Poll: What Is SL?
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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04-24-2007 18:43
From: AJ DaSilva OT, but I reckon an over-inflated sense of "the innocence of children" and an (as far as I can tell) unfounded desire to force them to keep it as long as possible causes more problems than children getting access to media they shouldn't. But, meh. OT, perhaps.But quite profound. We want to insulate our children from all negative influence, shield them from all potential danger. Noble, yes. Practical, no. In the end we are doing them a great disservice.
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Rusty Satyr
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Join date: 19 Feb 2004
Posts: 610
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04-25-2007 09:43
From: AJ DaSilva OT, but I reckon an over-inflated sense of "the innocence of children" and an (as far as I can tell) unfounded desire to force them to keep it as long as possible causes more problems than children getting access to media they shouldn't. But, meh. (more ot) Personally, I favor helping kids develop "street smarts" for their own protection rather than hoping sheltering them will preserve and prepare them for adulthood. But I respect that some people prefer sheltering their young from hard and, perhaps, unnecessary lessons that life can dole out. It takes a village... My own philosophy towards innocence is that it is like wood. You can build a shelter out of it, and block out the world, or you can burn it all in a short-lived bonfire by 'living too fast'. I think it was intended to be used as torches, burning a stick up at a time to illuminate parts of life that we were previously ignorant of. When one refuses to risk their own innocence, or has none left to lose... I think they become unable and unwilling to be dazzled by discovering new experiences, which to me, is rather sad.
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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04-25-2007 09:54
depends though on the age of the kid and whether they are capable of understanding it. There were occassions and still are where kids dont understand the violence think it causes no harm and go out and commit some due to their age and the fact they just aren't ready to tell the difference. This is usualy what people are talking about.
Here is an example its a personal one but it shows i just didn't have the ability to tell what was real at that age (i was maybe 3). There is a cereal that has a bird a tucan come out of it (can't remember the name). He was in all the commercials at the time. The commercial had it so that when you opened the box this bird came out of it. Well being the age I was and not understanding yet I bothered my mother to buy the cereal actualy thinking this bird was gonna come outa the box. Well he didn't of course and I was disappointed. My mother before hand warned me the bird was not in there and explained it all to me so i had that info but of course I didn't believe it all so i had to see it for myself as i was convinced this bird was in the box lo. I was very disappointed that I didn't get this bird coming outa the cereal box into my bowl to chat me up at breaky ^^
Then there is a more gorry story that was on the news that I remember when I was a teenager. A kid not old but old enough to try it saw a movie where a guy was shot and then saw the next episode (well show I guess it was a series a cartoon series actually) where the guy was then fine and all in one piece again. He took his dads shot gun and killed his dad thinking he was going to be okay he thought it was all a joke and in good fun .
So sure dont shelter the kids but dont expose them to stuff that they aren't mentally able to process yet and this is where I think a lot of people dont get it.
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Cocoanut Koala
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Join date: 7 Feb 2005
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04-25-2007 12:12
I hope more people will participate in this poll.
coco
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AJ DaSilva
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Join date: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,993
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04-25-2007 12:14
From: Cocoanut Koala I hope more people will participate in this poll.
coco Wasn't going to, but since I derailed the thread for a few posts I thought I would. I voted "pie" since it was the closest to my opinion.
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Xio Jester
Killed the King.
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 813
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04-25-2007 12:38
I use the phrase 3-D Web a lot...so I voted a collection of 3D websites of course...
The fact that you can have an avatar and "go to clubs, casinos and parties", just stems from the visual element of the avatar, along with the introduction of features that had previously only been used in videogames and simulations, like collision detection (objects bumpin into each other) and other programmed physics.
That's why I just see it as the web w/ some kool plug-ins and add-on features.
You can shop on the web too, ya know?
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Rusty Satyr
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Join date: 19 Feb 2004
Posts: 610
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04-25-2007 14:21
From: Cocoanut Koala I hope more people will participate in this poll.
I like the poll, (but) I have problems with some of the wording which I think will cause serious skewing: "Primarily a collection of 3d websites", honestly, should get no responses, because sims and parcels aren't "websites" 3d or otherwise. A few, that understand the angle of the poll, obviously went with the option anyway. I did, even though I knew it felt "wrong".  Were I to attempt phrasing it... I might have gone with: "The secondlife grid is more of a virtual world modeled closely after RL, and is a place where people can have real jobs and private lives, and behave according to the same rules and social expectations that exist in RL." "The secondlife grid is more like a 3d-web, where people can "surf", share content, sell things to each other, "chat" and game, and behave according to a locally established set rules and social expectations that have little to do with RL."
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Cocoanut Koala
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Join date: 7 Feb 2005
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04-26-2007 11:09
From: Rusty Satyr I like the poll, (but) I have problems with some of the wording which I think will cause serious skewing: "Primarily a collection of 3d websites", honestly, should get no responses, because sims and parcels aren't "websites" 3d or otherwise. A few, that understand the angle of the poll, obviously went with the option anyway. I did, even though I knew it felt "wrong". Were I to attempt phrasing it... I might have gone with: "The secondlife grid is more of a virtual world modeled closely after RL, and is a place where people can have real jobs and private lives, and behave according to the same rules and social expectations that exist in RL." "The secondlife grid is more like a 3d-web, where people can "surf", share content, sell things to each other, "chat" and game, and behave according to a locally established set rules and social expectations that have little to do with RL." Well, Rusty, I wouldn't word it that way, because I know of no place on the web that doesn't behave according to the same rules and social expectations that exist in real life. To sum up this poll, it has consistantly run about 6-1 in favor of world over collection of interrelated websites, with 3 not caring. coco
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AJ DaSilva
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Join date: 15 Jun 2005
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04-26-2007 11:12
I didn't vote pie because I don't care. I voted pie because I didn't think either of the other options made sense in the big picture.
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Gillian Waldman
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Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
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04-26-2007 11:14
Ditto AJ. I care but those two options didn't work for me.
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Kaklick Martin
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Join date: 3 Oct 2005
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04-26-2007 14:33
Same here, even though my comments were misinterpreted to mean that I agreed w/ "Virtual World" I really and truly mean it's at least both of those things, because it's a platform that is whatever you make it (and make of it). And... I LIKE PIE! 
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