foolish Frost
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03-02-2007 04:58
I have a bit of advice. use a few prim trees to block it out.
It's simple, pleasing to the eye, and works much better than a wall.
This may not work if it's really up high, but then I just build my designs to make it where they can't be seen from inside the grounds or the building.
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Usagi Musashi
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03-02-2007 06:52
From: Beebo Brink Because their job is not to censor content. Unless the land use is in clear violation of the TOS -- such as the flagrant display of hard-core porn signs -- residents are free to do what they want with it.
Unfortunately, what many residents seem to want is UGLY. But that kind of "abuse" is purely subjective. well then so is your remark subject.............  a complete 360 degree though.... oh well 
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Parker McTeague
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03-02-2007 09:09
is there any legitimate reason to buy or sell a 16m plot besides advertising?
i admit i bought a few cheap ones for prims, but i would have been much happier with bigger plots if they were there; it was all i could find in the region.
wonder what would happen if LL disabled the sale of land below a certain threshold, or maybe put price caps on small land. i know, i'm a socialist or something now, but what's the downside?
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Annabelle Vandeverre
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03-02-2007 09:17
From: Parker McTeague is there any legitimate reason to buy or sell a 16m plot besides advertising? Yes - to make obscene profits through flipping.  Well you asked! I've flipped a few here and there to make a quick $20-25. Not obscene profits. Call me part of the problem if you like. But I like to plant trees and flowers on them. I own some in my main home sim that I use for the extra prims too. Another legitimate use may be to expand land you own but not go over your current tier limit. A lot of the 16 sq.m. lots seem to be abandoned back to Gov. Linden eventually though. I think 32 sq.m. or 64 sq.m. squares would probably be a more pleasant minimum level and reduce crowding.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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03-02-2007 09:33
From: Parker McTeague is there any legitimate reason to buy or sell a 16m plot besides advertising? In the official SL handbook, they suggest that a 16m plot is an ideal purchase to allow people to make backups of their inventory. Rez 2 or 3 prim cubes, edit contents, and drag stuff out of your inventory and into the prim. Leave it on the land. Personally I think 16m, 32m, 64m plots are pointless, but this is the 'legitimate' use of small plots, as suggested and endorsed by LL themselves. -Atashi
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Annabelle Vandeverre
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03-02-2007 09:46
From: Atashi Toshihiko In the official SL handbook, they suggest that a 16m plot is an ideal purchase to allow people to make backups of their inventory. Rez 2 or 3 prim cubes, edit contents, and drag stuff out of your inventory and into the prim. Leave it on the land.
Oh, for the love, LL advocated littering in their official handbook?!?! Cuz that's what leaving prim cubes lying around looks like, on one's own land or not.
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Malachi Petunia
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03-02-2007 10:27
From: someone In the official SL handbook, they suggest that a 16m plot is an ideal purchase to allow people to make backups of their inventory. Rez 2 or 3 prim cubes, edit contents, and drag stuff out of your inventory and into the prim. Leave it on the land. Wow! With gems of wisdom like that, I can't wait to get a copy of that fine piece of writing, but I'd like to make a sticker to cover over that spot: Since our inventory system is so buggy you may attempt to work around it by the extremely labor intensive practice of buying a small parcel, placing the 3 prims you are allowed, and then dump your inventory - the items you can copy - into the unorganizable contents of those prims. Aside from uglifying the sim, there is a chance that if we screw up your inventory that you might be able to get dig the contents out of those boxes. Of course, we may also accidentally destroy the boxes for you, but what's the chance of us screwing up your inventory and the boxes? I guess I got off topic. Back on topic, your chances of having LL take any affirmative action are pretty low. Look on the forums for "the Impeach Bush guy" if you want to see how bad it can get.
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Annabelle Vandeverre
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03-02-2007 12:16
Oh my. Sounds like in the past two years, we've only managed to go from one kind of Bush ...to another.  Thanks for the history lesson.
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Rihanna Laasonen
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03-02-2007 17:44
Hey, we could plant trees instead of cubes and store our archives in them, couldn't we? Then we'd have backup and beautification both!
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Angelique LaFollette
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03-02-2007 18:59
From: Annabelle Vandeverre Angel's suggestion is good. Multiple abuse reports on the same issue (with screenshots) should get you a response much more quickly. You could have a porn AR party - invite your friends and alts to all come file abuse reports. May as well make it enjoyable.  There was a discussion in another thread about security forces that most people were strongly against because they didn't want self-proclaimed do-gooders playing police on their land. Perhaps, though, when invited by a fed-up landowner, reps from these groups could be used as back-up witnesses to file abuse reports in these kinds of situations. I suggested that to One person wishing to Start a Security Force, That in the event a griefing Incident Two, (And no More than Two) officers of the group come to the land When Invited by the Land Owner, and act as Observers, and Witnesses in addition to the Land owners AR.The persons would Come Unarmed, and Not attempt in any way to Interfere in any actions being taken, But assist in the Linden approved abuse report procedure. That was one of several proposals i provided him for an Effective, Guaranteed Non griefing security Team. Oh, and Full Marks and a cookie for Rihanna Laasonen and her suggestion: From: someone Hey, we could plant trees instead of cubes and store our archives in them, couldn't we? Then we'd have backup and beautification both! Elegant, Simple, Brilliant solution to the Littering Inventory store idea. Angel.
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Rihanna Laasonen
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03-03-2007 18:22
From: Angelique LaFollette Oh, and Full Marks and a cookie for Rihanna Laasonen and her suggestion *preens and chomps a peanut butter patty*
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Conifer Dada
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03-04-2007 12:19
Someone has built an open-air sex shop next to my house and it doesn't really bother me. There is a constant stream of newbies in search of various 'attachments'.
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Tuffy Dieterle
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03-05-2007 23:00
I've got a question in line with Rihanna and Foolish's suggestions. As a newbie, I don't understand why this "obnoxious visuals" problem exists at all. Scenery in SL isn't real, it's a picture made to look like 3D. If someone's got a bunch of ugly stuff on adjacent land, why not just take a picture of some pretty coastline from elsewhere in SL and stick it on a "wall" at the edge of your property? It wouldn't look any different than if you had "actual" coastline there.
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Warda Kawabata
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03-06-2007 00:03
From: Tuffy Dieterle I've got a question in line with Rihanna and Foolish's suggestions. As a newbie, I don't understand why this "obnoxious visuals" problem exists at all. Scenery in SL isn't real, it's a picture made to look like 3D. If someone's got a bunch of ugly stuff on adjacent land, why not just take a picture of some pretty coastline from elsewhere in SL and stick it on a "wall" at the edge of your property? It wouldn't look any different than if you had "actual" coastline there. Why not in one word: parallax.
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Tuffy Dieterle
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03-06-2007 07:17
Oh! I get it. Thanks!
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Ace Albion
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03-06-2007 08:16
From: Angelique LaFollette Elegant, Simple, Brilliant solution to the Littering Inventory store idea.
Angel.
Unless the cute tree sways into some neighbour's living room wall, of course.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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03-06-2007 09:20
From: Rihanna Laasonen Hey, we could plant trees instead of cubes and store our archives in them, couldn't we? Then we'd have backup and beautification both! I'm pretty sure that trees, at least the Linden trees, cannot have inventories. I'm not in-world so I can't verify this, but I do know they can't be linked like normal prims...because they're not normal prims. There's something special about then... It's in a knowledge base article somewhere. Nothing to stop you from texturing the storage prims with some other appealing design though. Like a bureau or dresser or armoir or steamer trunk. Or outdoors, a rock or just a patch of grass. They don't have to be square.  -Atashi p.s. Although I do use prims for storage, I don't leave them just laying about like litter. I keep them hidden away in my basement, just like RL. And the only things I store in them, are things I don't mind losing should there be a flood or asset server hiccup. Just like RL.
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Annabelle Vandeverre
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03-06-2007 10:30
From: Atashi Toshihiko I'm pretty sure that trees, at least the Linden trees, cannot have inventories. I'm not in-world so I can't verify this, but I do know they can't be linked like normal prims...because they're not normal prims. There's something special about then... It's in a knowledge base article somewhere.
Linden trees can't be used for this - but you can use 'trees' that other residents have created from prims and textured to look like trees. There are a number of free ones floating around. I have planted a small orange grove in my sim on some small ad plots that were abandoned back to Gov. Linden because they haven't enabled autoreturn on the land yet (despite my numerous support requests) and I didn't want them to fill up with ugly crap. I wasn't permitted to put Linden trees there - but the prim trees went up just fine.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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03-06-2007 10:37
From: Annabelle Vandeverre I wasn't permitted to put Linden trees there - but the prim trees went up just fine. Woah...that seems really wierd, and yet part of me accepts it without even a shrug. You can't put Linden trees on Linden land... Of course. It makes perfect sense...? -Atashi
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Rihanna Laasonen
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03-06-2007 10:49
From: Atashi Toshihiko I'm pretty sure that trees, at least the Linden trees, cannot have inventories. No, but prim trees should be able to, and the 16-m plot should have just enough prims for one tree. Okay, so they're usually not as nice as the Linden trees, but variety is good. I have a ton of questions about the weirdness of Linden trees, that I'll get around to asking some other day.
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