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Texture Permission Altered... bad.

Sezmra Svarog
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03-31-2005 17:43
In the release notes I noticed the change to textures that are No Transfer, and No Copy.

Essentially, this will make skins that utilize the Tattoo slots, even more inconvenient. Any texture that is (No Copy) or (No Transfer) cannot be used in any Clothing, or Skins(or parcel shots).

So this means that my current structure of selling skins has been broken. I use the "Sell Separate Head(Tattoo) Textures" method for makeup/beards. I make these textures Mod/Copy/No Trans. This allows me to cut down on the usual lazy theft method of reselling content, but at the same time allows my customers to keep multiple skins with different head tattoos(makeups).

Also, I know that some people sell clothing textures so that people can put it on whatever layer they want it on. I had considered doing this as well, but now I'm not so sure.

Now, I'm either going to have to sell makeup with full permissions(and risk practically GIVING away my hard work), or selling full skins with different head tattoos(makeups) and thus upping my price quite a bit. I really don't want to bleed anyone out of $L, the skin market is already full of high-priced products as it is.

I really am not sure how to proceed other than taking all my skin-products off the shelf for now, to prevent someone from buying anymore and thus finding out it's broken, and getting upset with me over it.
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Christopher Omega
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03-31-2005 18:59
You might want to post this on the hotline...
Aces Spade
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03-31-2005 20:29
Lots are having this problem.. i will file a bug report as well
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Ryntha Suavage
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03-31-2005 21:08
On a related note. No modify, no transfer, copyable textures cannot be used on anything at all :( I noticed I purchased some Wall paper textures I wanted to use on prims and they will not show up in the picker nor can I drag them onto a primitive or object. Thanks for not allowing the use of most textures in SecondLife LL.
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Fyre Raine
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04-01-2005 02:57
*sighs* This is not good at all..I own alot of skins that use tattoo's and are no cop/no transfer and now not wearable..not good at all. I hope this will change with the next update. *drops head on desk*
Paca Hannibal
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04-01-2005 05:50
I was shocked to find out Linden Labs did this, I can just imagine all the tattoo/skin artists and their clients who got screwed over by this.
Echo Dragonfly
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04-01-2005 08:17
:mad: This is bad, very bad. All of my tattoos are nomod/copy/notrans.. So if I understand this right, basicly anyone who purchased my tats won't be able to use them now? :eek: *Gets ready for the barrage of IM's* Who do we send them to for a refund? LL?
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Sezmra Svarog
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04-01-2005 08:18
Ryntha. :(

This is rather puzzling, and I find it hard to believe this is permanent. We have to have full perm textures to do anything now? Crippling the skins and tattoos out there wasn't enough? :P
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04-01-2005 11:03
I think it's a bug..
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Roseann Flora
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Why make it impossible to sell makeup?
04-01-2005 11:39
What was the reason for the change in texture permissions? Why make it impossible to sell makeup?
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Fyre Raine
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04-01-2005 12:59
I'm just curious which Linden is going to refund us the Lindens we've spent on Second Skins and all thet tattoo's that are now usless??
Tharkis Olafson
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04-01-2005 13:02
:mad: :confused: :mad: :eek:

<-- One pissed off tattoo artist.
Ryntha Suavage
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04-01-2005 14:13
From: Sezmra Svarog
Ryntha. :(

This is rather puzzling, and I find it hard to believe this is permanent. We have to have full perm textures to do anything now? Crippling the skins and tattoos out there wasn't enough? :P


Well, good news about No Modify/Copy/No Transfer textures is that if I select a single face of one primitive then I can actually drag and place the texture on that selected spot then it will go onto the primitive's single face. It's rather painstakingly slow, to be honest, and yesterday it didn't work - but today it does. :shrug: I can't imagine they will keep the perms this way either. I seriously hope they reform - at least back to how they were before the update.
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Pal Platini
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04-01-2005 14:53
I've managed to get all my boxes & vendors setup not to sell, along with a notice I made up regarding this new 1.6 bug/feature. Tried to do it in a way where I can easily get everything back up for sale. I SURE HOPE this is not how it will stay!

How could LL drop such a major bomb as this with no warning, or time buffer?! Just thinking about all the peeps that are still unaware, buying & selling unusable textures, just makes me ill.

Almost makes me glad I have to go to my rl job tonight. heh
Sezmra Svarog
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04-01-2005 15:07
Well... if the skin/tattoo thing wasn't enough of a dent.

It looks like this could affect scripted items that are customizable. :( Take crystalshard's awesome new Dance Foo. If you attempt to customize it via its menu, the texture disappears and it becomes invisible.

I can only imagine it's due to a texture that's either No Copy or No Transfer. Now I suppose I should check all my clothing items that involve prims...


Fudge. -.-
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Willow Zander
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04-01-2005 15:12
On the Hotline, they have answered that this is a bug?
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Sezmra Svarog
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04-01-2005 15:18
You can find the following hotline thread and answer:
/invalid_link.html

Maybe scouring the hotline forum again will bring something up.

EDIT
Like this:
/invalid_link.html
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Willow Zander
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04-01-2005 15:20
You can also find....

This Response

EDIT:

Dammit!!! Faster than moi!
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Sezmra Svarog
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04-01-2005 15:23
:D

*pinch*

(BUT! I'm glad to hear there will possibly be a fix next week :) )
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Willow Zander
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04-01-2005 15:24
Me too!

I was downing beer to ease my pain!!

SKIN IS MY LIFE (well buying it!) I am aiming for a world record :p
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Roseann Flora
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LINDEN"S INPORTANT PLAEASE READ!
04-01-2005 15:59
From: Pal Platini
I've managed to get all my boxes & vendors setup not to sell, along with a notice I made up regarding this new 1.6 bug/feature. Tried to do it in a way where I can easily get everything back up for sale. I SURE HOPE this is not how it will stay!

How could LL drop such a major bomb as this with no warning, or time buffer?! Just thinking about all the peeps that are still unaware, buying & selling unusable textures, just makes me ill.

Almost makes me glad I have to go to my rl job tonight. heh




I hope this is NOT how it will stay either!?
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Roseann Flora
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Reply from Jeska Linden
04-01-2005 16:07
I got this reply from Jeska Linden in the linden hotline.



Roseann, there is a known issue with tatoos and skins not acting properly in 1.6, this should be fixed early next week.
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LadyMacbrat Loveless
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04-01-2005 21:38
Keeping my fingers crossed that I can use my no transfer textures!
Valdimir Statosky
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04-02-2005 03:31
From: Ryntha Suavage
On a related note. No modify, no transfer, copyable textures cannot be used on anything at all :( I noticed I purchased some Wall paper textures I wanted to use on prims and they will not show up in the picker nor can I drag them onto a primitive or object. Thanks for not allowing the use of most textures in SecondLife LL.



When the texture picker comes up, is the apply instanily box check, if so no copy and no tranfer textures will not show up in the picker. You need to uncheck the box and they will show up. To even drag them out of your inventory and be droped into the texture picker, this box has to be unchecked. This has worked for me all night, even thou I am have other difficultlies right at the moment.
Lordfly Digeridoo
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04-02-2005 07:24
From: Fyre Raine
I'm just curious which Linden is going to refund us the Lindens we've spent on Second Skins and all thet tattoo's that are now usless??


No, they won't.

However, post something in the Hotline to Linden forum, and you'll get a response on when they'll fix this misfeature.

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