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Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

03-08-2005 20:45

Sorry for the cross-post, guys...

Roberta Dalek & I are putting together a "lag party" in the Preview Grid in DaBoom at 5pm PST Wednesday to test the new Ghosting fix.

Please bring your hoochie hair, color changing shoes, particles... whatever.

The goal is to emulate a busy party environment - then rez objects, and see if ghosting is observed.

If we can get 10-15 folks to show up, it would be much appreciated

More details are in the general forums on this thread:
/120/f8/38129/1.html

Thanks in advance for your help!

Travis

Jack Lambert

Registered User

Join date: 4 Jun 2004

Posts: 265

03-08-2005 20:59

Travis,

Will you have a hoochie hair dispensor and some bling-bling for me as a door prize if I show up?

--Jack Lambert

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Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you.

-Chip Midnight

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

03-08-2005 21:43

Sorry, the hoochie hair dispenser is broken. In fact, I think it was using one of your scripts, Jack

Syanin Xevious

Registered User

Join date: 7 May 2004

Posts: 52

03-09-2005 07:09

I did a little test of my own. Ill grant you, I was alone but I tried on every avatar( if you know me, you know I have alot) , including a few of Yadnis, all the folders in my objects folders. The entire contents of the Sim Cast combat systems folders, vehicle folders etc etc. No ghosting. Twice I got a cannot create object or attach objects, wait a few seconds I did, did a detach all and it worked fine. One disturbing thing I hope is only because its a test server. It told me ona couple avies Nitro, Golden Chocobo and my Beloved wings from the Royolus avie of Damien fates's, were not able to be created because they weren't in the database.

Alan Kiesler

Retired Resident

Join date: 29 Jun 2004

Posts: 354

03-09-2005 11:27

Heh, turn on shell casings for a Seburo or two and fire away like mad (rubber bullets please).

They're little phys objects IIRC too, so it could be interesting.

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The Kind Healer -- http://sungak.net

No ending is EVER written; Communities will continue on their own.

Roberta Dalek

Probably trouble

Join date: 21 Oct 2004

Posts: 1,174

03-09-2005 18:15

Well the test is over and thanks to everyone who helped great a sim FPS of 5 and time dilation of 0.1!

We had *no* ghosting! We saw a new behaviour where an object would ghost for a couple of seconds and then poof.

Philip Linden

Founder, Linden Lab

Join date: 18 Nov 2002

Posts: 428

03-12-2005 18:57

It would be great if anyone cares to organize additional group testing for ghosting and post results here. Specifically, the sort of testing you will want to do:

Create and delete objects and attachments in an environment with lots of avatars, under conditions where avatars are frequently leaving and arriving at the scene.

Under these conditions, the bug we found would often cause ghosting to occur as a result of the simulator becoming confused as to which objects it had send information about to which avatars, and failing to transmit 'kill' messages (those which tell your user to delete an object from view) for different objects.

_____________________

Philip Linden
Chairman & Founder, Linden Lab
blog: http://secondlife.blogs.com/philip

Jack Lambert

Registered User

Join date: 4 Jun 2004

Posts: 265

03-12-2005 23:48

OK we'll organise another one as long as you promise to stop in and say hello Philip!

I propose tomorrow (Sunday the 13th) at 6 p.m. PST ... notice too short?

--Jack Lambert

edit - changed the date to something valid

_____________________

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Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you.

-Chip Midnight

Philip Linden

Founder, Linden Lab

Join date: 18 Nov 2002

Posts: 428

03-13-2005 00:27

Sunday night the 13th? I could come to that.

_____________________

Philip Linden
Chairman & Founder, Linden Lab
blog: http://secondlife.blogs.com/philip

Jack Lambert

Registered User

Join date: 4 Jun 2004

Posts: 265

03-13-2005 00:44

Woops I originally put the wrong date in there... it's been corrected (Sunday, the 13th)

--Jack Lambert

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Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you.

-Chip Midnight

Ghosting Test Wed @ 5PM
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	03-08-2005 20:45 Sorry for the cross-post, guys... Roberta Dalek & I are putting together a "lag party" in the Preview Grid in DaBoom at 5pm PST Wednesday to test the new Ghosting fix. Please bring your hoochie hair, color changing shoes, particles... whatever. The goal is to emulate a busy party environment - then rez objects, and see if ghosting is observed. If we can get 10-15 folks to show up, it would be much appreciated More details are in the general forums on this thread: /120/f8/38129/1.html Thanks in advance for your help! Travis
Jack Lambert Registered User Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 265	03-08-2005 20:59 Travis, Will you have a hoochie hair dispensor and some bling-bling for me as a door prize if I show up? --Jack Lambert _____________________ ---------------------------- Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you. -Chip Midnight
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	03-08-2005 21:43 Sorry, the hoochie hair dispenser is broken. In fact, I think it was using one of your scripts, Jack
Syanin Xevious Registered User Join date: 7 May 2004 Posts: 52	03-09-2005 07:09 I did a little test of my own. Ill grant you, I was alone but I tried on every avatar( if you know me, you know I have alot) , including a few of Yadnis, all the folders in my objects folders. The entire contents of the Sim Cast combat systems folders, vehicle folders etc etc. No ghosting. Twice I got a cannot create object or attach objects, wait a few seconds I did, did a detach all and it worked fine. One disturbing thing I hope is only because its a test server. It told me ona couple avies Nitro, Golden Chocobo and my Beloved wings from the Royolus avie of Damien fates's, were not able to be created because they weren't in the database.
Alan Kiesler Retired Resident Join date: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 354	03-09-2005 11:27 Heh, turn on shell casings for a Seburo or two and fire away like mad (rubber bullets please). They're little phys objects IIRC too, so it could be interesting. _____________________ Timothy S. Kimball (RL) -- aka 'Alan Kiesler' The Kind Healer -- http://sungak.net No ending is EVER written; Communities will continue on their own.
Roberta Dalek Probably trouble Join date: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,174	03-09-2005 18:15 Well the test is over and thanks to everyone who helped great a sim FPS of 5 and time dilation of 0.1! We had no ghosting! We saw a new behaviour where an object would ghost for a couple of seconds and then poof.
Philip Linden Founder, Linden Lab Join date: 18 Nov 2002 Posts: 428	03-12-2005 18:57 It would be great if anyone cares to organize additional group testing for ghosting and post results here. Specifically, the sort of testing you will want to do: Create and delete objects and attachments in an environment with lots of avatars, under conditions where avatars are frequently leaving and arriving at the scene. Under these conditions, the bug we found would often cause ghosting to occur as a result of the simulator becoming confused as to which objects it had send information about to which avatars, and failing to transmit 'kill' messages (those which tell your user to delete an object from view) for different objects. _____________________ Philip Linden Chairman & Founder, Linden Lab blog: http://secondlife.blogs.com/philip
Jack Lambert Registered User Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 265	03-12-2005 23:48 OK we'll organise another one as long as you promise to stop in and say hello Philip! I propose tomorrow (Sunday the 13th) at 6 p.m. PST ... notice too short? --Jack Lambert edit - changed the date to something valid _____________________ ---------------------------- Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you. -Chip Midnight
Philip Linden Founder, Linden Lab Join date: 18 Nov 2002 Posts: 428	03-13-2005 00:27 Sunday night the 13th? I could come to that. _____________________ Philip Linden Chairman & Founder, Linden Lab blog: http://secondlife.blogs.com/philip
Jack Lambert Registered User Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 265	03-13-2005 00:44 Woops I originally put the wrong date in there... it's been corrected (Sunday, the 13th) --Jack Lambert _____________________ ---------------------------- Taunt you with a tree filled lot? hahahahahahaha. Griefer trees! Good lord you're a drama queen. Poor poor put upon you. -Chip Midnight

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