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Ghosting fix?

Roberta Dalek
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03-08-2005 13:52
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They claim to have got a fix for the most common form of ghosting!
Travis Lambert
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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03-08-2005 14:07
Hmm.... Exciting :)

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought that the frequency of ghosting is in direct proportion to the amount of lag in the sim.

Providing that assumption is correct, maybe a scheduled "Lag Party" is in order once the preview grid comes up.

Everyone wear their hoochie hair.... max prim dresses.... scripted shoes.... Make sure we have plenty of visitor counters active :P

Once its sufficiently laggy (which wouldn't take too long).... let the rezzing/deleting commence :)

(I'm actually semi-serious here.... maybe it'd be a good ghost test?)

I'd be happy to host it in the evening sometime if someone's got the land online in the preview grid..... (or if the Lindens want to bring Isabel online for testing) :)

Whatcha think?

Travis
Roberta Dalek
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03-08-2005 14:10
I'm up for it - I have lots of prim hair and can add as many attachments as needed. We need to test this after all.

We could squat in The Edge as Da Boom is on the preview grid.
Travis Lambert
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03-08-2005 14:20
Sure... sounds like a plan :) As long as building is enabled on that parcel it could be a decent test.

We'd just need about 10-15 folks hoochied up to the max.

Maybe Wed night.... 5pm-6pm-ish game time? (assuming all is up)
Roberta Dalek
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03-08-2005 14:43
ok - i'll IM Jenna, unless you want to. It will be in her interest to test this as well.
Travis Lambert
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03-08-2005 14:48
Go for it.... I'm still at work :) Sure would be great if we could get a decent test going!
Steve Steed
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03-08-2005 16:44
Boo! you can not fix me I am a Gh0st why just why do ppl hate me so bad? :(




Yes I am happy it is being fixed. :p


Have a good day.
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Roberta Dalek
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03-08-2005 17:27
Ok. The ghosting fix test will be at 5pm game time on Wednesday. Please assemble at Da Boom on the *Preview Grid* and we'll try and create as much lag as possible.

All avs who can make it will be much appreciated. The aim is a scientific recreation of lag in an event environment :)
Steve Steed
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03-08-2005 17:53
From: Roberta Dalek
Ok. The ghosting fix test will be at 5pm game time on Wednesday. Please assemble at Da Boom on the *Preview Grid* and we'll try and create as much lag as possible.

All avs who can make it will be much appreciated. The aim is a scientific recreation of lag in an event environment :)


So if you do not see me it is fixed. :eek:


I will see if I can make it. :D It will be a lot of fun. :cool:
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Yashu Vindaloo
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03-08-2005 20:29
I can safely say that this is because of my friend's work on a script that realiably creates ghosts to allow them to easily diagnose the common ghosting (not avatar or attachment though :( He gave it to the lindens to allow them to work on ghosting.

This is BTW the same person that has been treated like shit by the lindens.... banned to work on his project in the sandbox and also banned by many cowardly sim owners.

Yet he continues, dispite being treated so unfairly, to contribute to the common collective.

oh, I forgot to mention, they banned him from the preview grid, so he can't even see the result of his help!
Belaya Statosky
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03-09-2005 09:32
From: Yashu Vindaloo
I can safely say that this is because of my friend's work on a script that realiably creates ghosts to allow them to easily diagnose the common ghosting (not avatar or attachment though :( He gave it to the lindens to allow them to work on ghosting.

This is BTW the same person that has been treated like shit by the lindens.... banned to work on his project in the sandbox and also banned by many cowardly sim owners.

Yet he continues, dispite being treated so unfairly, to contribute to the common collective.

oh, I forgot to mention, they banned him from the preview grid, so he can't even see the result of his help!


Oh yeah, my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who is totally responsible for the fixes. Apparently it's really serious. :mad:
Maxx Monde
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03-09-2005 09:50
From: Belaya Statosky
Oh yeah, my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who is totally responsible for the fixes. Apparently it's really serious. :mad:


For serious?
Belaya Statosky
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03-09-2005 09:51
From: Maxx Monde
For serious?


Totally and some junk.
Maxx Monde
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03-09-2005 09:51
If you want ghosting, I have a 1,500 prim build that I could rezz a few times. It never fails to ghost some of its parts on deletion.
Yashu Vindaloo
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03-09-2005 15:08
sigh... I guess I am not fetid enough to be beleived...
splat1 Edison
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03-09-2005 15:49
Lock stock and Two smoking barrels.. woops wrong forum.

Note the above is a joke and is not aimed at any one but to prove a point that this thread is kicking the same dead ghost as many others do :eek:
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Roberta Dalek
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03-09-2005 18:19
Well we couldn't create any ghosts - even with a sim FPS of 20 and time dilation of 0.1.
Yashu Vindaloo
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03-09-2005 19:07
what about avatar ghosts.... and attachment ghosts... did that get improved too??
Travis Lambert
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03-09-2005 19:25
Just a heads up....

The test seemed to be overwhelmingly successful...

Got Sim FPS to 4
Time Dialation to 0.05

Oz rezzed a 1500 prim object..... deleted.... no ghosties

Created tons of objects for almost an hour.... not a single ghost.


We did notice some new behavior.... some objects would "try" to ghost... then poof after about 5 seconds.

/cheer!
Travis Lambert
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03-09-2005 19:26
We had a few folks log out & back, myself included..... no Avatar ghosts

Several changed their attachments often - no attachment ghosts

Definately no object ghosts!
Zuzi Martinez
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03-09-2005 20:28
did anybody fly away and see if people saw them leave a ghost at the sim border?
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Kex Godel
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03-09-2005 21:59
Just played 10 full levels of Prim Attack, and not a single ghost, either on the board or hidden transparently above the board. =D
Yashu Vindaloo
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03-10-2005 00:47
oh man this is the best news I could have ever wanted to hear about 1.6...

The linden gods have actually heard my prayers...

When I looked at the original feature list and saw that ghosting was not addressed... I was fuming...

This is great... I am glad it's been addressed... even if it is a partial fix, I would still be glad...

I am also glad that the lindens used my friend's rezzer script to help with this... I hope they think about good things like this the next time he is up for a banning :)