I suggest everyone that has the snowball from the Linden Snowball Fight show up in Ahern and have at it. I never saw more ghosts that that snowy day in December. Let's really test this thing!
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Tiger Crossing
The Prim Maker
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03-08-2005 14:45
Acording to the latest news on 1.6, ghosting MAY be a thing of the past!
I suggest everyone that has the snowball from the Linden Snowball Fight show up in Ahern and have at it. I never saw more ghosts that that snowy day in December. Let's really test this thing! _____________________
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Steve Steed
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Join date: 2 Sep 2004
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03-08-2005 16:27
But but I love Gh0st. LOL!
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
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03-08-2005 16:43
Hah, you wanna see ghosts, I'll drop you a copy of my 6000 prim costume... I lovingly call it the chairman, and it crashed the hell out of morris the first time I rezzed it.
It even messed with the transaction system. I had to bug support to get my rezzing money back... 60,000 lindens to rez that thing... shiat  _____________________
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Steve Steed
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Join date: 2 Sep 2004
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03-08-2005 16:46
Hah, you wanna see ghosts, I'll drop you a copy of my 6000 prim costume... I lovingly call it the chairman, and it crashed the hell out of morris the first time I rezzed it. It even messed with the transaction system. I had to bug support to get my rezzing money back... 60,000 lindens to rez that thing... shiat  lol _____________________
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Roberta Dalek
Probably trouble
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
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03-08-2005 17:33
As per /120/f8/38129/1.html we're gonna try and test this tomorrow.
The aim is to create as laggy an environment as possible. We're meeting 5pm game time on wednesday at Da Boom on the preview grid. All avs welcome to help. Prim hair will be available (but is not compulsory). Feel free to bring anything you think may help lag - visitor counters etc. |
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TXGorilla Falcone
KWKAT Planetfurry DJ
Join date: 4 May 2004
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Lagging spree!
03-08-2005 18:02
hmm... ok ill have to make my smoke launcher agine... ill 4x the output of smoke and give it a longer life so it doesnt die after 1 minute...
Ill wear my wings or mabe even 2 sets and Ill rez the Tai-Pan Being evil and lagging for a good cause can be fun _____________________
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Owl Patel
Fish miner.
Join date: 7 Jul 2004
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03-08-2005 18:08
I lag terribly anyway... I bet Im not gonna be able to move at all if I go, which I probaly will anyways
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Olmy Seraph
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03-08-2005 23:04
I didn't think it was lag so much as packet loss that caused ghosting. But yeah, making the sim send a bunch of crap to 15 or 20 avs should cause enough packet loss to create some ghosts.
I recommend getting one of Starax's sculpture auto-rezzers. Those things pop in several hundred temp-on-rez prims every minute! _____________________
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Zuzi Martinez
goth dachshund
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,860
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03-10-2005 16:02
i couldn't make it to the ghost party but i just ran into an avatar ghost on the Morris/Oak Grove border in preview. weird thing is there were only a few people on and pretty low lag. haven't seen any object ghosts yet but i've seen how they try for a couple seconds then poof.
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Chris Linden
Program Manager
Join date: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 149
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Next Build
03-10-2005 17:52
Build 7 has one half of our ghost-busting implementation, build 8 should have the complete solution! But help us make sure! After build 8 comes out hammer away at it and see if you can create ghosts.
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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03-11-2005 00:53
I was testing this last night with a simple push-pad... the kind of thing that normally would send you flying 4 or 5 sims and make your AV ghost and force you to reload.
I asked Dan Linden and he confirmed - it seems now if a sim does not hand-off a player properly, the player is put at the center of the sim. So this seems to fix three major issues: - Pushguns that force reset of SL will no longer be effective. = less griefing tools - Cutting corners failure that leads to AV ghosting should be gone. - Privacy issue of using the above to spy on people will no longer be possible. I am extremely pleased that these have been resolved. _____________________
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Zuzi Martinez
goth dachshund
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
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03-11-2005 09:56
and.....
- do NOT buy land at the center of a sim unless you hope this hand off thing will give you dwell. _____________________
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Oz Spade
ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand
Join date: 23 Sep 2003
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03-11-2005 10:50
Haha, nice Zuzi
And hooray! No more ghosting! This is like a horrible rash you've had for years finaly go away! Whoever fixed this should get a cookie and many free beers. _____________________
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Ferran Brodsky
Better living through rum
Join date: 3 Feb 2004
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03-11-2005 12:19
I was testing this last night with a simple push-pad... the kind of thing that normally would send you flying 4 or 5 sims and make your AV ghost and force you to reload. I asked Dan Linden and he confirmed - it seems now if a sim does not hand-off a player properly, the player is put at the center of the sim. So this seems to fix three major issues: - Pushguns that force reset of SL will no longer be effective. = less griefing tools - Cutting corners failure that leads to AV ghosting should be gone. - Privacy issue of using the above to spy on people will no longer be possible. I am extremely pleased that these have been resolved. LOL and where does that leave your vehicle??? =P _____________________
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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03-11-2005 12:38
If ghosting really is fixed effectively, I would enjoy seeing an equal or greater amount of praise for the Lindens in the future thanking them for such a solution, as there has been criticism in the past.
It sounds reasonable. _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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03-11-2005 19:46
LOL and where does that leave your vehicle??? =P I haven't personally tested vehicles in test, but vehicles are usually too slow to AV ghost anyway. I'm hoping the solution was a simple moveObject that takes both the AV and vehicle, though, but at least you will be in the same sim if it's not. _____________________
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Trifen Fairplay
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Join date: 19 Jul 2004
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03-11-2005 21:04
lol its a can of worms isnt it
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shinmai Akebono
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Join date: 9 Jul 2004
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03-13-2005 02:13
I managed to ghost on 1.6. Its true that ghosting is much more difficult then it was before but not impossible. I did it by flying around with a rocket attached and force set to 9999 and bouncing around between sim lines. Even that took a little bit. I believe though for the average SL resident that ghosting is pretty much gone for good. Now you have to try to be ghosted. I don't think thats what most people want to do. Still great job Lindens for solving the most common causes of ghosting. Its greatly appreciated.
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Carnildo Greenacre
Flight Engineer
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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03-13-2005 23:38
I was testing this last night with a simple push-pad... the kind of thing that normally would send you flying 4 or 5 sims and make your AV ghost and force you to reload. I asked Dan Linden and he confirmed - it seems now if a sim does not hand-off a player properly, the player is put at the center of the sim. So this seems to fix three major issues: - Pushguns that force reset of SL will no longer be effective. = less griefing tools - Cutting corners failure that leads to AV ghosting should be gone. - Privacy issue of using the above to spy on people will no longer be possible. I am extremely pleased that these have been resolved. Crossing a sim corner in a vehicle still causes problems. _____________________
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Huns Valen
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Join date: 3 May 2003
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03-14-2005 15:59
I switched between avatars, all of which had at least 75 prims in attachments, a bunch of times in a row. No ghosting at all! It was also really fast compared to what I'd expect from <=1.5. I'll be impressed if it works so well on the main grid. I'll also be impressed if I can fly my jet all over the grid without random prims disappearing for random lengths of time.
edit: my jet is still doing the wierd missing prims thing in preview so I guess that is not fixed yet :/ _____________________
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Chris Linden
Program Manager
Join date: 10 Jan 2005
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03-14-2005 16:11
I managed to ghost on 1.6. Its true that ghosting is much more difficult then it was before but not impossible. I did it by flying around with a rocket attached and force set to 9999 and bouncing around between sim lines. Even that took a little bit. I believe though for the average SL resident that ghosting is pretty much gone for good. Now you have to try to be ghosted. I don't think thats what most people want to do. Still great job Lindens for solving the most common causes of ghosting. Its greatly appreciated. When did you run this test? This weekend? We did a publish late Friday with the second set of ghosting fixes. Did you run the test before Friday or after? Chris |
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Zuzi Martinez
goth dachshund
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,860
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03-14-2005 16:49
just got tracked down by a Linden and told he was having a conversation with my ghost. other than that and spotting somebody ghosted the only ghosting i've seen is the swirling particles from deleting 7644 prims at once stuck around for about 2 minutes after the prims disapeared (slowly).
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shinmai Akebono
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Join date: 9 Jul 2004
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03-15-2005 07:58
When did you run this test? This weekend? We did a publish late Friday with the second set of ghosting fixes. Did you run the test before Friday or after? Chris I did the ghosting test on the day I posted wich was on the 13th. So that must have been early Sunday morning. So that would have been after the last publishing. |
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Rysidian Rubio
Ruby Red Head
Join date: 14 Jan 2004
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03-17-2005 22:09
Hmm I had objects ghost for me yesterday, just 4 <10,10,1> sized prims that i deleted at the same time, and 2/4 ghosted. Tried this a few times and got similar results. Of course i'm in Australia so higher pings might have something to do with it?
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Neil Protagonist
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03-19-2005 11:06
Eggy post a screenie of that costume, I wanna see what constitutes a 6000 prim costume! hehehe
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