Are escorts next?

This would also apply to some forms of private wagering, but it did not keep the activity from being banned by LL.

Awwww. let's just get it over with. Ban Second Life and we can all pack up and go our way.

Could happen.

I agree, the only forms of gambling they can hope to ban are the kasinos, open bookmakers, and those few machines that some clubs and malls have out. a group playing poker or craps in a skybox has little to worry about.

I'm shocked -- SHOCKED -- to find gambling at Rick's!

It would be ironic if these two things happen (which I find fairly likely)

A nominal Escorting ban

Age/ Identity verification / Enforced mature content Flags.


End Result:

People will be able to still escort - since as you say theres no way for LL to monitor. However they wont want to risk their access to Second Life, so they will use an unverified account.

But sex is supposed to occur only on mature flagged parcels.

But unverified people cant go on mature parcels.

Thus more Escorting and Sex would exist on non Mature Flagged Parcels.

Damaging their own guidelines.

*sighs, waves hand*

Round up the usual suspects.

Ah but it will have to be well hidden or the morality police will go around reporting it and I think LL would be happy with that compromise.

The comparison to gambling is a flawed one. Escorting in SL is simply people paying for erotic chat -- it's more like phone sex (which is completely legal) than prostitution. Online gambling, on the other hand, whether in SL or elsewhere, is illegal by statute. Given the fact that it's really an exchange of Lindens for erotic text chats, I can't really see LL banning it. I could forsee perhaps more limitation of the location of sex-related business, akin to a beefed up zoning from what exists now (although I also think that's unlikely), but an outright ban seems far fetched to me, and in any case has nothing to do at all with the legal situation relating to online gambling.

Ageplay isn't illegal either between consenting adults. It's banned in second life. Try doing a search for Gothic Lolita clothing.

They're trying to clean this place up, they're not going to ban sex but they would like to move it away from the eye of the world and they will do this via id verfication and the excuse of making the place more broadly acceptable globally.

As an escort myself, and a male escort to boot. I can list dozens of reasons why people hire people like me. Many lack the social skills to to successfully "get lucky" in SL and thus resort to hiring an escort. Others don't want some emo chasing them around after knocking boots with them pledging their undying love. Most in my experience, just haven't made a lot of friends yet and are just looking for some companionship. Majority of my customers just take me out dancing or some other similar "dating" activity. *shrugs*

Escorting = Companionship.. what kind is up to the participants.

I hope newbies walking around with their weewees out are banned next.

It appears that there are several more points that NEED to be made, and among them is ... Truly sorry everyone else, but if you wanna play in our playgrounds you gotta follow our rules, because we don't get exemptions for you. And you really ought to respect that *we* have to follow them too, even our international companies.



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Please don't turn this into another America vs Europe spat. Can't we all just teach the world to sing in perfect harmony?

It's the oldies who do it who need banning, the newbies are just confused.

thats why the throw away accounts ..

rather then doing the activity on age verified acounts on property sexual content rated property.

Becuase they wouldnt want to be cuaght with an account that matters ..

I just pointed out the astoundingly obvious fact that our companies are bound by our laws, regardless of where our customers live. I couldn't care less about any kind of "nationalist pissing match", and don't intend to take part in one.


Didn't you say those exact same words on the other thread?

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Lol probably hehe

Covered the local laws trump internet laws deal a couple of pages back. I think my wall-o-text murdered them though- it took a 24 hour thread resurrection to get past it o.o



If it walks like a kid, talks like a kid, and acts like a kid, mass media has difficulty distinguishing it from an actual child.
"SL allows child pornography" is a lot different from "SL allows pornography." to the vast majority of people- and newspapers want headlines not:
"SL allows sex between two consenting adults one who dresses up a pixelated avatar to simulate a child" vs "SL allows sex between consenting adults who dress up their adult avatars."

In the world of media soundbites- "child" "children" "underage" and "pornography" "sex" should not meet. Period. The legality and qualifiers (dressed as, consenting adults, etc, pixelated, imaginary) simply don't matter, it's a social taboo.

Many social taboos don't *need* law enforcement. Don't leave your best friends little sister pregnant and unmarried. Don't have sex with animals. (That's actually pretty unlegislated in many areas) Children are off limits for sexual encounters. Don't have sex with your boss just for the promotions. No sex with kids. Don't stiff the pizza guy on his tip. Don't proposition random strangers for sex- even unpaid. Don't flip off your girlfriends father on the first date. Don't have sex with children.

Even if you somehow made it "okay" to screw your best friends little sister and not own up to the consequences it doesn't make it *right*. Even if it's a pixelated brother or a pixelated pregnancy. Even if you both agree before hand. Even if the drama llama drops down from on high and gives you his blessing. It's just not right.

It's a taboo. It's something we simply *don't* do in the polite world. Can you? Sure. It may, in fact, be perfectly legal. Even if it's not going to get you jail time, you might very well wish it had once it hits your social network.

Thats the difference between pixel sex between consenting adults using child avatars and pixel sex between consenting adults using adult avatars. One happens every day. Lots. Sex makes the world go 'round. It's a necessary biological function of procreation, and a hell of a lot of fun even if you're not looking to "be fruitful". The other is only legal because it's pixels and if it happens in real life you can say hello to Bubba in the prison showers. It's a technicality (and an important one, to be honest) but LL wasn't willing to explain over and over and over again that it's JUST pixelated avatars and they're controlled by adults.

One attracts customers (lets be serious- it does.) One certainly doesn't and gets the company bad publicity anyways.

There's no such thing as Escorting in Second Life, it's really just Phone Sex/Cyber Sex.

Escorting is not illegal , actually look around in newspapers , Escort ad's fill the back pages of minor newspapers all around the USA, also cybersex, or virtual sex is not illegal with Consenting adults .. acording to the law it falls under phone sex, which is perfectally legal in the United states look at all the chat rooms, and 1-800/ 1-900 advertised in porn mags , late night tv

Legality is not at issue. LL is not a government. They have every right to regulate activities in SL as they see fit. You may not appeal their ruling to a higher court.

Ok, I'm new but I dont see what the problem is. This is fake, not real sex. Granted I've never seen an escort in SL. I've been to one or two of the sexual sites but didn't see any slaves/voilence. Truefully they were kinda funny, not hardcore porn. Maybe I've just not explored the world yet to see all this. How can you kill your person here? Does it show blood? Seems kinda stupid. Are there gangs in SL? Are there strip clubs here? I've only been to places like the beach and stuff. This is a cartoon people. If somebody thinks otherwise they have some serious mental problems besides fake sex. Also if a minor gets on here and see/hears something sexual that's not this sites fault. That is the parent that is not supervising their kid. Maybe I'm just missing the whole point here....