1.10.1 Released!

It's out! We got Karen on the line. Post your results here!

Octree error still exists. No bugfixes for linux it seems.

2006-05-31T21:03:46Z WARNING: Octree leaf got invalid object position.
2006-05-31T21:03:46Z WARNING: Move couldn't find existing spatial group!
2006-05-31T21:03:46Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

*poof*

Alll I can say is thank god.....happy days.....its downloading now.....please work you tempramental back of gonads.....oooooh I want you so much.........97% downloaded....gotta goooooooooooooo....gone.

Yahooooooo!

Same here. It's definitely the Occulusion features crashing the client.

Put this in settings.ini (use a tab to seperate them, very important! Midnight Commander's editor will work):
UseOcclusion FALSE
DebugPermissions TRUE

I got in with that, but when I transported to the FUrnation Alpha Skymall, crash city! I'm saving the logs. Many warnings of:

2006-05-31T21:20:48Z WARNING: Could not remove drawable from spatial group
2006-05-31T21:20:48Z WARNING: Octree leaf got invalid object position.

Something intresting:

2006-05-31T21:21:03Z WARNING: !!! OCTREE REMOVING FACE BY ADDRESS, SEVERE PERFORMANCE PENALTY |||
2006-05-31T21:21:03Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

At least I got something with the last release. This time I just get a Second Life window that's completely black and this in the console...

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2006-05-31T21:20:06Z INFO: Loading bumpmap: bump_weave.tga from viewerart
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z WARNING: Couldn't load font ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z WARNING: Couldn't load font ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z WARNING: Couldn't load font ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z WARNING: Couldn't load font ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z WARNING: Couldn't load font ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z INFO: GL_VENDOR NVIDIA Corporation
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z GL_RENDERER GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z GL_VERSION 2.0.0 NVIDIA 76.76
2006-05-31T21:20:06Z

The only way to kill it is Ctrl-Alt-ESC.

Nice one Lindens. Linux users shafted yet again.

I would have expected the octree code to have been mostly portable between all three platforms. It is after all simple enough hash in that regard. If it was the same then, it isn't crashing on Windows because a bad pointer op off into invalid memory doesnt' force a death? That would be odd, even less likely since it doesn't seem to be a very dominant error on the Mac clients.

Doesn't make much sense why the occlusion code would screw up on only the Linux viewer.

I tell a lie. Ctrl-Alt-ESC only kills the window. You have to kill -9 the Second Life processes to regain console control.

I've submitted a bug report with logs to Linden Labs. This is the bug ID:

[rt.lindenlab.com #300542]

EDIT: If you have a bug ID from when 1.10.0 was broken, post it here.

Good luck! According to the "Quote From Michael (sic) Linden" thread;

Whats going on my new updated linux client (from the website) which doesnt exist keeps crashing also.

I might just forget all this crap and move over to 'A Tale in The Desert' I have it installed on Linux and its fine.

But I tell you what I am not doing.....noway is Windows touching one of my boxes.

Message to Lindens, either support linux or don't, but quit getting our hopes up.

rt.lindenlab.com #300554

Here's my bug report.. Getting the same errors as everyone else..

Hey, if the Lindens cant fix this soon, could they think about disabling the occlusion code until they do?

I wonder, too. We know that the GL side of the extension works, because, well, it works under WINE, sitting on the same GL implementation.

And yes, this release is a crashy hell like the previous one, but thanks to the UseOcclusion FALSE tip at least I'm up and running again in the usual mediocre-Linux-client way.

Missing the WINE version already. ;.;

Nice one, I hate 'Tale in the Desert' but I hate these bomb outs more. Don't make me do it..I swear I will give up on SL ...I am not bluffing!

Though I am still partial to my idea about getting a group of skilled people together who know SDL, Vorbis, GL, etc.. and who are willing to sign an NDA and do the work on a volunteer basis, or perhaps for a few $L. I have a feeling that sort of idea would fly better with the Linden's then the current offerings running around.

Okay .. so I have started poking around a bit, and found that I can live through pretty much all the Octree warnings. In fact, I managed to survive through several pages of them in the logs. Not certain what to make of it all yet, sort of wondering if the occtree warnings are a symptom of somethig else. Have had a few other crashes now without the octree warnings even occuring. I believe someone else mentioned the same sort of findings when they set the DebugPermissions to TRUE as well.

Bad behavior in network throttling interaction with object drawing maybe?

On a whim I cranked the network throttling down to 384kbs ... octree errors "almost" completely go away for me but not quite. Though for the first time I was capable of flying around the Elpenor Sandbox twice, through all the other objects and such, before crashing. And no octree error on the crash.

Hi guys, just wanted to let you know if there's anything vital you want me to get Karen's attention about, please don't hesitate to IM, PM, or email (torley@lindenlab.com) me. I'm also going to let Runitai Linden know 'cuz of his Octree mastery.

I don't have Linux but I still figure it's better to communicate these things to the Lindens who do know, instead of being silent. Zi Ree was helpfully letting me know about some of this--

You guys still have bad crashy issues? Even with Occlusion Culling disabled in DEBUG? Alt-Ctrl-D for DEBUG menu > Rendering > uncheck Object-Object Occlusion.

You prolly already knew that, but for anyone who didn't... thought I might put it on the table.

I cant login in at all with the new release. I turned off occlusion in settings.ini but still nothing. The login screen shows up and when i hit connect the progress bar starts going then it crashes.

there is a bunch of these:
WARNING: Octree leaf got invalid object position.
WARNING: Octree detected duplicate child center and gave up.
WARNING: Failure adding drawable to object partition!
WARNING: Octree leaf got invalid object position.

then this:
WARNING: LLWorld::addRegion for a simulator that already exists!
INFO: simulator_enable() Enabling 69.25.105.189:13003 with code 5466725
WARNING: LLWorld::addRegion for a simulator that already exists!

Oddly, I don't have that option in my Debug Menu.

Torley, I'm emailing you my log dumps that I sent to support@. Can you forward them to Runitai? It is crashing even with Occlusion turned off. Check above -- I put in a line to edit the config files to turn it off. Support wasn't very supportive.

I've gotten the logs that have been sent to me so far. I wasn't aware that disabling occlusion culling wasn't available in the Linux Alpha Client--sorry about that.

We'll continue to follow this. I know how enthusiastic and passionate you all are.

Octree doesn't appear to be totally fatal. It spams with error messages but it appears there is a problem with linking to simulators. These settings may or may not help, give them a try and see what you come up with.

In the general tab under start location hit the check box for 'Show Start Location on Login Screen' and pick places that are out of the way, islands seem to work well as it you only get to connect to one sim, also lower your draw distance so you don't draw into another sim.

Lower bandwidth setting, I get fewer errors around 300kbps even though I find nothing wrong with the link between myself and LL.

Clear the cache and restart, this is also on the network tab.

There also appears to be a bug in Graphics Detail under Terrain Detail, high setting causes ground textures to randomly go away. Anyone else getting that?