Search tool

The Search tool has a check box "Include parcels with mature content" yet even if it is not checked it comes up with many locations marked mature. Why, and how does one do a search for lands not marked mature?

If the listing is marked mature it will show as mature...

Can't do one that doesn't show some mature places, as often people don't pay attention to that

Realized this when I was posting my listing for my BDSM Isle and searched and didn't notice that I had mature off because so many places showed... turned it on and even more showed though

Hi DJ,

If you search in the all tab (or others in fact I think), you will still see mature land on the map, but the actual listings won't show shops with mature content, live events with mature content etc.
The events in particular are easy to distinguish, because the ones with a blue star mark mature content, the pink ones other.

Unless it's related to the new search and potential future adult content filter, in which case I have no idea.

Good luck

I searched tool....you'd be amazed how many familiar names came up.

I did a search for Money Tree, without the box checked, and I got SUPREME FETISHIST BDSM CLUB If that is not Mature, what is?????

And I went down the list, and about half of them were Mature, not PG

Doing the search with ALL, not just Places, got the same result

Do tell...

Hi DJ, it's up to the land owner to flag his parcel as "mature." Many don't. If the parcel is not flagged mature, it will show up in more searches than just the mature ones. It's a little trick to attract the newbies who don't know to check the "mature" box when they're looking for sex spots. Lame but true.

Hi DJ,
I just tried the same search and I did find some questionable ones including the one you refer to above (which is for sale btw, should anyone be interested) plus a couple of similar entires. But to be fair most on the first couple of pages at least seem fairly PG.
There's a thing line there for sure and those clearly mature ones that I did find shouldn't have been there.
Sorry can't help, search is borked.

Interesting. The search may only be looking at the parcel flag, not the region setting. Stout is a mature sim, but that club doesn't have "mature content" checked in its about land options tab.

Randomly checking a few more like that, it seems to be the same situation, parcels not marked mature while the region is.

Should I report this as a bug or something?

It's NOT a bug. Read the above posts. The parcel needs to be flagged as mature. The rating of the sim has no bearing on the search.

I read them. But whether it is a bug or not depends on whether SL is serious about making SL a family friendly place. If they are, then the search tool should check both the parcel flag AND the flag for the island, and if it does not, then it is a bug. You can't leave it up to the individual property owner, because they want the most traffic possible, so they "forget" to turn on the mature flag. But that will result in visitors that are not expecting mature subject matter.

Well to be honest, people with mature shops shouldn't even be on PG sims to start with. And what about the people who have PG shops in mature sims? There are a lot of people who have no mature content in their shops whatsoever, but choose to live on mature sims. Really the only way to search is by parcel, and whether the owner responsibly flags his parcel would be a matter for LL to enforce. Changing the search to force both sim and parcel ratings to match wouldn't work at all.

I don't see that they really are interested in "family friendly", else there wouldn't be separate teen and adult grids. It's true that there are people who don't want to see that stuff, and if you're among them, you can always pull the broadly offensive card and see if LL sees mismarked parcels as a real problem.

There is nothing wrong with a PG shop on a Mature Sim, but they should not expect business from people that are looking for a PG environment. After all, in RL you may have a McDonalds next door to an Adult Book Store, but ut us because they think the store's customers may get hungry. They don't expect to attract little old ladies from church.

And a Mature shop should not be on a PG Sim.

Changing the search to force both sim and parcel ratings to match would definitely work.




If they are not interested in Family Friendly, why have PG sims? And why post two signs in the Freebie Shop on Help Island Public saying nudity is forbidden on PG Sims?

Adults are not allowed on Teen grids except under special conditions. PG vs Mature is supposed to provide separation for Adult Sims

Honestly, it sounds like you want SL to be Rated G. And that's not going to happen.

I don't know what ever gave you the idea that anyone, including LL, was interested in making this Adults-only, "you must be 18 to enter" place into a "Family Friendly Place". LL has never said that, to my knowledge. And it will never happen while a PG sim is right next door to a Mature sim anywhere on the grid, and you can stand in the PG sim and see every 'dirty' thing that is happening across the border in the Mature sim, no matter what sort of walls and security systems the people in the Mature sim attempt to raise to keep poentially under-aged people from seing their stuff.

To get an account on the main grid, you have to attest that you are over 18. Hardly "Family Friendly".

If you are between 13 and 18, the only version of SL you can access is the Teen Grid. And parents of teen SL players can't even visit or supervise their own children on the Teen Grid. Hardly "Family Friendly".

Yes, LL is working to implement an "Identity Verification" system, to validate individuals as having provided *proof* that they are over 18, and to provide parcel acess controls that will allow those who have not provided proof of ID to be banned from parcels. But they can still stand on the parcel next door and see everything. Hardly "Family Friendly".

"Family Friendly" and "Second Life" don't belong in the same sentance.

The only way you'll ever see a G-rated, family friendly SL is if they open the Teen Grid to anyone who wants to play SL in a G-rated environment. It will never happen on the main grid.

Unless Disney gives Uncle Phil the magic number.

In which case, it would no longer be "Second Life", because they would have to evict the majority of the residents to turn it into "Disneyland-on-the-net".

Bug.

I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.

We can use the Cartel Hangout as the exodus center. I have my Huey parked on the roof. It'll be like the Evacuation of Saigon.

Not at all. In fact Teen SL is supposed to be the G rated part

But SL has some sims that are PG and some that are Mature. And from the posters on the wall in the Freebie Shop on Help Island, it appears that at one time they were serious about keeping PG and Mature in some way separate.

Search even has a check box to include Mature Content, but I did a search for Money Tree, without the box checked, and I got SUPREME FETISHIST BDSM CLUB If that is not Mature, what is?????

What I would really like is two check boxes, one that says exclude properties marked Mature, and another that says exclude Sims marked mature

Hello DJ,

If there is a feature you would like to see added to your SL experience you can do so in the public Jira: jira.secondlife.com
You have to log in with your SL name and password to submit suggestions and vote for them.
I would suggest you search the jira first to see if anyone else has already made the same new feature suggestion. If they have, you can support it by voting for it.

Good luck

But what people are trying to tell you is that even that would have no effect, because the landowner has to mark the land mature, and the restrictions on PG sims just aren't widely enforced. If you exclude Mature sims, you are going to go to PG sims and find mature shops. Maybe not the extreme fetish whatever that you found, but likely R-rated materials at best. If you excude properties marked mature, you will get the supreme fetish bdsm club, because, apparently, the owner has decided not to mark the property as mature. It's not a search issue, it's an issue with the property owner, and until LL has the resources to go look at each property and police this (which will never happen...ever), this will likely not change.

SL is a mature place. You need to be an adult to be here. I sympathize with you in that many adults don't want to deal with XXX stuff. But that's part of the deal here. I learned to laugh it off pretty early on. That seems to be the best course of action, IMO.

Note: Those please wear clothing pictures? They were not around when I first signed up. Though I've seen them since when I created alt(s).