what do you think of this....

I've sent in bug reports till I'm tried of sending them about the two Morris sandboxes.
The 5 hour auto return doesn't return half the objects and a lot of times there are builds and prims still there 4 and 5 days later. There is a "Giant Cthulhul" right now that's been their a whole week. LL doesn't think it's an important issue so I gave up on sending bug reports.

I'd like to see the sandboxes removed from Morris maybe that would take some of the load off the Welcome. Morris regularly goes off line. Maybe make one big sandbox down the hill in Oak Grove where the neglected ghost town is that's falling apart prim by prim.

I've sent in bug reports till I'm tried of sending them about the two Morris sandboxes.
The 5 hour auto return doesn't return half the objects and a lot of times there are builds and prims still there 4 and 5 days later. There is a "Giant Cthulhul" right now that's been their a whole week. LL doesn't think it's an important issue so I gave up on sending bug reports.

I'd like to see the sandboxes removed from Morris maybe that would take some of the load off the Welcome Area. Morris regularly goes off line. Maybe make one big sandbox down the hill in Oak Grove where the neglected ghost town is that's falling apart prim by prim.

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I think that "sandbox" as used in this thread means "large Linden owned sandboxes". There's 6 whole sim Linden sandboxes and two partial sim ones that I can think of. Goguen, Cordova, Newcomb, Warton, Sandbox, Extension, are whole sims, Morris and Plum are partial sim sandboxes. This is a far cry from a million. Although I can't complain much about order of magnitude errors, apparently.

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Here's the giant Cthlhu mentioned above:

I have a feeling this was left out because someone thought it was neat. Linden staff may have seen it and felt it was a good example of building for folks new to SL to see. It's not huge physically, thought such builds do use a lot prims for their size.

This Cthlhu, by the way, is pretty nice looking, and the body is a nice healthy green color, but the wings are a shriveled, dessicated looking, burnt brown color. I looked around for an intense heat source that would dry and destroy delicate wing membranes but I was having trouble seeing due to the immense brilliance of the enormous yellow white thing that engulfed and destroyed the sun not too long ago, whatever that thing is.

Dunno about that, but if you search Places for "sandbox" there are 174 results which, I posit, is the same as a million.

These people you describe are called Lindens
If youa re having troubles fire off an email to [email=inworldsupport@secondlife.com]inworldsupport@secondlife.com[/email]
They come very quickly

Tiny parcels called sandboxes aren't of much use for really big builds.

You're right that there are alternatives to the big Linden sandboxes that can and do serve the needs of lots of builders and which might well satisfy the needs of the folks in this thread calling for something to be done about the big Linden sims.

I emailed inworld support yesterday and got a reply that it was shut down permanently. Now you have to go here and file a ticket: http://secondlife.com/community/support.php. For the record they fixed my problem within a matter of an hour or two which I was quite impressed by.

There will always be the risk of griefers joining a sandbox police force and going round deleting bona fide work. How about having a system where as well as deleting objects after 5 hours, objects would be deleted 1 hour after a resident leaves a sandbox/ That would give them time to get back if they crash/logout or have to nip and see someone either in-world or in RL. It's good practice to save work-in-progress anyway, so deleting such items shouldn't be too much hardship for anyone.

Was that a problem like the ones mentioned in this thread, in a Linden sandbox sim?

I could see this, but there is always gonna be some jerk that will rezz those big prims, making the box unusable. ARing would be great, but that kind of thing seems to take 5th place in the list of things that Liaisons react to, which leaves the sim unusable for that hour. This depends on if the idiot leaves during that time, too. Sometimes, they stick around to hold the sim hostage unless paid in L. Yeah, those tend to get caged a lot. *snort*

that is my point. you file a report or what ever and do not hold your breath. sand boxes seem to be VERY unimportant to the lindens. they are so valuable to US although. especially with land costing very much now. they are the only places to go to build if you do not own land or have a friend who does.

to susanc..the feature proposal section mentions going to the forum first to test out an idea before proposing the feature. that is what i am doing here. just following the recomendation.

Yes. And such posts are best placed in the "Feature Suggestion" forum as opposed to Resident Answers.

And also to Sue - my idea doesn't necessarily mean a Liaison would need to police the sandboxes on a full time basis. I just believe that whether through an actual Liaison arrangement with the regular sandbox users, or whether perhaps a tool on the support page, there should be a way to quickly resolve problems in Linden run sandboxes. Assigning a patrol duty or an on call duty to a handful of Liaisons wouldn't be terribly unreasonable. Sandboxes, like Welcome Areas, are havens for griefers, and for many new users, who hear alot about things like "community", getting griefed is actually one of their first experiences once they get out to the mainland. It's one area where I don't believe the Lindens are doing enough.

I said a certain amount of time AFTER THE PERSON LEAVES THE SIM - so why would 30 minutes be too short?

Now THIS is a workable solution, Since the lindens must be in SL anyway, why not assign them a Sandbox area (Or a Welcome area for that matter) to wait in while they are between help calls. Not a bad allocation of labor.

Angel.

I personally doubt there is much free time between help calls.

It's free land, to build freely on.

Sometimes you get what you pay for. I've built in public sandboxes, and it's sometimes no fun at all, but there are ways of working there that limit the grief. Just remembering that it's not a personal, protected building space of your own helps. That's why buying or renting your own land is appealing. There are also quite a few *good sized* private, publicly accessible sandboxes around.

I really don't understand why anyone older than a few days would have a need to use a public sandbox. There's renting, owning or even just asking friend(s) to use their land.

Other than that, find of a piece of overpriced land with build enabled and you're set.

okay, well i can see that there is not a easy answer for this and i will not make a feature suggestion for it. and i promise i will put it in the right catagory next time i want to know some thing so no body gets there hair up about it. thank you every body for your response.

helori pascal

Answer to that is quite simple, perhaps they are trying to build for sale something Too Large, or Too primmy to fit on thier own Land. That is why I used them Until recently.

Friends may have land, but they also have prims On that land, and many are close to thier prim Limits.
As for:
Well, that's called squatting, and it's Rude. it's also undependable. a group of people squatted on a Huge piece of land i held control over. Large builds,, Full houses and grounds in fact. They were fortunate i am of a merciful nature. When i banned them i Returned thier items to them instead of simply deleting them as many other owners would (I do have to say Had they simply Asked permission to use the vacant section of land for a while i Most likely would have said Yes, But they didn't ask, they just Took).
Squatting on Property that isn't yours is a Good way to lose many hours work if the owner objects to your presence.

Angel.