RE: The Last Four Digits of Your Social Security Number

Darling,
CCRA identifies you with that number - its your tax account number: employers and bankers are legally obliged to obtain it so that the nice folks at the tax dept. can keep track of where your money is coming and going. If someone has your SIN and also some rudimentary name, address, birthday etc info they can pretty much access all of your income tax information. Ever wonder why no one aside from money lenders and registered employers ask for you SIN - because its illegal: for all other purposes that is protected information under the new Canadian privacy legislation - If someone else has or distributes that info without your consent, it is a criminal offence. I would never even dream of giving out access to my income tax info to any online service no matter how compelling. Don't let the polar bears bite you on the ass

And that makes a difference?

You know in Korea and China they have to give their version of the SS-number before entering online games to see if you are not a bad bad bad person or to keep track of what you are doing. One step closer that I would say.

Morwen.

If only the last four digits of a Social Security number identify a unique individual, then there can only be 10,000 unique individuals with Social Security numbers.

I'm guessing that even though the first two groups of numbers have certain meanings (location or subgroup, for example), they do help differentiate people who have the same last four digits.

Am I wrong?

hehe yes and we both know then that the information they will be asking for is a drivers license for an american avs site to confirm age because a canadian SIN number is useless to an american verifier ^^

also my polar bear's name is Herman and he ate the cat last week

I think you're correct. Pretty sure what sets the last 4 apart from the other groups of digits is simply that they hold no particular meaning. Just a sequentially generated "serial" number that happens to complete the uniqueness of the SSN as a whole.

No you are right

It can identify up to 10,000 individuals in each particular location identified for the SS# being issued.

Kind of like Area code - Exchange - phone number (000) 000 - 0000

Social security number is

000 - 00 - 0000

I dont see how someone could get your entire Social Security number from the last 4 digits -- unless they knew your address at the time you parents applied for your number AND knew the exact system in use at that time to come up with the first 5 numbers.

Even if you request 2 social security numbers for 2 people from the same place on the same day (my kids) the first 5 numbers are not the same. The first 3 are, however.

Yes you are wrong:

772 area groups
99 sub groups
9,999 serial numbers so: there are

772 x 99 x 9999 =764,203,572 unique SS numbers available.

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lol

I think Valerie misread cHex's point

He was saying that it had to be more than 10000 people

so like

"it has to be more than 10000 people, am I wrong?" so the answer is 'No hes not wrong'.

But Valerie read it as

"it can only be 10000 people then, am I wrong?" so she sais 'yes hes wrong'


However she did explain cHex's point and proove him even more right lol.

lol. thanks for the clarification Colette. i can start taping my head back together now.

Skip Intro, click "FOR CANDIDATES AND POLITICAL PARTIES", scroll down. I can't copy-paste, it's Flash.

With such file in hands, Integrity can attest that John Doe, claiming having SSN ending in 1234, has a high chance to be John Doe, if birth date and some other data matches.

I'm not sure this is a good idea, neither does Mastercard:

I tried to use my cards to but Liden dollars on the official site.

mastercard blocks all payments and locks your accounts.

Too much fraud on this site, laundering money.

marked as dangerous
family upset

I bloody livid

so now the buggers whant my passport number?

we don't have ID cards and social sec numbers in the UK

hmmm american speak:

"so they can kiss my hairy butt"


damn I'm angry and there is no way to tell LL, all feedback is closed under the new support system

damn
damn
damn

HOLY HECK IT'S MISS CLEO! jk


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I give my SSN IRL once in a while, but only to things that are part of the government or for a job.

Your SSN IS unique to you.... when combined with your Birthday .

And you all had better read that Aristotle contract a little closer...



The MINIMUM REQUIRED Information is:

Your First Name

Your Last Name

Your Date of Birth

Your Zip-Code

Your ID Number.. ( in the US this IS your SSN)


Regardless of the B-llsh-t LL is putting out in their Blog, this is what their ''3rd'' party wants...

This has nothing to do with anything BUT tieing your avatar to you....a DIRECT link.

This is supposed to be a DAMNED GAME!


But because of the self-righteous whiners out there, they would like to make you think it's about the ''Mature Content''..... B-llsh-t!!

You can go to any Porn site on the net, and not have to give-up this kind of info....


So keep deluding yourselves......this is about ''Age Verification''....


It's not.....

it's about Linden Labs covering their own Asses...and feeding the residents to the Wolves (Feds)

Gee are you sure you really to be so free with that info? Considering that a hacker can use that info to take a credit card out in your name .

Elinah

We need to stop using knowledge of SS numbers as proof that you are who say you are.

What we need is to publish everyone's SS#, ect... and then force the Credit card company's to verify your identity via a slow process. like mailing stuff to your address.

Heck, we are all heading to embedded chips anyway.

Remember that Identity theft is not a problem if no one can use that information.

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1. Your ISP can verify your real mailing address based on IP address.
2. Kids get the mail since they get home first.
3. Kids can sneak into there parents files and get there SS#
4. Kids can sound like adults on the phone.

So SL should ask for your ISP account name and then?

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What we need are those pendants that have a phso-random number on there screen. It changes every few minutes. Large company's use them to let there employees log in remotely.

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Or maybe some sort of government based system where you can register methods of contacting you.

Where are you looking this up? AOL? XD

Philip Rosedale - "We decided...to be a platform and not a game."

Who're you gonna believe, AOL or King Philip?

It will be interesting to drop by in a couple months to see how this worked out for them.

The people that have significant money to spend in SL are also going to be the most concerned about giving out this information.

excellent point.

People with the most RL money of course have the most to lose from Identity Theft.

And from the IRS......

LOL yeah that too

That would be one of the arguments FOR age verifcation though - to protect us from a governement probe into tax evasion by SL residents.

I'm dubious on that. I don't believe one iota that our info is not going to wind up on some marketing database. As they Big Boys come into SL, the taxman will not be far behind.

Well yes that too. But Thats the thing if they are identity verified LL can do the "Look that away" at the Identity place

The get out of Dodge.

Actually, I bet a lot of people who spend a lot of money on the internet are so used to giving out this kind of information, they won't think twice. I fall into that category. My info is already in databases everywhere. For me, the main thing I ask myself is, will I be able to sue these guys if they mis-use my information?

Actually, I think one of the benefits that Linden Labs expects from this is that some of those pesky free accounts will go away while the spenders remain.

except for my bank, DMV and Online Tax filing, I don't think I've ever been asked for SSN or DL numbers.