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I saw a woman, an attendee, trying to take some pictures, and one of the Lindens, young girl said to her. Don't take photographs! We want to stay anonymous!! she was very ill mannered, and then what do they do? They walk around taking photos.
I've heard that the Lindens don't all go to church, either.
I was appalled when I first read the invitation to the job fair the Lindens put out, in which they explicitly stated their job-fair methodology, which was like a parody of the Snowcrash elitism and FIC stuff that I always accuse them of...come to real life.
They consciously stated that there'd be a party on one floor, where there'd be a kind of cattle call, and only if a Linden liked your looks, would you be invited to *another* area, a VIP lounge, exclusively, to which others would be barred. Imagine!
I suppose this is what passes for California Cool these days? I rely on Spin Martin to explain this to us.I can't imagine why anyone would come to a "job fair" (read: introductory cult meeting) in which the rules of the road involve standing around and trying to get noticed, and then watching while some people are noticed and whisked away to a VIP lounge and the rest shat upon. NO thanks.
Programmers in computer software firms aren't normally tested on their ability to speak up in a group at an open bar, are they? Don't geeks tend to be known for their lack of social skills?
And they can pay the younger ones less, don't forget that. Do job fairs normally go like this? Do ANY go like this? I haven't heard of a worse, more socially inept thing in ages! Actually, ever. Who would want to work for a company that went out of their way to make people feel awkward and bad like this?
You could just as easily meet everyone, then invite the ones you like best to a second meeting later. And we wonder why things go on like the orientation areas being handed out to their favorites. They really think this is the way to do things! Talk about a cult - talk about ass-kissing - if you want to get a bunch of ass-kissers who think they are in something super-secret and super-special, recruit this way.
It rather infuriates me that Linden Lab are wasting money on such unnecessary extravagance - money that is paid for by your monthly fees and mine. If only they'd do things the PROPER way instead of trying to be all "hip and trendy" - and failing dismally - then Second Life might be a better experience.
My impression was that Linden Lab was trying extremely hard to be "hip", and in that attempt created an unprofessional, unproductive, and uncomfortable recruitment environment.
SL is the only thing in it's kind... But it runs crappily. F*** pretty skies, I want stability, and to be able to find my stuff in my inventory when I need it, not after relogging 50 bloody times before it *might* show up. 50 relogs is about the time I have between work and bedtime.
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06-07-2007 10:53
Wait. Wait. Are you saying that people don't normally hold job interviews in bars?
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06-07-2007 10:56
Yeah from what I've observed they have more of a "hip as us" approach vs. a "have skills that could benefit our company" approach towards hiring. It's funny because it's like the dot commers that time forgot.
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06-07-2007 10:56
Wait. Wait. Are you saying that people don't normally hold job interviews in bars? That would explain a lot....... _____________________
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06-07-2007 11:01
Yeah from what I've observed they have more of a "hip as us" approach vs. a "have skills that could benefit our company" approach towards hiring. It's funny because it's like the dot commers that time forgot. I love capitalism! What is Hip? *By Tower of Power* So you wanna dump out yo trick bag, Ease on into a hip bag. But you ain't just exactly sure what's hip. So you start to let your hair grow. Spent big bucks on your wardrobe. But somehow you know there's much more to the trip. What is hip? Tell me tell me, if you think ya know. What is hip? And if you're really hip, the passing years will show, That you into a hip trip, maybe hipper than hip. But what is hip? So you became part of the new breed. Been smoking only the best weed. Hanging out with so-called hippest set. Been seen in all the right places, Seen with just the right faces. You should be satisfied, But still it ain't quite right. What is hip? Tell me tell me if you think you know. What is hip? And if you're really hip. The passing years would show, That you into a hip trip, maybe hipper than hip. What is hip? Hipness is what it is Sometimes hipness is what it ain't You done went and found you a guru, In an effort to find you a new you. And maybe even managed to raise your conscience level. As you're striving to find the right road, There's one thing you should know: What's hip today might become passe'. What is hip? Tell me tell me if you think you know. What is hip? And if you're really hip, the passing years would show That you into a hip trip. Maybe hipper than hip. What is hip? _____________________
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06-07-2007 11:06
Leave it to the Herald to spin an innocuous event into a grand conspiracy theory.
 OMG FIC!!11!! And what the hell does the Lindens' church attendance habits have to do with anything? What was the point of this post? The Herald is not the place to go to get the opinion of the "average SL goer." It's the place to go to get the opinion of the lunatic fringe._____________________
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06-07-2007 11:08
haha my dad plays that song all the time!
What is Hip? *By Tower of Power* So you wanna dump out yo trick bag, Ease on into a hip bag. But you ain't just exactly sure what's hip. So you start to let your hair grow. Spent big bucks on your wardrobe. But somehow you know there's much more to the trip. What is hip? Tell me tell me, if you think ya know. What is hip? And if you're really hip, the passing years will show, That you into a hip trip, maybe hipper than hip. But what is hip? So you became part of the new breed. Been smoking only the best weed. Hanging out with so-called hippest set. Been seen in all the right places, Seen with just the right faces. You should be satisfied, But still it ain't quite right. What is hip? Tell me tell me if you think you know. What is hip? And if you're really hip. The passing years would show, That you into a hip trip, maybe hipper than hip. What is hip? Hipness is what it is Sometimes hipness is what it ain't You done went and found you a guru, In an effort to find you a new you. And maybe even managed to raise your conscience level. As you're striving to find the right road, There's one thing you should know: What's hip today might become passe'. What is hip? Tell me tell me if you think you know. What is hip? And if you're really hip, the passing years would show That you into a hip trip. Maybe hipper than hip. What is hip? _____________________
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06-07-2007 12:43
Leave it to the Herald to spin an innocuous event into a grand conspiracy theory. OMG FIC!!11!! And what the hell does the Lindens' church attendance habits have to do with anything? What was the point of this post? The Herald is not the place to go to get the opinion of the "average SL goer." It's the place to go to get the opinion of the lunatic fringe.okay now this just made me laugh so hard I have to go clean my computer screen thanks  *runs to get the windex* |
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06-07-2007 13:01
This post is brilliant. It manages to troll from so many angles yet still tie in all of the trolling lines into one grand fishnet of flamedom.
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06-07-2007 13:04
The literary style of theOP is hauntingly familiar.
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06-07-2007 13:10
I can only guess who wrote that article, before even going there to check.
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06-07-2007 13:10
Indeed.
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06-07-2007 13:25
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Brendan Meili
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06-07-2007 14:03
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06-07-2007 16:04
http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/06/lindens_job_fai.html#more Comments Collected and put Together: I saw a woman, an attendee, trying to take some pictures, and one of the Lindens, young girl said to her. Don't take photographs! We want to stay anonymous!! she was very ill mannered, and then what do they do? They walk around taking photos. I've heard that the Lindens don't all go to church, either. I was appalled when I first read the invitation to the job fair the Lindens put out, in which they explicitly stated their job-fair methodology, which was like a parody of the Snowcrash elitism and FIC stuff that I always accuse them of...come to real life. They consciously stated that there'd be a party on one floor, where there'd be a kind of cattle call, and only if a Linden liked your looks, would you be invited to *another* area, a VIP lounge, exclusively, to which others would be barred. Imagine! I suppose this is what passes for California Cool these days? I rely on Spin Martin to explain this to us.I can't imagine why anyone would come to a "job fair" (read: introductory cult meeting) in which the rules of the road involve standing around and trying to get noticed, and then watching while some people are noticed and whisked away to a VIP lounge and the rest shat upon. NO thanks. Programmers in computer software firms aren't normally tested on their ability to speak up in a group at an open bar, are they? Don't geeks tend to be known for their lack of social skills? And they can pay the younger ones less, don't forget that. Do job fairs normally go like this? Do ANY go like this? I haven't heard of a worse, more socially inept thing in ages! Actually, ever. Who would want to work for a company that went out of their way to make people feel awkward and bad like this? You could just as easily meet everyone, then invite the ones you like best to a second meeting later. And we wonder why things go on like the orientation areas being handed out to their favorites. They really think this is the way to do things! Talk about a cult - talk about ass-kissing - if you want to get a bunch of ass-kissers who think they are in something super-secret and super-special, recruit this way. It rather infuriates me that Linden Lab are wasting money on such unnecessary extravagance - money that is paid for by your monthly fees and mine. If only they'd do things the PROPER way instead of trying to be all "hip and trendy" - and failing dismally - then Second Life might be a better experience. My impression was that Linden Lab was trying extremely hard to be "hip", and in that attempt created an unprofessional, unproductive, and uncomfortable recruitment environment. SL is the only thing in it's kind... But it runs crappily. F*** pretty skies, I want stability, and to be able to find my stuff in my inventory when I need it, not after relogging 50 bloody times before it *might* show up. 50 relogs is about the time I have between work and bedtime. ________________________________________ Comments Collected from the Average SL Goer, what do you think? Discuss. A VIP room and some drinks? This is Mr Roger's Neighbourhood compared to how it's supposed to work! Let me explain how it's done - I'm a veteran of a few California corporations in the tech sector myself. It's just not California Corporate Cool unless they encourage you to sleep with your co-workers, become a member of the Club that's 'in' on the Inside Deal, and have perks like attending the 'industry convention meeting' in places like Bali or Tokyo. Would you settle for less? If you are new at this, the signing bonus is de rigeur, and the stock option alone just doesn't cut it, you'll be selling yourself short. Hold out for at *least* a couple of moral-relativist, fawning young assistants of your personal gender preference. Negotiate carefully. The issue that will crush your soul in 12 months, believe it or not, will be if your house, car, or executive secretary doesn't have the same features and trim level as those of your loosely equivalent coworkers. So - best advice for next time: - Wear your hair ridiculously too long or too short, dress in a brand new silk black shirt, and get the most expensive mobile phone on the market possible 24 hours previously. Have your clothes professionally pressed, not sorta ironed. And for god sakes man, unless you are driving a charcoal grey-black Lexus, Porsche or BMW Z3, do NOT let them see you drive up. At the bar, order any cocktail drink you can find that's freakishly bright blue, and in a martini glass. Unless you are hanging with the older crew, in which case get the most obscure ale or stout you can at the bar, and wistfully mention that you prefer west coast home microbrew. Ah, and talk up modified Harleys. If male, casually remark that you think your potential employer's wife is hot (when she's left for a moment), and nod approvingly. If female, do exactly the same thing, but add a touch of sensual growl when you say it. Last but not least, whatever you do: DON'T mention your skillset! Your ability will be measured by how much you dare to ask for, because it's just plain faster that way. Besides, looking at people's tech portfolios is the most boring thing in the world now that the live band is just getting into their set. Now THAT'S a California corporate job fair, and now you are prepared! Need some geeks of your own to do the real heavy lifting later? No worries mate, just hire some... Good luck! _____________________
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Zaphod Kotobide
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06-07-2007 16:13
Wow Desmond - I just can't WAIT til they have one of these job fairs here in So Cal! (I'd have to take out a loan to get all that goin' on but hey)
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06-07-2007 16:16
Dearly Darling Desmond,
I have often wondered about the folks out west. I guess I really would NOT fit in. Purple, short,dyed hair, Tiger striped glasses with a neck chain. Oleg Cassini red Suit, black heels, Auchentoshan neat... I have a driver as I don't drive any more.. and a DAR! lol We should do lunch! Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger _____________________
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06-07-2007 16:44
Dearly Darling Desmond, I have often wondered about the folks out west. I guess I really would NOT fit in. Purple, short,dyed hair, Tiger striped glasses with a neck chain. Oleg Cassini red Suit, black heels, Auchentoshan neat... I have a driver as I don't drive any more.. and a DAR! lol We should do lunch! Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger Not fit in, love? Are you kidding me? Perfect contrast! My people are sooo getting in touch with your people... _____________________
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Storm Thunders
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06-08-2007 05:58
mmm blue Curacao martini... or Hpnotiq...
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Cyn Vandeverre
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06-08-2007 10:39
LL flew my husband out there for an interview a few months ago. He said it was a fun and professional experience. He ended up not accepting their offer, but he would have been happy to work with them.
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Meade Paravane
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06-08-2007 10:58
LL flew my husband out there for an interview a few months ago. He said it was a fun and professional experience. He ended up not accepting their offer, but he would have been happy to work with them. If I wasn't happy where I am, I'd probably talk to LL. Seems like a cool place to work. Anybody who thinks a bar is a crappy place to hold interviews needs to work more in places that also think that and have some life sucked out of them for a while.. _____________________
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Elex Dusk
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06-08-2007 11:02
I think that Linden Lab makes the mistake of not understanding that their harshest resident critics (myself included) might make excellent employees and Liaisons.
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Meade Paravane
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06-08-2007 11:21
I'm not sure that being a 'harsh critic' is the best way to go about getting a liason job.
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06-08-2007 11:38
I'm not sure that being a 'harsh critic' is the best way to go about getting a liason job. If the threshold is "Only those persons who have never ever said a harsh word about LL need apply" then there's a disconnect as the organization becomes reliant on sycophants. |
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06-08-2007 11:53
I'm not sure that being a 'harsh critic' is the best way to go about getting a liason job. *chews her lip* I don't know. They might look at it like that, but me, if they aren't complete ranting loons (of which I am one, apparently), then they are ardent supporters who wish to make SL better. Problem with this, they are also the ones with the highest burnout rate as they realize that they simply aren't allowed to do it. _____________________
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