First, I rarely post comments to the Forum because, 99% of the time, I'm pretty happy with SL. It IS a "State of the Art" enviroment and, as such, we all tolerate some issues.
However, as many have stated so well here, the "Gray Universe" we are all living with currently is becoming very HARD to live with.
I may be way off base, but some of the issue, to me, is caused by allocation of resourses. The bottom line is that, to me, many of these issues seem to have begun when SL decided to allocate more time, energy, and, most important "CPU Cycles" to those who want to go to big parties and dance then those who Build.
When "Lag" went down....texture deployment times went UP.
I posted a Forum message a week ago on this topic and recieved an unacceptable response from a Linden in a day.
Its time for LL to understand this..."dancers" don't pay much in fees....BUILDERS do. The "lag" issues are important to all of us...I don't want to minimize this. But, LL needs to address the Slow Texture issue quickly...because, to me, THIS issue will directly effect LL revenue far more than others.
Enough said.
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This has to be a cache problem. And, yeah, the new default texture is bad. |
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cruiser Gilman
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12-08-2005 10:00
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Huns Valen
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12-08-2005 10:03
It doesn't look like it's a cache problem, but it's related to the changes made in the interest list (what your camera sees) and the texture pipeline. We've gotten much closer to the heart of the problem and as Karen pointed out in her update today, the texture problems are better, but still being worked on. I know it's been frustrating, and far from ideal for many. You should see ongoing improvements, and we'll continue to work on it until the situation is resolved. /255/57/76043/1.html#post788879/255/57/76043/1.html#post788879 I can't beat this feeling that it's the cache due to the fact that the geometry itself appears to get completely dumped when I leave an area. I'd expect the same geometry with "Tron texture" if it was solely a texture issue. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is what I have noticed. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-08-2005 11:04
IWe've gotten much closer to the heart of the problem and as Karen pointed out in her update today, the texture problems are better, but still being worked on. That would make the texture problems about 1000% less annoying. That would be: Avatars, both clothes and attachments. Phantom objects. Particles. Trees. |
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Carson Hadlee
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Cache or Crud
12-10-2005 05:41
Ok so I DID go look at my logs for SL. These are fresh. These are real.
Im no techie but this same thing kept happening about 70% of my log. 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Old host isn't alive. 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z INFO: Removing region 257280:256768 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z INFO: Adding new region (1005:1003) 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z INFO: Host: 66.150.245.50:12035 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z INFO: simulator_enable() Enabling 66.150.245.50:12035 with code 164887 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:47Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: LLWorld::addRegion for a simulator that already exists! 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Old host isn't alive. 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z INFO: Removing region 257280:256768 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z INFO: Adding new region (1005:1003) 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z INFO: Host: 66.150.245.50:12035 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z INFO: simulator_enable() Enabling 66.150.245.50:12035 with code 164887 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 2005-12-10T12:01:48Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 66.150.245.95:13003 etc etc etc. No wonder it doesnt have time to load textures...its too busy removing and adding the same region...and then logging all these nice packets from invalid circuits...  Go look at your own logs...see if this is happening to you too...would be interested... _____________________
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Malachi Petunia
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12-10-2005 05:54
Go look at your own logs...see if this is happening to you too...would be interested... Must not be a problem though, because the Lindens don't see it. However, I think under the US Americans with Disabilities Act it is illegal to make fun of blind people so I won't, even though their blindness comes from closing their eyes real tight and covering them with their hands. _____________________
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Nathan Stewart
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12-10-2005 06:42
I'll take a look into the error messages, and often bug report bad ones, the add region one that you see reported is a valid message, and happens when you move in and out and then back in of a view distance of a bordering region in quick succession, if you had stayed out of view distance long enough you would have been discounnected from that child region and then you would have been reconnected when you moved back into range reconected
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Kathmandu Gilman
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12-11-2005 00:31
Running around in preview it seems I see less grey and textures seem more persisitant than on the main grid but that may just be due to the light load on the preview servers.
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Carson Hadlee
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12-11-2005 21:20
Nathan this occured....when I logged on ...at home...and since I can barely move anymore..I assure you...this was not when I was moving anywhere at all...
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-11-2005 21:33
I've filed my 25 bug reports about gray loading textues tonight - have you folid yours?
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