Newbie banned in first week! Help!
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Kaia Blachere
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Join date: 17 Jul 2007
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07-17-2007 01:10
OK so I'm an idiot and I managed to get a message like this: You are being removed from the wings of hope sim. You are in violation of Second Life's Terms of Service. You placed 5 chat bugs on our sim, yes I know they are called the sl bible, but there is no bible here, just 5 very tiny chat bugs. Linden labs have been notified and you have been reported, with proof. what does this mean? I think what happened was that as I misunderstood to use the blasted slBible object I picked up from another "church" sim and tried to drag and drop the item to the room I was in (that I had rented btw, to try and prevent myself getting into trouble for littering or whatever you people call it) I was inevrtedly leaving these "chat bugs" lying around. I can't believe that as a christian I've got myself banned from a christian sim (and possibly from the whole of SL) just 'cos I was trying to work out how to use a bible in my very first week....... help and advice appreciated  thanks |
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Loppo Koba
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07-17-2007 01:26
I would'nt worry about it, SL will only give you a warning at the most.
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Aleister Montgomery
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07-17-2007 01:46
I knew it, religion is dangerous  sorry for that joke. The problem seems to be that you accidently placed a few copies of the SLBible object on the floor. The scripts inside that object likely contain listeners, i.e. functions to listen in to the chat. A sim owner can detect listeners, but can't see what the script exactly does. It could be a function to listen for owner commands, or to listen to a HUD, but it could also be a chat spy. The sim owner overreacted a little, imho. They can ban you from their land, every land owner has the right to do that for whatever arbitrary reason. But that's about it. It isn't that easy to get someone banned from SL. If a Linden checks the scripts inside the supposed spyware and finds nothing harmful, they'll likely completely ignore the issue. /Edit: I'd IM the sim owner and explain what went wrong. It's a typical newbie mistake to rez multiple copies of an object, I think they'll understand that.
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Kaia Blachere
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07-17-2007 05:41
thanks for that guys <sigh> it's far more complicated on SL than I thought it would be... |
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Raudf Fox
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07-17-2007 05:46
From: Kaia Blachere thanks for that guys <sigh> it's far more complicated on SL than I thought it would be... You have my sympathy. If you keep in mind that the dynamics of SL are just like that of RL, you'll be alright. As for being banned from a sim, simply IM the sim owner and explain what happened. If they refuse to listen, well, just chalk it up to experience and don't bother to go back there.
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Ricky Yates
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07-17-2007 05:53
However, I *do* wonder how the chat bugs ended up in a bible object ...
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Brenda Connolly
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07-17-2007 05:55
From: Ricky Yates However, I *do* wonder how the chat bugs ended up in a bible object ... How do you think "He" knows what's going on?
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Zaphod Kotobide
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07-17-2007 05:57
I agree with Aleister - your sim owner could have been a bit more lenient on a first offense, particularly considering you're new, and have yet to learn of the many intricacies of Second Life.
To my knowledge, the slBible is NOT a spy utility, but simply a wearable scripted object that listens to open chat for requests to quote bible verses. At least that's the case with the one created by California Condor. The key is, you don't rez them out, you simply attach a copy to your avatar.
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Coyote Momiji
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07-17-2007 06:25
On the upside, if they're banning everyone who leaves a script out that uses listener functions, they will have a very empty sim within a very short time.
Then there'll be no chat for anyone to spy on.
...My god, their plan - it's /genius/!!!
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Bodhisatva Paperclip
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07-17-2007 06:39
From: Kaia Blachere
<sigh> it's far more complicated on SL than I thought it would be...
Keeping that in mind will help in the coming weeks, months and years.  |
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Loppo Koba
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07-17-2007 06:39
From: Brenda Connolly How do you think "He" knows what's going on? rofl....very funny |
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Gene Jacobs
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07-17-2007 06:43
Just goes to prove, that if you read God's Word, he will listen to you...
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Coyote Momiji
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07-17-2007 06:46
Having just gone to that sim and taken a brief look around, I think it may have been God's mercy to ban you.
*twitch*
If you'll excuse me, a melon baller has a date with my eyeballs.
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Morwen Bunin
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07-17-2007 06:48
From: Coyote Momiji Having just gone to that sim and taken a brief look around, I think it may have been God's mercy to ban you.
Oh darn..... now I have to go and take a look there tonight. *Opens her clothes folder and cannot decide between the sub-folder "Formal Wear" en "Sexy Wear"* Morwen. |
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Alt Aabye
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07-17-2007 06:52
From: Morwen Bunin Oh darn..... now I have to go and take a look there tonight.
*Opens her clothes folder and cannot decide between the sub-folder "Formal Wear" en "Sexy Wear"*
Morwen. Wear the Sexy Wear and see if you get 'struck down'! 
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Marianne McCann
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07-17-2007 07:05
From: Kaia Blachere it's far more complicated on SL than I thought it would be... Truer words, never spoken. Mari
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bilbo99 Emu
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07-17-2007 07:25
From: Marianne McCann Truer words, never spoken. Mari /me nods in agreement.
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Alicia Sautereau
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07-17-2007 07:41
From: Coyote Momiji Having just gone to that sim and taken a brief look around, I think it may have been God's mercy to ban you.
*twitch*
If you'll excuse me, a melon baller has a date with my eyeballs. lmao be glad u got banned lol 6 ppl, script time delay 17ms 2 tour busses wich drive around non stop, club, couple of unfinished skyboxes at eyesore hight, 1024 rental with an 8m road running trough the land, appartment building with a huge wall, spinning rental boxes clearly a case of no covenant(unless there are lag clauses in the bible?) and do what u want to do |
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Morwen Bunin
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07-17-2007 09:40
From: Alicia Sautereau lmao
be glad u got banned lol
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Colette Meiji
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07-17-2007 10:01
From: Alicia Sautereau lmao
be glad u got banned lol
6 ppl, script time delay 17ms
2 tour busses wich drive around non stop, club, couple of unfinished skyboxes at eyesore hight, 1024 rental with an 8m road running trough the land, appartment building with a huge wall, spinning rental boxes
clearly a case of no covenant(unless there are lag clauses in the bible?) and do what u want to do Why does a Christain sim need skyboxes? |
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Coyote Momiji
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07-17-2007 10:02
From: Colette Meiji Why does a Christain sim need skyboxes? Well, there'd only be two sets of poseballs - missionary and guilt-racked sobbing. (joke. Really.) |
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Ann Launay
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07-17-2007 10:02
From: Colette Meiji Why does a Christain sim need skyboxes? They're getting 'close' to the Lord.
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Zaphod Kotobide
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07-17-2007 10:03
Not *everything* that goes on in skyboxes is naughty. Sheesh. Just because YOURS is a den of iniquity.  From: Colette Meiji Why does a Christain sim need skyboxes?
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Colette Meiji
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07-17-2007 10:04
From: Ann Launay They're getting 'close' to the Lord. the "OH god, oh god, oh god, Im ..." is not praying .. |
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Coyote Momiji
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07-17-2007 10:05
From: Zaphod Kotobide Not *everything* that goes on in skyboxes is naughty. Sheesh. Just because YOURS is a den of iniquity. I thought Welcome Areas were the proper dens of iniquity. Skyboxes are for knitting. |