even bigger? fading/history? an addiction? so tired/boring ? owned by google? have 10 continents? graphics will be more life like? a competitor is now #1 ?
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Alan Bamboo
summer
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05-16-2007 18:40
even bigger? fading/history? an addiction? so tired/boring ? owned by google? have 10 continents? graphics will be more life like? a competitor is now #1 ?
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
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05-16-2007 18:48
Owned by Google.
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Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 18:50
Gone or owned by another group.
I think this age verification will have an impact far greater then the few who love it will admit, if SL loses...say...40% of their current paying customers, they lose a ton of money, SL starts running in the red again, less lindens are bought, sims go unused, the red line increases, money is lost by LL, the plug will be pulled, or SL will be sold. |
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
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05-16-2007 19:02
Gone or owned by another group. I think this age verification will have an impact far greater then the few who love it will admit, if SL loses...say...40% of their current paying customers, they lose a ton of money, SL starts running in the red again, less lindens are bought, sims go unused, the red line increases, money is lost by LL, the plug will be pulled, or SL will be sold. Well, while I have some pretty strong feelings about how that verification process is going to be implemented, I strongly suspect that the impact in terms of number of residents or number of Lindens being bought will be insignificant in the long run. Guess we'll have to see ![]() . _____________________
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Paul Llewelyn
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05-16-2007 19:03
Actually I think it will be alot like it is now.
Yes Age verification is going to make an impact but with all the other huge imapct events I have seen over my years in SL one thing becomes clear. For every person that leaves (and stays gone) 10 newbs will sign up. In 6 months we will be on to our next grid ending crises. ![]() |
Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
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05-16-2007 19:05
Definitely not gone.
Unless they do something really really stupid. |
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
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05-16-2007 19:35
Reminds me a bit of world of warcraft. That was in the right place at the right time and so was SL. Competitors are coming for both so any sort of fragmentation could play right into the hands of their competitors.
The age verification is an issue that will split opinion and ruin businesses. Whether other businesses and users make up that loss is something we'll have to see, however SL will not wither and die in six months. |
Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
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05-16-2007 19:39
Age verification is only needed to get into adult flagged areas though, I thought.
I cant see that as having too much of an impact, not everyone is here for sex and digital pr0n. |
Kamael Xevious
Dreams are like water
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05-16-2007 19:41
We'll probably see another growth spurt after the introduction of Voice, so any loss from Age Verification is likely to be off-set by that. Barring anything catestrophic (like the earth opening up and swallowing the colos) I have no doubts that SL will still be here. (There.com, for example, has seen far worse boo-boos in its lifetime, and it's still a going concern, though for the life of me, I can't imagine why.)
That said, voice and sculpties are going to have a HUGE impact on the way SL looks and "feels"--far more than any change so far. We've seen changes match either one of these in terms of impact (p2p teleporting, for example), but I don't remember any such two huge advances in the client since I've been here (3 years). Someone from 2002 or 2003 can probably think of something (going to open beta, for example), but for the vast majority of residents, this summer is going to represent the largest evolutionary jump for SL in their secondlifetime. Kam _____________________
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Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 19:42
Age verification is only needed to get into adult flagged areas though, I thought. I cant see that as having too much of an impact, not everyone is here for sex and digital pr0n. Anywhere with sex OR violence |
Lexii Walcott
...rezzing
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05-16-2007 19:42
Six months from now I think SL will still be around.
It will still be giving us migraines and plenty of things to bi**h about. Hopefully six months from now I will still be in SL popping migraine meds and bit*hing. Yep, I AM addicted, I may get confused and may complain every now and then, but... I DO love my Second Life!! |
Breeze Winnfield
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6 months from now
05-16-2007 19:43
6 months from now there will be a number of 3d worlds coming out, produced by major companies with lots of large MMO experience and employing state of the art hardware/software. If SL is still the mess it is currently, it will become a footnote as the precursor of better, more scalable platforms.
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Kenn Nilsson
AeonVox
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05-16-2007 19:43
I HOPE that 6 months from now SL will have a neutralized platform/open source server code...and begin massive expansion into what our grandchildren will think the internet has always been.
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
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05-16-2007 19:47
SL will be here running about the same with all the problems and conflicts. It'll be a little less arrogant though..........there will be competition and there will be people who will leave for that competition.
On the competition note: There will be some sort of age verification with the ability to tie any "resident" to a real life identity. Surely you don't think for a minute that a competitor will get in the same pickle SL is in. ![]() |
Egil Milner
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05-16-2007 19:48
... still lagging and still full of the clueless, the perverts, and the ones who sit and cluck their tongues. And still holding these little islands of wacky creativity that make the rest of it in part bearable and in part harder to bear.
Once those little worlds where creative individuals hold sway are bulldozed by SLVirtualStarbucksCapitalOneCNNland, then Second Life will be well and truly dead. Too bad that that's probably Linden Lab's business plan... though who can blame them? This has been an awfully expensive beta test, and I'm sure they're looking to profit as soon and as well as they can. |
Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
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05-16-2007 20:00
full of wonderful sculpty prims by skill and talented artists; full of students taking classes; communities growing...and karaoke clubs because of voice!
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Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 20:04
full of wonderful sculpty prims by skill and talented artists; full of students taking classes; communities growing...and karaoke clubs because of voice! Those new things make me giggle, they still haven't got it functioning from all the old things they added, like flexi prims, but they wanna add new ones, like IDing, and sculpted prims |
Lexii Walcott
...rezzing
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05-16-2007 20:05
full of wonderful sculpty prims by skill and talented artists; full of students taking classes; communities growing...and karaoke clubs because of voice! <PERK> Karaoke???? Oh man, I am sooo still going to be here now.. karaoke rules!! |
Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
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05-16-2007 20:13
16 Nov 2007.
It's Friday evening, the week before the United States Thanksgiving holiday. The clock has just been 'put ahead' for daylight savings time a couple weeks prior. It's dark now, and cold on the east coast of the United States, kids are digging through school, parents mumbling over plans for the extended weekend. Meanwhile in Europe it's wickedly cold and dark, wet, and people are curling up behind their computers. People flee to Second Life en masse, as they haven't for 8 or 9 months, in search of a little escape from responsibilities. * * * * * For most, it's been a year. Noobness of 4Q06 and 1Q07 has worn off; the steep learning curve of the grid has mostly been ascended. Between returning users and the new mainstream acceptance, growth is explosive. The grid is working better than ever before - far from perfect, but people sort of 'get it'. The Company is prepared for the land boom and the staggering climb in concurrency at this time, not caught with their collective pants down. Concurrency is running about 50,000 (not quite); LindeX daily volume is around 100,000,000 (again, not quite) and the $L still hovers at 266 by market controls. Growth is strong but not nearly by percentage as big as 4Q06. Nothing radically new is coming out at this time. The market is too hot; the Company is trying the best it can not to Krispy Kreme itself and flame out. While all of this is old news to us, the mainstream populace begins to understand the term 'metaverse.' It is mentioned more frequently in common culture, but less in the news. There will still be huge debates, but over more obscure, esoteric issues; the baseline of expectation of what the metaverse will be has been set. One common, repeated theme: those who thought the boom was over, and opportunity scarce in 2007, will be even more surprised than those who thought the same thing in 2004. Open sourced gridspace will appear (someone will cook up something compelling) but it remains a largely academic excercise. The people, the dollars and the content are still on the SL grid; true open source is still a faraway dream. That's my best guess. _____________________
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Pie Psaltery
runs w/scissors
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05-16-2007 20:36
...pretty much the same as it was 6 months ago, or 6 months before that, with a few new features that work most of the time for an awful lot of people ...usually, a silly controversy that detracts from the real issues on the grid, noobs with prim penises on thier heads, the grumblings of the forum, gangstas and griefers giddy with dreams of world-domination, and a few really creative people discovering thier muse in this little pixelated world of ours.
Major companys will come and a few will probably go by then, the media will want to move on from the Second Life stories but those freaky avatars do the darn-dest things, Robin and Phillip will be hospitalized for Jerking-Knee Syndrome, but will relief will wash over the grid when it's found to not be life-threatening. For 6 months now, more or less, I've been on an "I hate this place" kick. 6 months from now I will most likely be falling in love with it all over again. _____________________
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
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05-16-2007 20:42
What? No one leaving because of age/ID verification? From the sound of everyone on these forums for the last couple weeks, I would think SL would be a ghost town with only "verified pervs" remaining. LOL
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
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05-16-2007 20:43
Well said, and more likely to be right than most, I believe. I love it when you do that
![]() 16 Nov 2007. It's Friday evening, the week before the United States Thanksgiving holiday. The clock has just been 'put ahead' for daylight savings time a couple weeks prior. It's dark now, and cold on the east coast of the United States, kids are digging through school, parents mumbling over plans for the extended weekend. Meanwhile in Europe it's wickedly cold and dark, wet, and people are curling up behind their computers. People flee to Second Life en masse, as they haven't for 8 or 9 months, in search of a little escape from responsibilities. * * * * * For most, it's been a year. Noobness of 4Q06 and 1Q07 has worn off; the steep learning curve of the grid has mostly been ascended. Between returning users and the new mainstream acceptance, growth is explosive. The grid is working better than ever before - far from perfect, but people sort of 'get it'. The Company is prepared for the land boom and the staggering climb in concurrency at this time, not caught with their collective pants down. Concurrency is running about 50,000 (not quite); LindeX daily volume is around 100,000,000 (again, not quite) and the $L still hovers at 266 by market controls. Growth is strong but not nearly by percentage as big as 4Q06. Nothing radically new is coming out at this time. The market is too hot; the Company is trying the best it can not to Krispy Kreme itself and flame out. While all of this is old news to us, the mainstream populace begins to understand the term 'metaverse.' It is mentioned more frequently in common culture, but less in the news. There will still be huge debates, but over more obscure, esoteric issues; the baseline of expectation of what the metaverse will be has been set. One common, repeated theme: those who thought the boom was over, and opportunity scarce in 2007, will be even more surprised than those who thought the same thing in 2004. Open sourced gridspace will appear (someone will cook up something compelling) but it remains a largely academic excercise. The people, the dollars and the content are still on the SL grid; true open source is still a faraway dream. That's my best guess. _____________________
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Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
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05-16-2007 20:43
full of wonderful sculpty prims by skill and talented artists; full of students taking classes; communities growing...and karaoke clubs because of voice! zomaigah! i didnt even think of this, I sure hope there are kareoke events I LOVE KAREOKE! I cant stop laughing when I go to one. |
Isablan Neva
Mystic
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05-16-2007 21:02
What? No one leaving because of age/ID verification? From the sound of everyone on these forums for the last couple weeks, I would think SL would be a ghost town with only "verified pervs" remaining. LOL All the people here exclusively for anonymous pixel slapping have indeed left for Redlight Center where any credit card will buy you lovin', no RL identity required. They have been replaced by yet another wave of newbies for whom age verification has always been in SL. Much like kids today have no idea that there once was a time when cable television and cell phones didn't exist... Other than than, what Desmond said. ![]() _____________________
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Rusalka Renoir
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05-16-2007 21:27
All the people here exclusively for anonymous pixel slapping have indeed left for Redlight Center where any credit card will buy you lovin', no RL identity required. They have been replaced by yet another wave of newbies for whom age verification has always been in SL. Much like kids today have no idea that there once was a time when cable television and cell phones didn't exist... Other than than, what Desmond said. ![]() Add to the "Pixel Slapping" folks leaving - all those who think the whole trend of demanding more and more invasion of privacy to do things like playing a game is obscene. Far more obsence than virtual sex. SL, regardless of whatever else it may be, is a game. There are other games, probably soon even cooler, community created fabulous games. And if all the games eventually demand that I sacrifice my person information to a Republican data mining company to play them as well, well, there is always Scrabble. ![]() |