down to 2 FPS when using local lighting

You don't need hard numbers to go inworld with a 20fps PC, switch on Local Lighting, restart and see 1.5fps!

Encouraging necroposting Torley...?

Encouraging rippleshock.

I see that people are still promoted to the level of their incompetence.

Hmmm, that must be why I'm not being promoted!

I totally agree, The game is horrible on my side even though i disable trees, clouds, fog etc.

WOW! Look at the numbers of replies in this thread! I'm amazed my little complaint has attracted such a lenghty discussion (for me that is).

Anyway, I want to say that the only "fix" that seems to work for me at this time is to reduce the draw distance to minimum, 64m. Then my fps goes back up to 30+. I guess if you play at night, seeing anything farther than that is pretty useless.

I use the local lighting around and inside my buildings because the effect is dynamic. Using texture to simulate the lighting effects, like a spotlight on a wall, is just too much work, and texture lighting effects are static. It's all a question of believable effects, for the enhancement of the immersive experience.

I just hope that the degradation of performance we have seen since v1.7 is not going to get any worse. What will happen when 64m will still be too much information to process for the average PC? SL without local lighting and shadows looks like a cheap sunday morning cartoon. An expensive one at that.

It is truely fantastic!

I love to hear the passion about lights... the dynamicism is what grabs me too. I appreciate all the cleverness with shadow and light maps pointing the way. This is a good example. It reminds me of how the first audio samplers preserved a static "fragment" of the sound, and then in the future, advanced interpolation and pitch+time-stretching techniques made for increasingly "elastic" audio.

For anyone who hasn't read it yet, Steve Linden mentioned about a future hardware lighting model--yes, this will make better use of your graphics card.

Significant reason, inshort, why Local Lighting's performance is so brutal (and you may have noticed Shadows do the same), is because it grinds your CPU down to the floor, on top of everything SL is already doing. And the more light sources, the worse. Rather than wrestle with that, making more use of the GPU will be warmly welcomed. Ripple Water is already one step in that direction, for example.

Fantastic!

Thanks for the link! Did you mean "fantasic" in the "wonderful or superb" sense or the "based on or existing only in fantasy"? Thanks!

Both! Bridging! Like SL, bringing a dream to life.

The basic problem with Local Lighting appears to be that LL is relying on the CPU to perform the calculations required.
A far more sensible approach might be to use the graphic card features to do the job - as most games do?

And as far as sheer power is concerned, a couple of days ago I killed my cpu (carelessness changing a cooler, the cpu ripped out of the ZIF and bent several pins, one got broken straightening it - the price of a quieter life) and because I couldn't obtain a replacement I had to replace both cpu and motherboard.

Changing from a 3.2Gig P4E to an Athlon 4000+ has (with the same 4Gb of RAM of which SL STILL refuses to use more than 300Mb of), somewhat to my surprise, provided a noticeable performance boost - like 8-9fps in a known performance location! However, Local Lighting is STILL unusable, which gives an idea of just how much cpu it requires...

In these days of 256mb DDR3 Ram graphics cards with 1Gig+ processors failing to use the graphics card resources is madness!

I have not been able to use local lighting AT ALL since 1,7 otherwise it takes 2 minutes to turn sideways or cross a room. It's painfully slow.

Since 1,7 and all subsequent update I sped the first 1-3 minutes or more on log in or on tp to another sim waiting for the forest of grey panels to turn into anything at all. Textures load so slowly sometimes the only way to get to see them is right click and edit and they drop into place.

Every time SL upgrades my machine struggles its like I feel I need a new computer every 3 months to cope with game. No amount of memory seems to make things better.

Just once I would like to go back to the first days of SL when it all appeared and worked smoothly instantly when logging in. Now in the advanced days of 1.9 i move like snail, crash 20 times a night, wait minutes to see the world when logging in and generally enjoy a lesser experience.. and I am still paying more and more money

not so good.. bring back the old days.. without local lighting nightime is dull and all my carefully made light effects do nothng... the world is grey

Grey is the new SL

Yes, "future" is something we hear a lot from LL. In the mean time, LL will have to make do without my tier money. I'm closing shop on the 10th of April as it is my monthly renewal date. I'll come back to being a paying customer when SL's performance goes up to >35fps viewer rate @ 512m draw distance, with all details setting set to max. It was fun flying a plane back in v1.6 and I miss it dearly. Now, the only way to move and see what's coming is walking. Ridiculous!

I think 1.9 should be fixed before this i could do everything at great speed now when i try to walk i get 5 sec lag but chattign in im and porting are fast i hope this lag will bypass i had to downgrade to basic because of it.

Perhaps we need to encourage a rollback to 1.8?

I second a rollback!

I'm constantly in a full blown lag fest since this uptade. Changing settings anywhere doesn't help at all. Right click menus freezes me for a minute or 2, world map is death... freeze then crash. And my fps has went from between 30-45 to me being lucky if it goes above 2. So I've been reduced to being able to do Nothing but sit in one spot and chat.

You beat me to it Torley, thanks for remembering.

Now, after a couple of days testing this new version of SL, my previous opinion of SL lighting has greatly improved. So much so that I'm currently hard at work making lamps. Flying around with all settings at max and draw distance at 128m gives me an average viewer FPS of 8-10, not lighnting fast but playable. On my land, the same setting give me 25-30 FPS! That I have never seen. I have 6 sources of light on...

The flexiprims are neat, now we can have decent looking flags.

Keep it up LL

The experience with the new lighting is that the lights are not stopped by solid prims. That is, walls, lampshades, light boxes, none of them stop the light from radiating beyond them?

True, but the side of a prim opposite the light source will be dark, so even if an object behind a wall will have light shining on it through the wall, the wall itself will have a lighted side and a dark side, but no shadow.

It's almost real looking, but I agree it still need some work.