July 15 Internet Radio Date

Hi,

I've been hearing from several of my SL DJ friends that SL is no longer going to allow streaming in world as of July 15. The date that the new royalty fees for internet radio make a drastic increase. Can someone please tell me if this is true?

Thank you.

Unless there's a specific blob post regarding this then your DJ friends are speculating. Can you provide a specific, linked source for this information or was this part of a shared conversation over the virtual bong?

We were just talking. Thing is, they were actually different conversations on different days. I've tried searching the SL site for something but I must not be using the right keywords for the search.

Oh... then the Lindens must be hiding this information regarding a cutoff date for streaming music as part of their involvement with the New World Order.

Just teasing.

As this would involve a major change to both the Media tab in the About Land window _and_ a change in how SL handles DMCA complaints then we'd all be notified either on the blob or via a change in the Terms of Service.

SL probably wont be shutting off streaming, but there may be no streams left to use anyways. :/

http://www.di.fm/blog/read/2007/03/new-music-royalty-rates-are-about-to.html

http://www.savenetradio.org/index.html

It's not a Linden Lab thing or an SL thing--it's an Internet broadcasting thing.

If you are an American citizen (yes, I know, we all aren't) you can contact your representatives and senators and urge them to support the Internet Radio Equality Act. I have already done so, and will be making some calls to my senators this week. (My representative, John Lewis, has already co-sponsored the House version of the bill.)

A number of existing streams will be going silent on June 26, 2007 in protest of the increased royalty rates. So if the stream you use is one of these, keep that in mind.

I've already written to my state reps. I'm hoping since they are all Dems they'll support the bill. I'll have to call them tomorrow, though just to be safe.

I am painfully aware of all the net stations going silent on Tues. I hope it helps/works/something.

I would just love to know what LL's take on this is.

no SL is not that would be the end of live music, it also would be the end of any DJ that uses all Indie NON-RIAA music.

*edit, the no radio streams? yes without adverts, but some will stay just suck with the same crap music.... read below a DJ that uses his music that he/she owns can DJ it like playing them at home for 40 friends. I DJ weddings for 400 people I own the license to play this its fair use!

its up to the broadcaster to pay the fees or take the chance of being sued. This bill will be pulled anyway, its a way for the major labels to try and hold onto the last string they have left, they had the chance to embrace the tech. but instead started suing their customers serves them right.

A RL and SL Musician. an Indie Recording Studio owner, a podcaster, a indie music supporter and promoter. As well as a DJ in SL in my Privately owned club, my friends come listen to what I am listening to, its not a radio broadcast!

But if you are a US citizen please do writhe your congressman and representative

Peace The Distilled1
www.dmusic.com
www.empireday.com

you need to feel sorry for the poor folks down at Sony etc....., they are living on the bread line becasue of the internet DJ's

the likes of the RIAA are a cartel to monopolise the distribution of recording artists, they have MASSIVE influense over the goverment.

example....

An artist records a song at home, distributes it through the internet has there own website where people can pay a few pence/cents/euros... great 100% goes to the artist.

in reality.....
The distributors buy the rights to an artist, LOANS them the money to cut a CD, they market that CD with a video again charged against the artists future income. The CD costs virtually nothing to produce and a large percentage of the CD sales goes back to distribution company leaving many artists with a bad taste in thier mouths.

Orginisations such as the RIAA are there to preserve the status quo of the distributors, a non profit internet DJ is there becasue of the love they have for the music......
They expose others to the music they like and give others a taster of an artist that MAY sway that person into buying that persons work or going to a concert.

There used to be a system called " Payola" where the record companies would PAY stations to play the artists work, but due to there total INABILITY to manage copyright theft they feel its better to go after people who play the tunes instead.

I fear it is ONLY a matter of time that you will no longer be able to BUY anything, you will RENT a piece of music and "Pay per Play".

Sad days in deed

I'm getting sick & tired of all of these damn laws that continue to erode the simple pleasures we have such as online music! Jesus,,,, next we'll have to pay sending e-mail, accessing regular internet sites or even turning your PC on because it generates an active IP address,,, what-ever. Will we also get to a point that we'll need a permit to sneeze?????? I know I'm taking this to the extreme but dammit,,, that's how I feel. Why don't they just change the name of the United States into the land of "NO",,, or ,, "Pay As You Go".

Sorry for the ranting but I'm really getting fed up with the,,,,,,ahhhhh,,,,, never mind,,,.

Again,, sorry.

Dystopian rule? xD

I kid.

Internet Royalty rates are just the next logical step for music corporations to take after the huge Napster thing, then the prosecuting of internet downloaders (though I never knew anyone who actually went to jail over this, and i have known people who downloaded thousands upon thousands of songs..) Now it's just another hit, they see something that isn't lining their pockets... And really that's the rub of the whole thing. Money. They're rich, but they can never be rich enough, and online radio is ripping them off, they get nothing for having their songs (because let's face it, most artists signed to big labels no longer own the royalties to their own music) being played over the net. So people are now listening to the music for free, and that's not "right."

So, what do we do in the rest of the world when Internet radio is cut off? I don't have a "state rep" to write to.

I don't know... Encourage your friends who live in the US to write/call their reps, I guess.

I see a lot of live music because it gives more cash to the musician. Please support the artists you love when they come to town. As Prince once said: Down with Sony! Or was that Warner Bros?

The irony is, by jacking up the royalty rates for internet broadcasters, the royalties collected will DROP, because most internet radio stations will be forced into bankruptcy or to shut down permanently.

They know. I don't believe their intent is actually to have reasonable royalty rates. When today's successful internet broadcasters like Pandora and Live365 are dead and buried then the labels will rush in to set up their own streaming services that, like terrestrial radio, will promote only their favored acts. This isn't about looking out for the welfare of artists. It's about control of the market.

I agree, it sounds like basically they dont want the royalties - they want the market and will basically form a trust of a couple of comapnies running the entire thing.

Probably wont even say "thanks" to the people they ran out of business to get the market from.

sort of like the IRAA

Internet Radio Assiciation of America.....

Surely there must be a nice little country somewhere outside the reach of the Copyright Royalty Board who wants to host a bunch of servers to keep the music playing?

Thats a FANTASTIC idea!!!!!!! I would love to see that happen! Totally circumvent the law over here!!!!

On the front page of http://www.savenetradio.org/ there is a note that says: "International Listeners - Make your voice heard by joining the SaveNetRadio coalition"

The signup link is http://www3.capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/mlm/signup/

There is also the in-world group you can join "Save Internet Radio -- Get involved". Just search groups for "savenetradio" -- that's how I found it.

This system is still very much in existence. Record company promotion groups regularly give Program Directors perks above the table and will pay them cash under the table (to prevent the IRS from getting involved) to get whatever "single of the week" they need promoted and put into rotation. The only difference is that nobody uses the "Payola" dirty word for it any longer -- it's now called "promotional incentives."

Anybody who thinks Program Directors do the work of seeking out new talent and bands to put into rotation on their playlists is fooling themselves. The top five record companies own most major market playlist spots.

The music and commercial radio businesses are as corrupt as an organized crime effort. These are the same two entities behind RIAA and supporting the internet radio restrictions.

Why would they want independent internet radio to fold?

Because they're not getting a big enough piece of the action from it.

If what Distilled1 is saying is true then I'm okay for what I'm doing. I'm not running an internet radio station. I'm simply sharing music in a party type situation as if I was at home. I'm only sharing music that I've purchased.

As for Payola...well...I know that still goes on. That's why I don't like the radio very much. I end up hearing new songs in world when I go to clubs. Streaming in world has exposed me to lots of new music. It would be a shame if it had to stop.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Except that, well, you're not playing it 'at home' . . . you're broadcasting it over the internet and thus outside of the boundaries of your home. I fear it may well apply to what you're doing as well. Keep that in mind.

This really sucks you know. I just want to encourage my friends to have a good time while getting this artist a little promotion.

It's not as though I'm doing it everyday all the time. I'm talking about a once a week thing that's just for fun. I'm not making the stream available to anyone else. Of course, nothing is going to be resolved here. I'm going to take the advice Distilled1 gave me in PM and try to find out the answer via other avenues.