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BlackAdder York

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Join date: 22 May 2003

Posts: 283

12-04-2005 22:12

From: Moss Talamasca

P2P is sweet!

Er, yeah...guess it would be.

It was also sweet in version 0.8.

'Course, in those days you could still log in and see textures on stuff.

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Darzus Strutt

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Join date: 3 Sep 2003

Posts: 67

12-06-2005 07:18

Cant connect..blah blah.. blah

Im getting this same problem to ..although I used the auto updater..the link to the download of preview sends me to the sytem status page and I cant download the .exe file
where and how did you all download the file?

Peta DaSilva

Registered User

Join date: 3 May 2005

Posts: 35

12-06-2005 11:00

From: Darzus Strutt

Cant connect..blah blah.. blah

Im getting this same problem to ..although I used the auto updater..the link to the download of preview sends me to the sytem status page and I cant download the .exe file
where and how did you all download the file?

try this
http://secondlife.com/downloads/preview.php

Beatfox Xevious

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Join date: 1 Jun 2004

Posts: 879

12-06-2005 11:24

BTW Darzus, you probably got the system status page because the main grid is currently down for maintenance.

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Shara Holiday

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Join date: 24 May 2005

Posts: 349

12-06-2005 22:01

maybe they should try to fix 1.7 before they think on 1.8.?..

Kyrah Abattoir

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12-07-2005 01:22

well usually an update is a fix, silly

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BlackAdder York

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Join date: 22 May 2003

Posts: 283

12-08-2005 16:59

From: Shara Holiday

maybe they should try to fix 1.7 before they think on 1.8.?..

Doubt it.

Many of the problems with the code have been around a long time (some date back to Beta, and very many to 1.2 and 1.3). For years, new problems have been piled on top of old ones. There's only just so much that can be 'fixed' without re-writing the code from scratch.

At this point the 1.x series is a lost cause, and I'm relieved to see that little development effort was wasted trying to rush Havok2, HTML, full XML-RPC, etc. into 1.8 Preview.

I hope that the majority of Dev time and energy is now being spent on 2.0.

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Gwyneth Llewelyn

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Join date: 31 Jul 2004

Posts: 1,336

12-09-2005 05:22

Well, good point, BlackAdder — it would be a waste of resources to throw everything away for 2.0 just to make us a bit happier

Although under the new development model — features getting implemented as they are ready, and not according to a Big Picture — I wonder if we're not going to see 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, and so on, all with just 1 or 2 new features, much before 2.0 comes out. We can only wait to see what happens.

In either case, I think it's a resonable trade-off to have a "major release" with just 1 or 2 well-tested new features every other month or so, than a Big Major Release with 5,347 new features which have to be bug-fixed over a week with the developers working 24h/7, like it happened in the past. This new development model seems to have an advantage: only a limited group of developers ever participates in a release (ie, 2 features, 2 groups) leaving the rest of the developer team concentrated on continuing their own projects without interference.

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Malachi Petunia

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Join date: 21 Sep 2003

Posts: 3,414

12-09-2005 06:15

If LL is working in their own best interests, they are hopefully working on 2.0 with their major development effort as there are some huge design limitations inherent in the structure of SL1 which cannot be fixed without a ground-up rewrite.

I've long suspected that they are doing exactly this as the SL1 track looks very much like a product put into maintainence - which is a big reason that we're seeing a succession of "junk" feature releases that are mostly centered around keeping SL1 from utterly falling apart until SL2 is ready.

They don't have to be so damn quiet about it, but it is their choice.

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Tasman Perth

Geekette Extraordinaire

Join date: 7 Jun 2005

Posts: 225

Questions about the preview grid..

12-09-2005 06:37

Enquiring cyber-folk want to know:

1. Is the preview grid a copy of the main grid? ie: If I own a lot on the main grid, do I also own it in the preview grid?? Are improvements made before a certain date there??

2. Can both 1.7.X and 1.8.0.(0) be installed on the same machine?? .. if so, what are the gotchas??

Thanks
Tas

TXGorilla Falcone

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Join date: 4 May 2004

Posts: 176

12-09-2005 14:25

I can awnser both of thouse...

1. Yes it is a copy of the maingrid... a backed up copy of it to be precice.
New users most likely cant use preview dew to LL uses an earlyer date... 1 month to 3-2 weeks is the time frame they have used backup of the grid.
Also the full grid will not be online.

2.Yes both can be installed.

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Tasman Perth

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12-10-2005 09:18

Thank you.. Will give it a try.. dying to see the water ripples...

Tas

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BlackAdder York Charter Member Join date: 22 May 2003 Posts: 283	12-04-2005 22:12 From: Moss Talamasca P2P is sweet! Er, yeah...guess it would be. It was also sweet in version 0.8. 'Course, in those days you could still log in and see textures on stuff. _____________________ Avatar Central (Aqua 140, 220) - Come in and Equip yourself. Everything under the sun, plus a few Freebies. The Black Adder...Lord High Executioner, and Harbinger of the Doomed Rat
Darzus Strutt Registered User Join date: 3 Sep 2003 Posts: 67	12-06-2005 07:18 Cant connect..blah blah.. blah Im getting this same problem to ..although I used the auto updater..the link to the download of preview sends me to the sytem status page and I cant download the .exe file where and how did you all download the file?
Peta DaSilva Registered User Join date: 3 May 2005 Posts: 35	12-06-2005 11:00 From: Darzus Strutt Cant connect..blah blah.. blah Im getting this same problem to ..although I used the auto updater..the link to the download of preview sends me to the sytem status page and I cant download the .exe file where and how did you all download the file? try this http://secondlife.com/downloads/preview.php
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	12-06-2005 11:24 BTW Darzus, you probably got the system status page because the main grid is currently down for maintenance. _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Shara Holiday Magic Mischief Maker Join date: 24 May 2005 Posts: 349	12-06-2005 22:01 maybe they should try to fix 1.7 before they think on 1.8.?..
Kyrah Abattoir cruelty delight Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,786	12-07-2005 01:22 well usually an update is a fix, silly _____________________ tired of XStreetSL? try those! apez http://tinyurl.com/yfm9d5b metalife http://tinyurl.com/yzm3yvw metaverse exchange http://tinyurl.com/yzh7j4a slapt http://tinyurl.com/yfqah9u
BlackAdder York Charter Member Join date: 22 May 2003 Posts: 283	12-08-2005 16:59 From: Shara Holiday maybe they should try to fix 1.7 before they think on 1.8.?.. Doubt it. Many of the problems with the code have been around a long time (some date back to Beta, and very many to 1.2 and 1.3). For years, new problems have been piled on top of old ones. There's only just so much that can be 'fixed' without re-writing the code from scratch. At this point the 1.x series is a lost cause, and I'm relieved to see that little development effort was wasted trying to rush Havok2, HTML, full XML-RPC, etc. into 1.8 Preview. I hope that the majority of Dev time and energy is now being spent on 2.0. _____________________ Avatar Central (Aqua 140, 220) - Come in and Equip yourself. Everything under the sun, plus a few Freebies. The Black Adder...Lord High Executioner, and Harbinger of the Doomed Rat
Gwyneth Llewelyn Winking Loudmouth Join date: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,336	12-09-2005 05:22 Well, good point, BlackAdder — it would be a waste of resources to throw everything away for 2.0 just to make us a bit happier Although under the new development model — features getting implemented as they are ready, and not according to a Big Picture — I wonder if we're not going to see 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, and so on, all with just 1 or 2 new features, much before 2.0 comes out. We can only wait to see what happens. In either case, I think it's a resonable trade-off to have a "major release" with just 1 or 2 well-tested new features every other month or so, than a Big Major Release with 5,347 new features which have to be bug-fixed over a week with the developers working 24h/7, like it happened in the past. This new development model seems to have an advantage: only a limited group of developers ever participates in a release (ie, 2 features, 2 groups) leaving the rest of the developer team concentrated on continuing their own projects without interference. _____________________
Malachi Petunia Gentle Miscreant Join date: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 3,414	12-09-2005 06:15 If LL is working in their own best interests, they are hopefully working on 2.0 with their major development effort as there are some huge design limitations inherent in the structure of SL1 which cannot be fixed without a ground-up rewrite. I've long suspected that they are doing exactly this as the SL1 track looks very much like a product put into maintainence - which is a big reason that we're seeing a succession of "junk" feature releases that are mostly centered around keeping SL1 from utterly falling apart until SL2 is ready. They don't have to be so damn quiet about it, but it is their choice. _____________________
Tasman Perth Geekette Extraordinaire Join date: 7 Jun 2005 Posts: 225	Questions about the preview grid.. 12-09-2005 06:37 Enquiring cyber-folk want to know: 1. Is the preview grid a copy of the main grid? ie: If I own a lot on the main grid, do I also own it in the preview grid?? Are improvements made before a certain date there?? 2. Can both 1.7.X and 1.8.0.(0) be installed on the same machine?? .. if so, what are the gotchas?? Thanks Tas
TXGorilla Falcone KWKAT Planetfurry DJ Join date: 4 May 2004 Posts: 176	12-09-2005 14:25 I can awnser both of thouse... 1. Yes it is a copy of the maingrid... a backed up copy of it to be precice. New users most likely cant use preview dew to LL uses an earlyer date... 1 month to 3-2 weeks is the time frame they have used backup of the grid. Also the full grid will not be online. 2.Yes both can be installed. _____________________ Drunken Monkeys danceing on the tables. Falling from the sky just like in a fable.
Tasman Perth Geekette Extraordinaire Join date: 7 Jun 2005 Posts: 225	12-10-2005 09:18 Thank you.. Will give it a try.. dying to see the water ripples... Tas

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