The OFFICIAL Poll - Copybot: Should be Allowed or Should be Banned
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Lace™
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,515
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11-14-2006 20:56
Not only should using such code for any, ANY purpose be grounds for account removal, but selling it, advertising it, trading it, and posessing it should also be grounds for removal. If LL wants to support Sllib and see what new areas that can take them, then fine.... frikkin do it on a test grid somewhere. Stay the hell off the main grid with it, because there's no way at all anyone can keep it out of the hands of thieves and griefers. Just like the guy handing out free cagers to unverified noobs at the welcoming area... no common sense at all. I haven't yet opened my store, but I was going to within a couple of days... now I wont. Some of my products have labor hours attached to them that are measured in weeks, not hours or days.
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Glitch Tennant
Registered User
Join date: 5 Sep 2006
Posts: 1
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11-14-2006 21:19
The code for the copy bot is still online it took me 10 mins of tping this morning to find a link in world to copybot code on the net ....
this is not an easy setup its a bit code head for many but its there for free ...
THE NATURE OF PROGRAMMING IS NOT ACCIDENTAL NO PROGRAMMER RELEASES THEIR CODE ONTO A SERVER BY ACCIDENT .. IF THAT IS TRUE HOW DID THAT NEWBIE GET INTO THE GROUP ..
Lets hear about the TOS breach acctions being taken by Lindon Labs against the indevidual or group that released the code..
and lets also hear that copybot is removed from the database or parts that are needed to run it are removed..
NO MORE HIDING BEHIND YOUR TOS LINDONS IT DONT MEAN SHIT TO FREE ACOUNTS.
I DEAL WITH GREIFERS EVERY DAY AS I CREATE CONTENT FOR THIS WORLD ...
NO FREE ACOUNTS NO GREIFERS AND NO UNTRACEBLE COPYBOT OWNERS.
IT REALLY IS THAT EASY ... LINDONS
YOU ARE PROTECTING YOUR ADVERTISING INVESTMENT AS LESS PEOPLE IN WORLD MEANS YA ADD SPACE IS WORTH LESS ..
WE HAVE HAD MISSING ITEMS AND DATABASE ERRORS BEFORE WE KNOW YOU CAN FIX IT BUT DO YOU WANT TO ....
AND WILL MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS EVER BE ANSWERED By A LINDON I THINK NOT ..
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Dr Tardis
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Join date: 3 Nov 2005
Posts: 426
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11-14-2006 21:38
It was a TEST program, that's all. One of the things that libSecondLife doesn't do well yet is set up avatars. Until this, there was no way to set up an avatar's appearance. My IM program, for example, leaves my avatar with Ruth's shape and the clothing that was worn when I signed out.... and it looks pretty horrible to see my skin on Ruth's body!
Open Source programming, by its very nature, is OPEN. When someone writes a module for libSecondLife, they release a patch, which goes back to the server and is integrated to the source tree. Everyone then has access to it. You don't have to be in any group.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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11-14-2006 23:33
From: Ishtara Rothschild "Merely copying something doesn’t mean that a copyright violation has occurred. The law discusses ‘fair use’, for example, as one type of copying that is not a violation. That is precisely true and correct. From: someone If you DO think someone has copied something you made and is violating your copyright by profiting from the copying then you do have the option of using the DMCA process to file a complaint" (emphasis added) The highlighted text is definitely in error, but that's Robin's error, the DMCA doesn't require that anyone be profiting from it and LL can't ignore a DMCA takedown notice on that basis. From: someone Luckily the new blog post sounds a little bit different; only a little, since it comes down to: the TOS will protect your content for a while, but not for long. Soon you'll be on your own. So you don't believe that they will in fact add the additional technical mechanisms discussed in that post or what?
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Fia Tyne
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Join date: 14 Jun 2005
Posts: 111
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11-14-2006 23:50
Vote libsecondlife out of our lives! https://secondlife.com/vote/Tell everyone about the vote, and protest!
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Lace™
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,515
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11-15-2006 02:48
From: Dr Tardis It was a TEST program, that's all. Then I say again, do it on a LL TEST grid. You say you didn't create the "copy-bot", fine... but you DID assemble the technology behind it and allow it to get loose. Irresponsible and accountable at the very least. Your "Intensions", whether good or bad dont mean dick here buddy. You set the virus loose and people want a piece of someone... period.
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Hewee Zetkin
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Join date: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 2,702
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11-15-2006 12:10
From: Errafel Eccleston How would it get banned? By simply added a fast encryption scheme in the communication pipline. libSL will be rendered useless. If LL want to support client-side user programming, let them furnish an official API for SL Client plugins (that way user code can access only the information that SHOULD be available to them).
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Marcus Moreau
frand
Join date: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 602
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11-15-2006 12:14
Copybot stole my socks. The pretty santa ones!
MM
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JoshBear Sojourner
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Join date: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 65
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11-15-2006 12:18
From: Doubledown Tandino Well, I do appreciate the fact that LL has made the copybot against TOS....
Now, I think LL needs to find a way to either remove it's functionality or receive notice any time any avatar uses it.
What's to stop people from creating an alt, using the copybot, and sending the replications to a different AV? Remember its only again TOS till LL can have a 'watermark' on your stuff... then it will be ok to use it anytime. And the creators will have to work to PROVE that its their stuff and that they didnt give permission for others to copy... that is IF you can get LL to listen to you at all.
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JoshBear Sojourner
Registered User
Join date: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 65
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11-15-2006 12:25
From: Dr Tardis It was a TEST program, that's all. You are part of the libsl ... and you need to stop defending your (in)actons and take responsibility NOW !!
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Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
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11-15-2006 12:26
From: Seigmancer Nino very easily, it is removed from the main database, that way it will appear as "missing from database" when someone tries to use it Copybot is not an inventory item. It is a Windows executable application.
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Walker Moore
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Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
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11-15-2006 12:35
From: Marcus Moreau Copybot stole my socks. The pretty santa ones! Don't worry. In another six weeks, Santabot will deliver another pair to you personally. I hear he has another 1,409,199 identical pairs with full permissions to be delivered to other Second Life residents so nobody feels left out.  Hmm. I'm beginning to think Santabot and Copybot are in this whole thing together.
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Marcus Moreau
frand
Join date: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 602
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11-15-2006 12:37
From: Walker Moore Don't worry. In another six weeks, Santabot will deliver another pair to you personally. I hear he has another 1,409,199 identical pairs with full permissions to be delivered to other Second Life residents so nobody feels left out.  Hmm. I'm beginning to think Santabot and Copybot are in this whole thing together. It's a conspiracy, and LL, LibSL, the boogieman, and the Pope are all involved as well. This goes to the deepest depths of the human condition! MM
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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11-15-2006 17:19
3 Words WARDEN SNIFFER BOT!!! That's what Blizzard Entertainment uses to keep people from hacking World of Warcraft. Yea you might not want a piece of spyware checking what your running, but if you play WoW you've already had it. LL needs to do something. This can't go on. Duping Items in WoW is a finable offence. Why not here? I know SL isn't a game but it runs on the same concept. (Massive), (Multiplayer), (Online), Environment. I admit i don't play WoW anymore, but it isn't because of the bot. It's because of the idiots and kids...
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Doubledown Tandino
ADULT on the Mainland!
Join date: 9 Mar 2006
Posts: 1,020
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11-15-2006 17:26
Dear Linden Lab!!!!!
I Would Like To Point Out That 90% Of Your Users Think The Copybot Should Be Banned!!!!
Why The F*ck Are You Not Paying Attention To This?!?!
90% Of Your Slers Want It Banned!!! That Means There Is Nooooooo Acceptable Use For It. There Should Be Nooooooo 'with Permission' Or 'its Okay To Use' Copybot Acceptions. The Copybot Should Be 100% Banned And Any Use Whatsoever Should Be Banned, Against Tos, Illegal, Gone!!!!
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Doubledown Tandino
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11-15-2006 17:28
Yiffy, .... what's worse... the idiots and kids playing the game? or the idiots and kids running the game?
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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11-15-2006 17:35
From: Yiffy Yaffle 3 Words WARDEN SNIFFER BOT!!! That's what Blizzard Entertainment uses to keep people from hacking World of Warcraft. Yea you might not want a piece of spyware checking what your running, but if you play WoW you've already had it. LL needs to do something. This can't go on. Duping Items in WoW is a finable offence. Why not here? I know SL isn't a game but it runs on the same concept. (Massive), (Multiplayer), (Online), Environment. I admit i don't play WoW anymore, but it isn't because of the bot. It's because of the idiots and kids...
Here is a person with common sence  Can`t say taht for most of the people posting here. Only a few other those that feels LLabs has messed up ( and they have ) are the smart ones. But also saying its time to bring back dance events and dj bla bla bla bla bla. Is just blowing hot air. The game as we know it is in deep poop and we DON`T need actions like those likeJenna Fairplay holding STOP THE COPYBOT BS event. FOr themselves have causes problems in areas like this in the past. Its just another reason why LLabs is so screwed up these days. The people that has the money and land also has the lindens in their futon!
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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11-15-2006 18:22
From: Doubledown Tandino Dear Linden Lab!!!!! I Would Like To Point Out That 90% Of Your Users Think The Copybot Should Be Banned!!!! Why The F*ck Are You Not Paying Attention To This?!?! Notice who your asking... They never pay attention or they just dont care.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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11-15-2006 18:26
From: Yiffy Yaffle Notice who your asking... They never pay attention or they just dont care. There was a time when they did care.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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11-15-2006 18:28
The wall history of Sl is slowly breaking down.. With many of us caught at the bottom of the mess.
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