Roll back to previous version, least it worked to some degree
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Soren Romulus
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Jun 2003
Posts: 159
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11-30-2006 15:25
This current version is a mess..entire builds are gone. Our buisness in Seongsil completely ruined by the current version..everything is missing and we have a big event planned that will bring a major RW software development company to SL and we can't even have a test and with no build we are sure to miss this opportunity. This would have meant exposure to 300 members of the media and also a membership of 150000..You want to put out stuff like this..you really should test it more thoroughly. I am not one to complain, but when I see a friend so heart broken over this and also threatenning to leave and your team won't even work with us..makes me really consider, telling the company to not even bother.
Roll it back till you get it working right..then deploy, but not at the risk of loss of buisness for those who pay to be in here and USE to believe in your company.
Soren Romulus
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Carina Cordeaux
dragon. rawr.
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 27
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11-30-2006 15:30
From: Soren Romulus This current version is a mess..entire builds are gone. Our buisness in Seongsil completely ruined by the current version..everything is missing and we have a big event planned that will bring a major RW software development company to SL and we can't even have a test and with no build we are sure to miss this opportunity. This would have meant exposure to 300 members of the media and also a membership of 150000..You want to put out stuff like this..you really should test it more thoroughly. I am not one to complain, but when I see a friend so heart broken over this and also threatenning to leave and your team won't even work with us..makes me really consider, telling the company to not even bother.
Roll it back till you get it working right..then deploy, but not at the risk of loss of buisness for those who pay to be in here and USE to believe in your company.
Soren Romulus The man in charge (Lindens) or the government is always ebil, yes. But, such is life and the risk you take, especially in a software game...I find that the Lindens always continually trying to improve improves the quality of the game. Yes, bugs are to result, sorry, they're human too, unfortunately. But, if your friend wants to leave, then...he can (i.e. X button at top of screen). He took the risk of time and money into something as unstable as Second Life can be.
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Soren Romulus
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Jun 2003
Posts: 159
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Current Version Feedback
11-30-2006 16:24
The man in charge (Lindens) or the government is always ebil, yes. But, such is life and the risk you take, especially in a software game...I find that the Lindens always continually trying to improve improves the quality of the game. Yes, bugs are to result, sorry, they're human too, unfortunately. But, if your friend wants to leave, then...he can (i.e. X button at top of screen). He took the risk of time and money into something as unstable as Second Life can be. __________________
Carina,
Please, I didn't ask your opinion or anyone elses and when you have been in SL as long as we have please make all the comments you want. Those of us who have invested in something as "unstable as Second Life" understand the risk..that isn't the point of my post..it was a comment on the Current Version, which sucks and how it is making those who are financially effected by the outcome of whether a RW company takes a look at SL or not. Those of us who make a really good buisness in SL, not selling our bodies or Land Baroning or ripping off each other and that is what you call a "GAME" see the potential in SL, of which it seems LL does not or consider its' customers. I have been here since Beta, your join date or alt, whichever it may be, seems to be April? I have been through the good times and the bad times and the current version is the worst. Especially when it effects the outcome of something this important. They were notified before the update through Robin Linden of the impending event and still no even we will try to get the event site back. So if you have to flame or whatever, please do it somewhere else. Pot shots at friends or those who have worked hard to get someplace in life, are not appreciated or wanted.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
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11-30-2006 23:11
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cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
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Well
12-01-2006 05:43
So far so good for me, nothings missing, we have water, haven't missed a TP yet, i can rez anything out of my inventory. Haven't tried to build yet, but i usually wait a few days after an update to try that. Robins a good lady, I'm sure she has her hands are quite full rite now, but i bet if you make a phone call or email her direct she will see that your event flows smoothly, won't you Robin?? Best of luck and success in your event this weekend, plan to drop by and see how its going 
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Tyken Hightower
Automagical
Join date: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 472
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12-01-2006 06:18
From: Soren Romulus The man in charge (Lindens) or the government is always ebil, yes. But, such is life and the risk you take, especially in a software game...I find that the Lindens always continually trying to improve improves the quality of the game. Yes, bugs are to result, sorry, they're human too, unfortunately. But, if your friend wants to leave, then...he can (i.e. X button at top of screen). He took the risk of time and money into something as unstable as Second Life can be. __________________
Carina,
Please, I didn't ask your opinion or anyone elses and when you have been in SL as long as we have please make all the comments you want. Those of us who have invested in something as "unstable as Second Life" understand the risk..that isn't the point of my post..it was a comment on the Current Version, which sucks and how it is making those who are financially effected by the outcome of whether a RW company takes a look at SL or not. Those of us who make a really good buisness in SL, not selling our bodies or Land Baroning or ripping off each other and that is what you call a "GAME" see the potential in SL, of which it seems LL does not or consider its' customers. I have been here since Beta, your join date or alt, whichever it may be, seems to be April? I have been through the good times and the bad times and the current version is the worst. Especially when it effects the outcome of something this important. They were notified before the update through Robin Linden of the impending event and still no even we will try to get the event site back. So if you have to flame or whatever, please do it somewhere else. Pot shots at friends or those who have worked hard to get someplace in life, are not appreciated or wanted. I'm currently pondering adding a page to my group's blog that would keep a graphed index of relative opinion-based update value.. Each update, people can vote -10 to +10 on how much worse/better it is compared to the last one, and we can have some pretty pictures to support what we all know. 
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Laylah Mayfair
Blonde Inside
Join date: 9 Aug 2006
Posts: 23
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12-01-2006 06:20
The new version is buggy, yes, just as every new one. But at least we got rid of the packet loss!!!
Well done, Lindens.
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Tyken Hightower
Automagical
Join date: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 472
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12-01-2006 06:21
From: cinda Hoodoo So far so good for me, nothings missing, we have water, haven't missed a TP yet, i can rez anything out of my inventory. Haven't tried to build yet, but i usually wait a few days after an update to try that. Robins a good lady, I'm sure she has her hands are quite full rite now, but i bet if you make a phone call or email her direct she will see that your event flows smoothly, won't you Robin?? Best of luck and success in your event this weekend, plan to drop by and see how its going  +No missing inventory here Able to rez, usually -Water frequently MIA TP's failing left and right Moreover, 'Not allowed into destination' issue Things are even less willing to rez than before (avatar/clothing shapes especially) Other randomness which supposedly has been fixed since update Not looking good. 
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Lolita Panther
Registered User
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2
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12-01-2006 09:36
yeah.. Nothing missing but everyplace you want to teleport to says " Service unavailable". Good luck teleporting to that event if you can't find it in search 
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WebJedi Regent
Registered User
Join date: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 10
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Failed Upgrade
12-01-2006 20:55
I am in total agreement. This upgrade has been a dismal failure. LL needs to take the system down and roll it back to the previous version. Then they can spend however many days or weeks it takes working out all the bugs.
Being an IT project manager - having 13 years of experience managing software and web app development projects I simply cannot accept the results we are seeing from this upgrade. It is obvious they did not test this properly; this build absolutely should not be in production.
The errors I have personally witnessed, experienced, and have been told about from friends are myriad. Scripting, building, teleporting, searching, rezzing, communicating - virtually every integral feature of the game has been broken by this deployment.
Some of the issues I have encountered: I spent several hours stuck on an island unable to TP anywhere. Normal flight resulted in going off world and crashing SL. Scripts I was working on returned weird errors and objects I have been trying to edit have not been behaving correctly. A new user I convinced to join gave up after an hour of not seeing her avatar on screen. A casino I frequent lost an entire floor of their building along with most of their games. It goes on and on.
I, for one, refuse to be apologetic about my criticisms. I have paid a lot of $ to join and participate in SL. LL has a responsibility to ensure widescale disruptions do not occur. I could understand if there were minor issues, I could understand if there were one or two major flaws, I could understand if there were some major issues but they were resolved in a timely manner, I could even understand if they had to keep the system down for a whole day or even two days to work out all or most of the bugs - but this I cannot understand. It has caused a significant amount of frustration for virtually every one of the users that have logged on today and yesterday, and for anyone who has a monetary investment in SL it has evoked an alarming level of anxiety. If I were managing the release of this build I would expect to be looking for a new job; if I couldn't find a solution fast I have not the slightest doubt in my mind my company would toss me out on the street within a couple of days.
In the many years I have been managing IT projects I have seen some pretty bad snafus - especially in regards to software development initiatives. It is tuff. And that is exactly why you need competent people who are going to be expected to be on top of things. When they screw up they get let go. A lot of money has been lost due to this; seriously, does LL expect people to continue to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in software that is at an unusable level of functionality? I'm sorry, but this is unacceptable.
LL: Time to cut bait. Take the system down, roll back to the previous build, try again as soon as practical. Please.
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Brazil Comet
Registered User
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 122
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12-02-2006 02:38
I have experienced some of the problems (TP, etc) and I read about many others. I will comment on this from a technical only experience in software industry and not for the implications it causes to residents and business in SL
Everybody can understand bugs and problems to a new release of software. But what we have seen here is a big failure which simple means that before they rollout they didn't test the software properly. This most brobably is a fact
Excuses always exist and it doesn't mean that blame should be put here and there. Blaming doesn't get anywhere.
Another thing that makes me worry (since I see signs of this) is the possibility of SL not being able to serve the huge demand and become victim of it's own success (like the ecommerce in the old days, that when they couldn't serve the online customers due to lack of infrastructure and expandability, the shop was down and at the end they were loosing reliability and customers).
I don't have the feeling right now (even I trusted SL to spent some real money on-my risk) that it will be easy for SL to succeed if the numbers (users, land, complexity) goes up rapidly.
Let's hope for the opposite!
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Talthybius Brevity
Headshop Proprietor
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 76
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12-02-2006 14:22
Who thinks LL did load testing of this update before deploying it, raise your hand...
Look ma, no hands!
I've got a question about it in the Linden Answers forum, ut since yesterday morning the Linden's have spent a grand total of 16 minutes answering questions there, so we may not get an answer for quite awhile.
ROLL IT BACK! I'm perfectly happy to lose the work I've done since the upgrade was deployed. Redoing that work will take me a 1/3 of the time it took to do it under the horrid bug swarms of 1.13.
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hurly Burleigh
Registered User
Join date: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 167
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12-03-2006 05:58
I know its good to have a rant and get your frustration off your chest but do you honestly think that LL ever bother to look at these threads?
These "upgrade" problems have been going on fo as long as i can remember and each one brings with it a new crop of BUGS. We have suggested no more changes until all the bugs are sorted but THEY DONT LISTEN. If it were a normal company it would be under new management by now or would have gone bankrupt. (wont happen here as they dont offer compensation for lost time and content). We may as well not bother saying anything and just live with it
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