Is there a Gorean Matchmaker/Dating Agency?

Hello. I know there is one to match slaves with Masters. That is not exaxtly what I was looking for........... and i did a search on the forum and found this thread: /118/42/197861/1.html

It mentions a Khilah Whitfield and a agency called SecondLove. I searched for her inworld, but didn't seem to find that agency in her picks. And a search for SecondLove brought up a very small group only. I searched under "all" hoping to find that LM.

I'm a rather strange person...........getting involved in Roleplay as myself, not as an alt. Most people who start RP in an ill-reputaded Gorean sim try to hide it, and makes an alt only for that purpose. Not me. That means i have to be exstremly careful about rules, so i don't risk to delete Marianne Little because i thread on the wrong person's toes. Ummm, it IS a challence......

So i look for playful men who would like to try/or is RP as Gorean Man, and act as my "protector". There are a lot of self-concious men playing there...so I am rather afraid to approach the wrong ones. It would be nice to IM and set up some funny things we could play out in open chat, speeking as free as i do now.
If there was a man who liked the idea of making a Free Woman his friend, not exactly needing to have all women kneeling at his feet. (besides of that, i hate to get the skin on my knees scratched)

Therefore i just tiptoes around the men i meet there, and try to make myself invisible. (/me laugh and roll her eyes....after carefully picking dresses, veils and jewelery to make me look as good as possible, i try to not get noticed...)

What i offer in return is friendship and the possibility to see where it goes from there. I have a life outside Gor too, but got tired of shopping and dancing in clubs. If i wanted just sex, i would go to a Nude Beach, or strip and kneel in a Gorean sim.

/me sneaks up on Marianne, slaps a collar on her and writes my initials on her butt with a marker.


Just kidding Mari.


this is gonna be a fun thread.

Lots of Goreans have a life outside Gor.

There is no reason why you can't treat it as purely roleplaying rather than a lifestyle that completely dominates your second life.

Hi Marianne

I believe I am the person you are looking for.

While SecondLove is no longer in service, there are other dating agencies out there, I am not familiar with whether there are specific Gorean dating agencies, but if you need any help finding one, just IM me in world and I am sure I can point you in the right direction to finding one

I wish you the best of luck and if you need anything, don't hesitate to contact me.

Take care

well for slave girls the match making is pretty easy

Wander around gorean sims with no observer tag,

.. if its taking too long, strip.


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For Free Women, you'd have to go around talking to men and slaves and try to find some guy who isn't looking for a slave girl.

Might be harder than it sounds, since most are looking for slave girls. They Collect them like baseball cards.

Get in touch with YekaterinaStankova Sirbu from the other thread. She has a friend who would dearly love to match up some Goreans with somebody, anybody, as long as it's not herself. Not sure how much fun they would be, but as a Free Woman I would guess that if they try to collar you you would have some means to RP kill them in self-defense. Not ARable if it is RP, you know, and they have it coming...Alternatively, maybe when you do get a "protector" he will kill them for you.

Jes so people know: this ain't me nor an alt of me.

Mari

Damn shame this kind of disclaimer has to be made.

Shame on you, you dirty-minded neurotics out there. /rant off

Didn't mean to imply it was you. I do think most know you well enough to know it wasn't.

What does "reputaded" mean?

I speak several languages but I have never come across that word before.

Thanks in advance - I'm quite agog with anticipation to know the true meaning.

It means someone made a minor typing error that does not confuse normal readers in the midst of a longish post and didn't catch it when they proofread the post.

There, don't you feel better?

Advertising this way, you are only going to find an Uncultured Ape, But then, if you are only roleplaying, it doesn't really make any Difference.

If, However, you are looking for a Real Gorean Male, one with Honor, Self Discipline, and Real Courage, one who Knows how to treat a free woman as thoroughly as he knows how to use a slave, i can reccomend a Few (Very few actually).

Warning though, If you are only looking to Role Play, i don't advise wasting their time. They are the Real Thing.

Angel.

Try our new Real Gorean Male©!
He comes PACKED with Mysogynism, Cultish Isolationism, and a REALISTIC Overcompensating crotchbulge. And remember, if all the muscle sliders aren't set to max, it isn't Real Gorean©!

But seriously, I like Goreans. They make me laugh. They're like blingtards with capes instead of puffy jackets. I also can't help but think of He-Man when I think of Goreans.

A very honest answear, Angelique. You have not offended me in any ways. I'm sure you know that there are many layers in SL. I don't mean to sound like this is my new lifestyle, or that i have found this to be my one and only place in SL. If you don't like it, please appreciate my honesty if not my thoughts.

That doesn't mean i will act without respect to those that has that opinion. I think you know that a lot of people come and leave as an alt, only interested in a quick fix. Therefore i wander around, and try to observe and learn. The last thing i want, is to appear like i'm seeking a collar. Nor will i try to make a big drama to please myself. Notice that a slave can submit to a city and enter a slave school. A Free Woman who enter a Gorean sim is mostly left to herself, to find out the correct way to act and speak.

Why should any Free Woman want to be in SL Gor? It is said that the opposite attracts each other. I didn't come to SL to do everyday RL stuff. In Gor, as described in John Norman's books, a Free Woman only stay free because men allow her to stay free. Every unknown man may be a danger to her. To approach a Man in SL Gor could mean that he thinks i'm playing hard to get, that i will be a slave just after some time.

I often wander alone or speak with slaves. I miss the simple and straight forward conversation with a man, that doesn't mean that i disrespect the slaves. I have no problems with those who choose to submit. A large amout among them are talented and creative people. Therefore i newer underestimate a slave.

SL Gor is very different from Gor as described in John Norman's books. A free woman in SL Gor is a minority, while in the books only 3 % are slaves. Silk slaves are even more rare. In SL Gor there are more slaves than Free, and all the slaves are in silk. And there are a some spirited Free Women in the books, even if they are written as a demonstration against woman's liberation.

And to you Chris......"And wild for to hold, though I seem tame." /me smiles

And of course i'm only myself, not another Marianne.......*giggles*

No, I still do not know what was meant. I could guess at reputed or retarded or regarded - but it might have a specific Gorean meaning.

/me sighs. I'm sure you fit in Gor just fine, Marianne. You have the obligatory florid speech down cold. In me, it always triggered the 'instant mock' reaction you see from many on Gor threads ... this always made Gor an exercise in restraint!

Have you considered choosing a city whose style you like, then adopting a more specific role within that city? I don't know if it is John Norman compliant, but I have seen free women take on tasks as Physicians, Scribes, organizers of events etc. ... such a role might bring you into contact with more individuals.

Hi Marianne!

I would agree with Angelique.

Having been on IRC Gor since practically its inception 10+ years ago, I can tell you that being a Free Woman in Gor (those very few places that stay true to the books and aren't all about sex/force collar/capture/kill/chest-pounding - and probably in some cases kids or adults who act like kids - all of which the groups I've been associated with abhor) is not easy.

Just read your second post (I really should do that before posting a reply *blushes*) and can see you've read the novels and/or done your homework. That in itself puts you a cut above the average person on SL Gor. (A friend and I were actually just remarking this morning that SL Gor has a LOT of maturing to do as most of it is just atrocious.) I'm impressed that you know the ratio of slaves to FW is very small (I think the books say 40:1 ratio in favor of FW.) It is pretty much the opposite in online Gor because many just want sex, plus it attracts many from the D/s, BDSM realms, although they are actually quite different. Norman refers to BDSM in one of the novels as "an Earth sickness." Plus many don't wish to put in the time and effort to educate themselves about Gor rp the way they would for say, LOTR or something similar.

So, there are a lot of sword-swinging, egocentric adolescents (or those that act like them), wandering around Gorean sims. I have a friend who states it well: Those that have no personal power in RL gravitate to places online where they can have positional power, and unfortunately Gor can be misused for that type of person.

As you know, the word for "stranger" in Gorean is the same as "enemy" so any new person, male or female in a "serious" (meaning true to books and not aforementioned sex games/force collar/capture/kill, etc.) Gorean area is treated cordially but distantly until the stranger is better known. This usually goes double for FW. So to establish oneself as a FW that is respected takes some time.

Then to have Gorean men who wish to be a respected FW's "protector" and/or Free Companion, takes, or should take, more time in getting to know each other, etc.

The only "matchmaking" done in the novels was by the family of a woman - much as arranged marriages of various cultures is done. These were generally arranged to secure political or financial alliances. "Love matches" in the novels did exist, but were a bit rarer due to the general "cloistered existence" of free women.

Especially after reading your second post you seem like someone who is truly looking to rp Gor in a responsible manner. Those of us who have dealt with idiots for years (the caste of "Maroons" so to speak) appreciate people like yourself. Although I am personally no longer active in Gor, I know some wonderful Goreans, men and FW, who would be happy to be of assistance. Most of them came over from IRC where Gor is more established.

I also know of a wonderful training sim that welcomes any that are respectful and truly curious. The Head Scribe there teaches some wonderful classes on Free Women as well. *smiles*

Please feel free to IM me here or in world. And if you read this previous to my edit, I apologize for the assumptions I made.


Note: As a bit of background, I discovered Gor when I was doing a term paper for a class in Human Sexuality as part of my Master's studies. Never heard of Gor, D/s, BDSM, etc. prior so I came to Gor quite a bit differently than the average person in Gorean venues. From reading the novels I was intrigued by the philosophy John Norman (pen name of John Lange) put forth by way of a series of basically "pot boilers" (he needed quick cash) as well as his use of various Earth cultures, past and present, as his settings on the fictional "Counter-Earth."

Hi Nika!

As one who has read all the novels except the last (#26 - Witness of Gor) and most several times, free women are indeed physicians, scribes and events organizers. As Gor is run on a caste system, a person is born into the caste of their father and with rare exception changes caste. Exceptions could be in the case of free companionship, or something along that line.

As a side note on free women of the Green Caste (physicians), the cannot "practice" medicine until they have borne two children.

This site has a good breakdown of Gorean castes and their respective "sub-castes":

http://the-lara-inn.org/info/castes.htm

I know, Chris an I agree, Har. Jes playin' it safe.

Mari

I hope to monkeys you'll always be safe!

Two posts of hers I've read in the past two days: the one about "uncultured apes" reduced me to hilarious tears; the other, about having a clear ethical orientation - to grinning admiration. I've come to know Angel pretty well - I think hers is a nearly unique voice, and much to be treasured

I have always greatly valued Angeliques posts. I must back-read!

Hon, I'm sure you are a smart and sweet woman and I mean this to be helpful....

There is a clear inverse relationship between the number of intentional extraneous capital letters in a post and how seriously people will take you.

LOL, the forum is off to a good start today...

It's Monday. We need to give the nice folks over at SLU material for their Point and Laugh Hour.