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Yron Dryke
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05-25-2007 21:42
wow i juust cant belibe sl dont work on my new comp just becuse i have an intel graphic card,i cant belive sl dont make it run too,thats sucks i dont have other words for this.maybe the intel graphic cards arent soo good but they work well and with that i was suposed to be easily able to play lil game *** like sl. sorrry ijust neeed to say that thats make me sooo angry
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-25-2007 22:45
get mad at the ppl who sold you a new computer with the intel card
and be mad at your self for buying the new computer without looking at the system requirements of this lil game LL states Nvidia or ATI becuase those are the only 2 branfs with the full directx and open GL featuresets + enugh power to do moderen 3d graphics |
Dnel DaSilva
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05-25-2007 22:54
Its well documented that Intel cards don't work well or at all.
SL is far from a 'lil game', its one of the most computational intensive games out there. _____________________
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Yron Dryke
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05-25-2007 23:44
anyway ya u right i need to be angry about myself about ignoring that,but lol be serious sl take only 2 type of cards loool nvidia and ati ....So are u kidding me???
anyway thats not a surprise everyday i see sl go bad soo lol that not surprise at all |
Dnel DaSilva
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05-25-2007 23:48
Umm ATI and nVidia are the only 2 real graphic chip makers out there, so ya, only those two.
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Atashi Yue
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05-25-2007 23:49
It won't work at all?
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-25-2007 23:50
Umm ATI and nVidia are the only 2 real graphic chip makers out there, so ya, only those two. ditto, those are the only 2 brands that are (again) fully directx and open gl complient, the 2 things that make realtime 3d work go down to the mall (or whatever) and look at 3d computer games, you will only see those 2 logos on the box even video game consoles use them, xbox, ps3 = nvidia xbox360, nintendo GC & wii = ATI and again its not SL, linden labs choose the best for their useage (open gl becuase it cross platform compatible) |
Dnel DaSilva
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05-25-2007 23:52
It won't work at all? Intel graphics are unsupported, they are not meant for 3D apps, if they work you are lucky, and any update could render them useless at anytime. Best to avoid them at all costs for really any computer you plan to do more than surf the net and grab your email. _____________________
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Atashi Yue
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05-25-2007 23:57
Intel graphics are unsupported, they are not meant for 3D apps, if they work you are lucky, and any update could render them useless at anytime. Best to avoid them at all costs for really any computer you plan to do more than surf the net and grab your email. Wow. I'm an Nvidia fan but wow that so many off the shelf folks would be locked out. |
Osgeld Barmy
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05-26-2007 00:01
Wow. I'm an Nvidia fan but wow that so many off the shelf folks would be locked out. intel mucles their crap onto the big box boys, so yes alot of the all around pc's with intel cpus tend to have intel video, go look at compaq's base models the low end one is a intel with intel gfx 1 model up is a amd with a nvidia its basicly the same story with all the big box boys, untill you start spending some money on a machine thats got the gamer label attached to it (dell xps) |
Yron Dryke
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05-26-2007 00:30
yeah im calling back my store but i think thats ridiculous to have only 2 graphic card on the market,and i think moore ridiculous to sell this fucking card with a new comp...anyway sorry for these bad w ords but needed to say
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05-26-2007 01:11
yeah im calling back my store but i think thats ridiculous to have only 2 graphic card on the market,and i think moore ridiculous to sell this fucking card with a new comp...anyway sorry for these bad w ords but needed to say There are many more then just 2 cards that are supported, there are just designers of cards that are supported. There are many manufacturers and models of cards that are supported, they just all have either and ATI or an Nvidia chipset. _____________________
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Yron Dryke
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05-26-2007 01:26
ok thanks for ansewring i apreciate it try to make me understand,but the only things i do now is to gettin moore angry thats fuck up i buy a new great comp and doesnt work with this only game i actually play lool
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Zor Zeddmore
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05-26-2007 02:01
Most of the intel graphics cards still do have a APG or a PCI Express slot though, so you can buy a graphics card that works and put it in.
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Teeny Leviathan
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05-26-2007 04:32
Most of the intel graphics cards still do have a APG or a PCI Express slot though, so you can buy a graphics card that works and put it in. Thats ok as long as its not a laptop. Otherwise, the OP might consider returning the computer if it isn't too late or too difficult (ordered from internet). _____________________
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Shippo Goodliffe
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05-26-2007 04:49
I feel like the OP is confused...
There's two different "companies" that produce graphics cards. One is Nvidia, one is ATI. Nvidia and ATI make many many different cards, not just one each. There's probably hundreds of graphics cards out there, it's just that there's only two different names to publish or whatever. But with Nvidia there's stiff different sub-makers like BFG, EVGA, stuff like that, but they're still Nvidia cards. If you show us what PC you bought we can help you find the right video card to upgrade to, because most store bought PCs don't come with high end graphics cards... |
Cal Kondo
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05-26-2007 06:19
I have Intel graphics in my laptop and it works fine... for now. What I find interesting about this issue though is.. LL make a big deal about SL being a platform for corporations to run virtual meetings and such. But I'd be sure that most corporations don't buy high end gaming PCs for there drones to have virtual meetings on. So I'm picking that while Intel may not be officialy supported there is a motivation to keep it workable on these lower end graphics.
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Jannae Karas
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05-26-2007 06:33
My laptop with an SIS card runs SL. Not well mind you, but it runs well enough to get around. Only do that if I have to (on the road, away from home). Everything looks good, but movement lag is significant.
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Sterling Whitcroft
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05-26-2007 08:05
The keys to any graphics card 'working' are Open GL and DirectX. Intel graphics that adhere to those open standards will probably work.
The keys to any graphics care working 'well' are dedicated graphics memory first, a wide data bus second, and a fast clock third. Most 'entry' level computers use graphics that are built onto the main system board. That's Intel's approach, for example. As long as you're installing an Intel CPU, why not solder an Intel 'G'PU onto the same board. THese 'integrated' motherboards have limited if any dedicated graphics memory, they share it with the rest of your computer. This severely hobbles their speed. The good news is that for less than $100 USD you can buy a separate graphics card and install it in the entry level desktop computers. A laptop's capabilities, however, are pretty much frozen in time the moment it leaves the factory. |
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05-26-2007 08:29
Cory touched on this point a bit during the last town hall. This is a VERY important observation. There are discussions taking place about how to push the client to better support lower end graphics hardware, while at the same time taking full advantage of high end gear and latest OpenGL standards. Tricky business, but you're spot on here.. each new viewer release can leave the cheap Intel chipsets further out on a limb, and the vast majority of business laptops sitting on conference tables around the world employ these chipsets. It's a back burner issue for now, while focus is on scaling and stability. (and pretty skies). Eventually they're going to have to come to Jesus on it.
I have Intel graphics in my laptop and it works fine... for now. What I find interesting about this issue though is.. LL make a big deal about SL being a platform for corporations to run virtual meetings and such. But I'd be sure that most corporations don't buy high end gaming PCs for there drones to have virtual meetings on. So I'm picking that while Intel may not be officialy supported there is a motivation to keep it workable on these lower end graphics. _____________________
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Yron Dryke
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05-26-2007 17:59
yeah but u said work on a lower graphic card lol my new intel is a 256 mb and my old comp is about a ati of about humm 32 mo soooo lol big difference what ever the compagnie or whatever it is....i just cant go in the game whatever i do in preference lower resolution or other things doesnt work...i just dont understand the incompatibility my new card is far to be better than the last old one i had soo its not supose to do that....but whatever we always have good things with sl thats not a surprise for me now i have to call back dell and try se what i can do to pu this dam geforce card in it
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05-26-2007 18:46
There's two different "companies" that produce graphics cards. One is Nvidia, one is ATI. Nvidia and ATI make many many different cards, not just one each. There's probably hundreds of graphics cards out there, it's just that there's only two different names to publish or whatever. But with Nvidia there's stiff different sub-makers like BFG, EVGA, stuff like that, but they're still Nvidia cards. If you show us what PC you bought we can help you find the right video card to upgrade to, because most store bought PCs don't come with high end graphics cards... ATI makes video cards. AMD also supplies other manufacturers with video chipsets to put on their cards. Nvidia (aside from non-retail reference boards) does not make video cards. They supply other manufacturers with chipsets to put on their cards. At one time, all ATI cards were made by ATI, but in recent years, they became suppliers so they could compete with Nvidia. _____________________
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-26-2007 18:55
yeah but u said work on a lower graphic card lol my new intel is a 256 mb and my old comp is about a ati of about humm 32 mo soooo lol big difference what ever the compagnie or whatever it is....i just cant go in the game whatever i do in preference lower resolution or other things doesnt work...i just dont understand the incompatibility my new card is far to be better than the last old one i had soo its not supose to do that....but whatever we always have good things with sl thats not a surprise for me now i have to call back dell and try se what i can do to pu this dam geforce card in it your new card is using 256mb of your system ram, which is like 100x slower than whats on a real video card its not better than your old card, its raw speed is nothing, it uses shared ram (see above) and it just plain ol doesnt support the features needed |
Yron Dryke
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05-26-2007 20:13
hahahahhaha lool.man ive buy this dam old comp 5 years ago and u come tel me here my new one isnt aleast a bit better^^ loooool
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-26-2007 21:50
since you never gave a model number ...
if its a 800 series it was designed 10 ish years ago if its a 900 series it was designed 5ish to 2 years ago (depending on the model) im sorry you cant get this in your head, i and others have told you and countless other pep's that intel is just not designed for 3d applications (do a forum search) its sole point is to be a cheap graphics chipset, it is designed to display basic 2d information like basic windows functions email web ect and frankly it does a piss poor job of doing that too, ive got a old celeron (1.5ghz) hooked up to the tv for video, music, and oldschool games, and the intel graphics couldnt cope with it very well, i dropped in a trident video card i bought for 2$ and instantly gained a 34% speed improvement i later dropped in a geforce 2 GTS that i bought in 2001 and gained another 75% speed improvement over that, and now that computer will run SL at about 20 fps, the intel graphics could barley display smooth dvd playback from your discription your old card is probally a 7000 series radieon, while that was a really cheap budget card with little memory it was better in this case that 7000 series ati card would run SL (probally not good but it ran) this intel just simply cant becuase its crap im done here good luck with dell and or a new video card, if you have a slot i saw some el crappyo geforce 6200's for 40 bucks on newegg.com |