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Gah! Arrows Are An Eyesore!

Canimal Zephyr
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Join date: 16 Sep 2004
Posts: 705
03-16-2006 01:12
WHAT THE HELL!! all i can see now are my arrows! i can't look away! its white & bright & UGLY!

you had to make them THAT bright?!?!? so that the rest of the inventory pales next to them? maybe the next update can feature tiny glowing puppets pointing at the folders w/ a text bubble going "click here to open"!! looking at my inventory just turned to CRAP! & it was SO orgenized!!

Whoever makes decisions on There & IMVU must have gotten a job on SL & ADVISED THIS CHANGE!!! HORRIBLE HORRIBLE DECISION!!! PLEASE change the arrows to not be the most visible thing it the inventory!!
Kyran Nyak
Certified lunatic
Join date: 4 Jan 2005
Posts: 24
03-16-2006 01:15
I do agree fully on this. coz ok, water ripples i can still semi-understand, as it visually improves sl but the arrows really get too anoying. the simple plus really did nuff and was clear nuff to me. (more clear than this system anyhow). This dun make it look better imho.
and totally yeh on the uber bright. atleast add like 50% transparancy or a lil more peacefull color than eyeburning white -.-
Kenzington Fairlight
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Join date: 9 Jun 2003
Posts: 139
03-16-2006 01:21
o_O

i recall a time when i found the plus signs a bit too small and sometimes cumbersom to click on. I got over that, so yeah, the plus signs were fine. But so are nice big arrows that are really hard to miss. Pretty? who cares, it's your inventory.
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Anastasya Hailey
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Join date: 9 Mar 2005
Posts: 1
No Arrows
03-16-2006 01:32
they take over my inventory and make me very very sad thier ugly and have NO purpose other then to annoy me.
Willow Zander
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Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
03-16-2006 01:40
Yes yes, I agree like some other things in SL, the arrows are ugly and retarded.
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Starley Thereian
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Join date: 1 Jun 2004
Posts: 330
03-16-2006 01:43
I do not like the arrows either. :(
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Heuvadoches Naumova
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Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 174
03-16-2006 02:35
I honestly don't mind the arrows. They're just a cosmetic tweak that doesn't affect me much. Why not worry about something that deserves more attention, like sticky animations, planar texture bugs, or some of the more other sticky wickets.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
03-16-2006 02:47
I don't like the arrows either. Kick them out. They look like web graphics circa 1996.

Also, I don't like the new "find in inventory" highlight, which is a bit garish. But the arrows are worse.
CrystalShard Foo
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Join date: 6 Feb 2004
Posts: 682
03-16-2006 03:27
Please remove the arrows.

I try to read the name of the object or give an overall look at my folder-tree, and all I end up seeing is arrows, arrows and arrows. It just hops right out at me and completly take over my field of vision.

The Plus and Minus sign worked MUCH better. The arrows are horrid for usability. please revert back to the way it was!
Giddeon Charming
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Join date: 2 Feb 2005
Posts: 30
Down with the arrows!
03-16-2006 05:11
From: Canimal Zephyr
WHAT THE HELL!! all i can see now are my arrows! i can't look away! its white & bright & UGLY!

I don't know who needs these peter & jaine puppet show instructions that "> that is a folder" but their not worth the rest of us suffering!! contemplating leaving SL over this!!]

Cani gets a lil excited sumtimes but I do have to agree. The arrows make the inventory look like a 3rd grade learning game. Its quite an eye sore and totally unnecissary. You show me one person that needs the hideous arrows to use their inventory, just one. Its jsut a case of trying to fix sumthin thats not broken. Wot they need to do is take the huds of the pictures. Anyway, THE ARROWS SUCK!!1!one!!1!
SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
Posts: 14,229
03-16-2006 05:29
The arrows are bad, too bright, too big. The animated look as they turn is bad too.

Thie highlight is terrible.
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Phillip Bligh
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Join date: 3 Mar 2006
Posts: 36
03-16-2006 08:14
The arrows don't bother me at all. What they need to do is make it optional.
Fatal Raine
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 48
03-16-2006 18:01
I agree with Philip. I can understand why you'd hate them, and they are very ugly, but it's something SL has that you just have to get over (like lag). However making them optional would be nice, oh how I do miss my little +'s!

Edit: And when you're tired, or you glance at the arrows it looks like they aren't aligned. Have to double take to make sure I really am insane and SL isn't THAT bad.
Isruel Asturias
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Join date: 8 Oct 2005
Posts: 30
03-16-2006 18:18
There also seems to be a blindingly bright and colossal orange triangle in the bottom right hand corner of the mini-map. This is an outrage, as the orange triangle is in fact orange, and a triangle, and on my mini-map. Please remove this incredible nuisance, as it drastically impairs my ability to look at the green dots on my mini-map properly, which I must add are also entirely too bright.
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Rhynalae Eldrich
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Join date: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 61
03-16-2006 20:03
From: Canimal Zephyr
PLEASE change the arrows to not be the most visible thing it the inventory!!


Yes, PLEASE, Devs -- get rid of the arrows, put back the standard directory tree icons (plus and minus sign).

I appreciate many of the changes, but for the inventory folder, I don't know why you changed something that was not broken in the first place.

This isn't a matter of just personal taste (although personally I think it looks garish).

This is also a matter of the arrows being so large that it makes it hard for the eye to track across the screen and distinguish folders from arrows and other elements of the tree structure. I'm get a headache from looking at the inventory.

I work in technical writing and web site programming for a living, and I've learned that when you take your design so far that it mars the content, it's time to scale back. Please rescind this change and put things back the way they were.
Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
03-16-2006 20:32
From: Isruel Asturias
There also seems to be a blindingly bright and colossal orange triangle in the bottom right hand corner of the mini-map.
I never noticed. I'm ticked off at the the bright blue "my objects" blobs on the mini map making the almost identically colored green balls and T-shapes almost invisible.
Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
03-16-2006 20:34
One of the fascinating things I noticed with the arrows is, when I drag-and-drop a an item into another folder, and the arrow slowly turns from a 3 o' clock to a 6 o' clock position--towards popping open. That's a pleasant feedback indicator, even if the arrow is rather large.
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Nargus Asturias
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Join date: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 499
03-16-2006 20:53
i myself find the new arrow is much easier to click on to open/close inventory. Double-click take too much time to me. Reducing the brightness of them a little and things should be fine.
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Heuvadoches Naumova
Equus Exoticus
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 174
03-16-2006 21:03
Speaking of arrows, what the heck is up with the XYZ coords and the positioning arrows doing in a screen shot when you have an item selected for edit. This never happened before? I used to pose people on a ball and be able to keep it in edit mode for fine tweaking while I moved them about. now...I have to go out of edit and reposition the camera after it springs back every time. *grumble*
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03-17-2006 08:30
We don't need stupid ass arrows or editing appearance text. What we need is bugs fixed, better rezzing, etc. Stop with the stupid pet tricks that no one seems to care about!!
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Sabrina Doolittle
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Join date: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 214
03-17-2006 10:34
In addition to being fugly, the arrows are LESS intuitive than the +/- signs and therefore the UI is actually degraded rather than upgraded. w00t. not.

Also, I can, broadly speaking, spell. If I type in "silver" and search for silver items in my Inv, doesn't it stad to reason that every item returned WILL HAVE THE WORD SILVER IN IT? I don't need that word pointed out to me in ugly contrast - I just searched for it. Duh.

The Inv list also loses focus after you search for something and *any* other event happens. Search for X, select an instance of X, and when someone pops on or offline, you lose focus on your sleected instance of X and re-focus back tot eh top of the list.

Maybe instead of pushing out a new release every Wednesday, you guys could, you know, spend a week testing between releases?
Heuvadoches Naumova
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Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 174
03-17-2006 14:35
From: Sabrina Doolittle
Maybe instead of pushing out a new release every Wednesday, you guys could, you know, spend a week testing between releases?


Slow down, tiger, you're going to get this thing locked, we don't need that here. Intelligent conversation is better than being argumentative.

Though I agree with the spirit behind your passionate statment, I don't agree with the tone. Bugs are not always problems. Creative solutions will be found, eventually either by the programmers or by the community eventually. I view this viewer and server as BETA stuff 100% of the time.

I disagree about the white arrows. I find them more eye pleasing than the small [+] or [-]. The nifty little twisting motion that was promoted earlier in the thread is a nice and unnesessary widget, but that's what we seem to want...widgets. The trick is everyone intelligently wanting enough of one widget.

I can understand the reasoning behind the highlight. Perhaps they're gearing up to make something out of the search other than a literal string. Something like regular expression matching from the search bar, or boolean keword searches (this AND that, this AND NOT that).

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The Inv list also loses focus after you search for something and *any* other event happens. Search for X, select an instance of X, and when someone pops on or offline, you lose focus on your sleected instance of X and re-focus back tot eh top of the list.


This sounds like an item worth submitting a bug report on. Can you repeat this? Document the steps and do it again. Does it happen to anyone else? Give them your exact steps and step it out with them. If this person can repeat it according your instructions, ask him/her/whatever to help by submiting one too.
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Sabrina Doolittle
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Join date: 15 Nov 2005
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03-17-2006 22:25
You know, it's the "eventually" part that has my knickers in a twist. Basic stuff is *broken* and has been broken for numeous releases. Instead of getting a functioning in-world account history, which is a pretty core requirement in my spec, I've now got a sodding widget to replace a function that actually worked perfectly well.

It took what, five months? to fix the Excel download version of the transaction history - but hey, we got rippled water!

C'mon. That's crazy. And people who are dependent on LL to supply core features - features that are essential for business, once worked and then went accidentally AWOL with a new release - are prefectly justified in saying "Hey, fix the toys you broke that we're already using before you build new ones."

Yes, spreadsheets are boring and water is cool, but that's not the way to run a development and testing schedule.

From: Heuvadoches Naumova
This sounds like an item worth submitting a bug report on. Can you repeat this? Document the steps and do it again. Does it happen to anyone else? Give them your exact steps and step it out with them. If this person can repeat it according your instructions, ask him/her/whatever to help by submiting one too.


Of course I submitted a bug report. The issue has been replicated by seveal posters in this forum as well - there are several threads with a bunch of "me too" posts on it already.
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03-18-2006 03:51
From: Canimal Zephyr
WHAT THE HELL!! all i can see now are my arrows! i can't look away! its white & bright & UGLY!

you had to make them THAT bright?!?!? so that the rest of the inventory pales next to them? maybe the next update can feature tiny glowing puppets pointing at the folders w/ a text bubble going "click here to open"!! looking at my inventory just turned to CRAP! & it was SO orgenized!!

Whoever makes decisions on There & IMVU must have gotten a job on SL & ADVISED THIS CHANGE!!! HORRIBLE HORRIBLE DECISION!!! PLEASE change the arrows to not be the most visible thing it the inventory!!


WOT she said! It's UGLY, distracting and difficult to do searches with - ANOTHER 'fix' I'm unaware anyone asked for that has messed up something the was working previously!

What is with LL? There are any number of major issues need fixing, instead the developers go around screwing up things that were acceptable. And Phil wonders why we aren't happy? Bah!
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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03-18-2006 20:11
From: Doc Nielsen
ANOTHER 'fix' I'm unaware anyone asked for

I think someone has asked for these sorts of things. One person.
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