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Strife Onizuka
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07-22-2007 01:49
From: Egil Milner
Strife, from my experience in forum moderation, you should never have mentioned this "private dispute" at all. Such comments by those in positions of power do nothing more than provoke reactions from those who have problems with authority. It would have been much better to ignore the post publicly and contact him privately. And before I'm accused of limiting the freedom of speech of board moderators... I'm limiting the freedom of speech of board moderators. In my opinion, taking on that role really does require giving up some rights in order to fulfill necessary responsibilities.

In fact, I'll go so far as to say that board moderators should do no more than say, "In response to complains about ToS violations, this thread is locked." Comments, opinions - everything else by moderators should go into threads where they haven't taking "moderator" action. Moreover, if a thread in which one moderator has replied needs to be locked, then a different moderator should do that.

This is how I've seen successful boards handled.


The limited free speech comes with being a moderator, we are held to higher standards after all. I do from time to time contact people despite it being a sure fire way to get yelled at; in this case he has PMs turned off and I do not conduct forum business inworld.

They are good suggestions and we already do a number of them though they aren't written in the policies. We already don't moderate our own threads or disputes (but we sometimes have to because there are so few of us). We really have to give some explanation as to why a thread is locked, we have to communicate to the community what behaviors are not acceptable so they can avoid them. For most of the community, the explanations given for why threads are locked is their only exposure to the rules.
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Broken Xeno
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07-22-2007 02:03
Why is he still posting on the forums? All he does is insult people, and type poorly (I will admit he's humorous at times, but for the most part, I'd definitely slate him under "broadly offensive.";)
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Jumpman Lane
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07-22-2007 12:26
From: Broken Xeno
Why is he still posting on the forums? All he does is insult people, and type poorly (I will admit he's humorous at times, but for the most part, I'd definitely slate him under "broadly offensive.";)
too bad ur banner broke!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-22-2007 12:28
From: Strife Onizuka
The limited free speech comes with being a moderator, we are held to higher standards after all. I do from time to time contact people despite it being a sure fire way to get yelled at; in this case he has PMs turned off and I do not conduct forum business inworld.

They are good suggestions and we already do a number of them though they aren't written in the policies. We already don't moderate our own threads or disputes (but we sometimes have to because there are so few of us). We really have to give some explanation as to why a thread is locked, we have to communicate to the community what behaviors are not acceptable so they can avoid them. For most of the community, the explanations given for why threads are locked is their only exposure to the rules.
Liar, u are petty and dont READ all of the threads! and all my settings are defaut and i read the rules!
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Chas Connolly
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Why reward the Lame?
07-23-2007 03:55
From: Broken Xeno
Why is he still posting on the forums? All he does is insult people, and type poorly (I will admit he's humorous at times, but for the most part, I'd definitely slate him under "broadly offensive.";)


Mr Lame is offensive in pretty much anyway you can define it .. broadly, narrowly, grammatically, and so on.

The saddest thing is that he gets what he wants. Useful or interesting threads are closed, simply because he's hijacked them.

Virtually every post he makes on these forums would warrant an AR in-world, and yet it is the other posters are punished by having their threads closed down.

My advice would be to totally ignore Mr Lame and carry on the thread as if he weren't there. Even he might get tired of his own voice eventually. I know I am.
Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 11:01
From: Chas Connolly
Mr Lame is offensive in pretty much anyway you can define it .. broadly, narrowly, grammatically, and so on.

The saddest thing is that he gets what he wants. Useful or interesting threads are closed, simply because he's hijacked them.

Virtually every post he makes on these forums would warrant an AR in-world, and yet it is the other posters are punished by having their threads closed down.

My advice would be to totally ignore Mr Lame and carry on the thread as if he weren't there. Even he might get tired of his own voice eventually. I know I am.

YOU IM ing me inworld endlessly about nothing warrents an AR ...but I let ya live! And noone would have read those dead threads...i resurrected them...and you ignore your own vindictive and abusive, harassing posts...YOU START them...you and others like ya...i just finish em because my RESPONSES are just plain funnier and when one of you runs out of lame come-backs you ar em to a mod! IN FACT I AM WRONG TO EVEN FEEL ANGER TOWARDS THE MODS! (WHO DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO READ ALL THE POSTS!) maybe they are lazy and overworked...but should just laugh at the snitches, cause my comic ingeneuity is endless...their's nonexistent...just another way of whining cause ya lost! i say call a Linden cause ya can't log in ...ya pack of crybabies!
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Chas Connolly
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07-23-2007 11:29
If you dare to grant me permission, I'll post our one and only IM exchange, and let the people decide who was harrassing who.
Do you dare?
Mr Lame
PS: I've never ARed you. Not yet anyway
Wilhelm Neumann
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07-23-2007 17:23
/me remembers the rule people complain about banning on a message board = banning ingame

/me wonders when (not if) this particular rule will be put into play
Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 18:09
From: Chas Connolly
If you dare to grant me permission, I'll post our one and only IM exchange, and let the people decide who was harrassing who.
Do you dare?
Mr Lame
PS: I've never ARed you. Not yet anyway
I DARE ya to eat a turd sandwhich!quit stalkin me! every post aint for or about you! I hear Callie Cline is lookin for stalkers ...STALK HER!
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Brenda Archer
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07-23-2007 18:49
Strife, Cybin, my hat's also off to you. Moderation is a damn difficult job when there are so few of you. Even if I don't always agree with your decisions, you won't be seeing complaints from me when you have to make them.

I also participate in a mostly unmoderated board, which is very good sometimes and appalling at others. Let's just say that because of it there are some things I now know, that I really did not want to... and some other things that I didn't know, but that I was able to bring before the Lindens before it was too late.

Moderation is necessary to have the on-topic level of discussion we have here, and I'm glad it's working out the way it has been so far. This board is a tremendous resource for new residents and SL would be a far poorer place without it.
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Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 19:13
From: Brenda Archer
Strife, Cybin, my hat's also off to you. Moderation is a damn difficult job when there are so few of you. Even if I don't always agree with your decisions, you won't be seeing complaints from me when you have to make them.

I also participate in a mostly unmoderated board, which is very good sometimes and appalling at others. Let's just say that because of it there are some things I now know, that I really did not want to... and some other things that I didn't know, but that I was able to bring before the Lindens before it was too late.

Moderation is necessary to have the on-topic level of discussion we have here, and I'm glad it's working out the way it has been so far. This board is a tremendous resource for new residents and SL would be a far poorer place without it.
which reminds me aint they gettin rid of this crap!
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Toy LaFollette
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07-23-2007 20:19
From: Jumpman Lane
which reminds me aint they gettin rid of this crap!


Actually no, your still here.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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07-23-2007 20:54
From: Toy LaFollette
Actually no, your still here.


you made me spit coffee outa my nose! :mad:
Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 23:18
From: Wilhelm Neumann
/me remembers the rule people complain about banning on a message board = banning ingame

/me wonders when (not if) this particular rule will be put into play
ol' small-time dry snitch...next time drop a dime in morse code...
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Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 23:19
From: Toy LaFollette
Actually no, your still here.

don't cry, dry ya eyes, here comes ya mama with those two little guys!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-23-2007 23:20
From: Wilhelm Neumann
you made me spit coffee outa my nose! :mad:
i bet u slurped it up and drank it anyway!...but to endeavor to remain topical!...er...what was the topic again...?
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Chas Connolly
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07-24-2007 01:05
From: Jumpman Lane
I DARE ya to eat a turd sandwhich!quit stalkin me! every post aint for or about you! I hear Callie Cline is lookin for stalkers ...STALK HER!


Pot ..... kettle .... black

I thought not.
Turbo Streeter
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07-24-2007 07:13
From: someone
don't cry, dry ya eyes, here comes ya mama with those two little guys!


No you DIDN'T!! You did not just quote Doug-E-Fresh from like 1983... '6 minutes, 6 minutes, 6 minutes Jumpy Lane you're on!'

(Grabs his walker and goes to sit back down)

It's WAY OT at this point.... But to the original OP I see the point with the mods not taking parting shots. All said and done... it's not a giant deal.
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Jumpman Lane
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07-24-2007 07:53
From: Turbo Streeter
No you DIDN'T!! You did not just quote Doug-E-Fresh from like 1983... '6 minutes, 6 minutes, 6 minutes Jumpy Lane you're on!'

(Grabs his walker and goes to sit back down)

It's WAY OT at this point.... But to the original OP I see the point with the mods not taking parting shots. All said and done... it's not a giant deal.
Is it real? Oh, Oh,omg!-yup turbo...and I AM...FRESH! i JUST HATE THE CUTSEY."locks" THIS ONE turd uses to lock his posts...I readily admit a lot of mine should be locked (having recently perused the rules!) BUT! the whoever started the tread should be allowed one last post to close things out!
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Jumpman Lane
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07-24-2007 07:57
From: Chas Connolly
Pot ..... kettle .... black

I thought not.
You lurk behind me in threads! i paid you 1L$ as a joke...not to start a whole in world convo about nothing! If you felt abused, you should have answered when i asked ya wtf ya wanted instead of playin dumb...YOU KNOW WHAT YA WANTED! That's why ya got called every kinda swingin monkey in the jungle! YA GOT WHAT YA WANTED! MONKEY!!!!!
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Chas Connolly
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07-24-2007 08:26
From: Jumpman Lane
You lurk behind me in threads! i paid you 1L$ as a joke...not to start a whole in world convo about nothing! If you felt abused, you should have answered when i asked ya wtf ya wanted instead of playin dumb...YOU KNOW WHAT YA WANTED! That's why ya got called every kinda swingin monkey in the jungle! YA GOT WHAT YA WANTED! MONKEY!!!!!


I'll take that as a no. I knew you wouldn't dare. And you never paid me the L$1.
Jumpman Lane
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07-24-2007 10:25
From: Chas Connolly
I'll take that as a no. I knew you wouldn't dare. And you never paid me the L$1.
check ya transactions...got d@m if i didnt..you can't post all them curse words any way! so quit pump fakin! see this is the kinda go-no where convo's you try to have with me in world. AND YOU KNOW IT! Go lurk over to an open house office hours ans stalk a Linden! :P 95 425899310 Date: 2007-07-19 15:48:45
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L$1
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Cybin Monde
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closed
07-26-2007 13:52
i belive we have gleaned what we can fromt he responses to the original topic.

at this point the thread must be closed due to flaming, trolling, etc..
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