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"Adult content" question

Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 21:42
From: Luth Brodie
Robin did say this part

"If you are not age verified you will not be able to access these flagged parcels or any island estates that are flagged as containing adult content. You will, however, be able to access mature regions where there is no adult content. Make sense?"

Which pretty much says to me there will be 3 different classifications:
PG
Mature
Mature flagged as "adult content"

If you are unverified, you can get acess to PG and Mature but not the mature parcels that have been flagged as "adult content"


Yes I read it the same way.

But another way to read it is she meant the MATURE flag and substituted the word ADULT. The words are often used as synonyms reguarding content.

Thus my question.

Right now there is a Mature flag that seems off by default.
cHex Losangeles
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05-06-2007 22:15
From: Luth Brodie
From the blog:
Robin Linden Says:
May 4th, 2007 at 5:15 PM PDT

@40 - the rule applies to parcels flagged as containing adult content. These parcels are in mature regions (no adult content can be present in PG regions).

If you are not age verified you will not be able to access these flagged parcels or any island estates that are flagged as containing adult content. You will, however, be able to access mature regions where there is no adult content. Make sense?


Is this misleading?

On the part of the blog I accessed, the announcement was posted by Daniel Linden, not Robin. And while he said the first paragraph above, I believe the second paragraph is Luth Brodie's interpretation, not a continuation of the quote.
Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 22:17
From: cHex Losangeles
Is this misleading?

On the part of the blog I accessed, the announcement was posted by Daniel Linden, not Robin. And while he said the first paragraph above, I believe the second paragraph is Luth Brodie's interpretation, not a continuation of the quote.



no thats the quote from the blog
Hydra Zenovka
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05-06-2007 22:42
From: Jig Chippewa
I started a thread a few minutes ago with same question - basically - and it may have sounded tongue in cheek but it is quite serious. I am a Neko - a female cat. My female partner is also a Neko. My male partner who is OUR shared partner is a Satyr and a Unicorn. Our daughter is a Vampire. Yes, so far a pretty typical SL family!
But will we all NEED age verification if linden decides that Mythiality and Nekoality are illegal? Are we going to corrupt US youth if they come on line?
Where is line drawn for Linden over all this??
We must keep up this barrage of questions so that Linden is befuddled.
P.S. Satyrs are fantastic and generous partners. I do wish he quit playing those bloody pipes.
Unicorns have to be ridden every morning if you know what I mean.


Yes - you will all have to go...booted out age verification or not. Once we are free of you sexually degenerate Nekos, Unicorns and Satyrs (not to mention vampires), the clean living lesbos, queers and bi's of this great land will once again reclaim our moral purity.



PS - you know I'm kidding ;)
Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 22:45
From: Hydra Zenovka
Yes - you will all have to go...booted out age verification or not. Once we are free of you sexually degenerate Nekos, Unicorns and Satyrs (not to mention vampires), the clean living lesbos, queers and bi's of this great land will once again reclaim our moral purity.



PS - you know I'm kidding ;)


All sex must be clothed, in the dark, missionary position, a maximum of one time a week.

All other sex will be flagged and eventually banned :p :p :p
cHex Losangeles
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05-07-2007 00:06
From: Colette Meiji
no thats the quote from the blog


Thanks for insisting this was a quote. You two spurred me to go back and do more hunting, and sure enough, I found the cited clarification in comment #45 by Robin Linden. Good work!
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05-07-2007 00:20
From: Colette Meiji
All sex must be clothed, in the dark, missionary position, a maximum of one time a week.

All other sex will be flagged and eventually banned :p :p :p

Don't forget the blanket in between partners with an access hole cut in it.
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Daisy Rimbaud
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05-07-2007 01:08
Much of this thread is almost comical in its attempts to define adult - practically to the point of debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

So seeing an image of nudity in a skin shop is mature, but seeing someone in a g-string in a strip club is adult? As if it really mattered.

And how much violence is "excessive"?

I think the best thing would be to disable this scheme by simply boycotting it. If no-one signs up for verification, and no-one flags anything as adult, we are left where we are today. LL can tell the suits that they have a system in place. If no-one uses it, LL can't take action against everyone. And definitions of adult are sufficiently elastic one can always argue any decision not to flag your parcel as adult - as this thread shows.
Kitty Barnett
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05-07-2007 02:05
From: Daisy Rimbaud
I think the best thing would be to disable this scheme by simply boycotting it. If no-one signs up for verification, and no-one flags anything as adult, we are left where we are today.
The blog post outlined what happens if the community fails to properly self-regulate its adult content, with mandatory age verification for everyone as a result.

I'd suggest finding out whether that's a hollow threat, or a serious consideration on their part before boycotting it or you may find yourself in a situation where you won't even have the option to not verify.
Colette Meiji
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05-07-2007 04:57
From: Daisy Rimbaud
Much of this thread is almost comical in its attempts to define adult - practically to the point of debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

So seeing an image of nudity in a skin shop is mature, but seeing someone in a g-string in a strip club is adult? As if it really mattered.

And how much violence is "excessive"?

I think the best thing would be to disable this scheme by simply boycotting it. If no-one signs up for verification, and no-one flags anything as adult, we are left where we are today. LL can tell the suits that they have a system in place. If no-one uses it, LL can't take action against everyone. And definitions of adult are sufficiently elastic one can always argue any decision not to flag your parcel as adult - as this thread shows.


Im a little perplexed at this myself.

Mature and Adult are often used interchangably for the same thing in the "Real world" to describe material of sexual/violent nature unsuitable for children.

For my part I was trying to make sure they werent doing this same thing in the Blog. Since the current content flag is called "mature" which they did not mention.

A Better word than Mature or Adult for this possible new catagory would be Explicit. Since thats apperhently the actual difference. Whatever that means.

I also agree with you I do not see a reason to differentiate between the two - other than they know if they cut off the now larger percentage of unverifed avatars from most of the SL world (including land they own) - there will be a considerable uproar.

While the idea behind the boycott is a good one - they've already suggested a catch 22. If we will not self regulate - they will require Age Verification for all residents.

What if Adult Content is not Flagged
We require that adult content be flagged. If Residents and businesses attempt to violate this rule, we expect that such behavior will be reported by the community. Although we want to limit age-verification processes to adult content and Teen Second Life, in the event we encounter abuses of self-regulation, Second Life may have to require age-verification throughout the world. We hope that does not happen.


(lol- just now noticed Kitty mentioned the same about the last part - to give credit where credit is due.)

Thats a good question as to whether SL will go through will it. However organizing a sucessful boycott in a place as disharmonious as Second Life? I somehow doubt its even possible. There's already people eager to limit content of a sexual nature in any way they can.
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05-07-2007 06:19
From: Colette Meiji
uproar.

While the idea behind the boycott is a good one - they've already suggested a catch 22. If we will not self regulate - they will require Age Verification for all residents.



They want us to self regulate and PAY for it. They should at least give us some input on the method used. But our opinions are no longer important to The Providers.
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Jig Chippewa
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05-07-2007 09:52
Lol Hydra! You made me laugh! Hey how about my little ivory leopard self with moon dark eyes meet your lesbian-bi av and we get it together in front of next Linden Town Hall. Then we both get with child (in SL time) and I produce another sullen Vampire kid to add to my brood (I already have 2 of them - SL advice is never let your av-kids meet each other) and you can have errrr ... an adrogynous pony with a dog thingummyjig (whoops my name!) for a puppy/baby.
See ya soon Sexy!
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