Welcome Suicide Girls! Don't mind the drama, it comes standard with SL! <grin>

There are no threats whatsoever and you know that. I don't do "subtle", I say what I mean, and if people don't like it, tough.

What exactly am I able to do if one of them comes to my land? Eject and ban - my right as landowner. If I come across one elsewhere... I shall go somewhere else. Quite simple really.

There's a big difference between 'intolerance' and simply taking a dislike to a particular group of people. If, for example, I disliked furries (I don't, as my neighbours happen to be), then saying "I don't like furries" is not intolerance, but searching them out in game and yelling abuse at them because they are furries is intolerance.

What do you expect me to do? Fred Phelps style placard protests? No doubt the landowner would exercise their right to boot me if I tried that.

Lewis

Jeeze, with the attitude you have been displaying in this thread im surprised you get along with anyone at all.

Go take the "J" out of someone elses Joy - preferably in a different forum

Briana Dawson

Gee when could paths cross between a greeter and new people?

Hmm I curious why someone who could not greet everyone equally would be a greeter at all.

explain that...

As part of my greeter role, I give every new player who is referred to me exactly the same high standard of attention and quality in service regardless of who they are.

It is unfortunate that, by giving the group a special last name, they are easily identifiable in game - and as such could be targetted by certain groups of people bugging them for free photos or passwords - or even worse simply based on their name. If it wasn't for that, nobody would know who they are. Avatar X who I greet could turn out to be a complete idiot and the biggest griefer the game has ever seen, or the greatest scripter the game has ever seen, or a great friend. You can't possibly tell what the person is going to turn into once they are 'let loose' on the game.

None of the SG have asked for a greeter, or if they have they haven't selected me, so none of them are able to say whether they got a good or bad greeting from me. So your entire premise for argument is basically invalid.



Easy. Avatar X is a furry, who buys a plot of land next to you. You notice him there and say hello, all is well for a week or so until one day you log on and find a huge ugly bright purple building stuck next to you, causing everything on your land to turn a funny shade of pink, and blocking your nice view. You ask him whether he'd mind turning down the purple, you get a mouthful of abuse and he shoots you with some weapon that blasts you 3 sims away.

Now.... you're going to take a dislike to that individual because of what they have done to you. But the fact that they are a furry is irrelevant - so you aren't "intolerant of furries" because the person next door - who you have taken a dislike to - happens to be a furry.

Lewis

That's not a group of people. That's a person. You make it sound like if a SG came to your land you would eject and ban them just for being who they are, without a chance to prove themselves.

As landowner I can choose to permit or restrict access to whoever I like, for any or no reason whatsoever.

That's not intolerance.... that's my right as landowner. As it is for everyone else who owns a plot of land here.

Lewis

No, actually, it is in tollerance if you do it "just because you don't like those types" if you've never had any bad experiences with "those types". I'd pretty much say thats a textbook example of intollerance, to be honest.

Just because it's legal doesn't mean its not intollerance.

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I think the whole idea of it is sexy and fun.

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If *anyone* with the last name Suicide would like one piece of lavish Victorian furniture 100% free, they can just pop by West Trade Imports LTD before 1 Mar 2006.

Simply decide which single item you want, and send me an IM. I'll drop it to any Suicide Girl's (or Boy's) inventory when I see the message.

Don't thank me, for I'm not being entirely pure myself here. One Suicide photo shoot with *any* content creator's items in the picture is likely to boost their business.

But regardless, now you all really DO have a 'perk' making you special, even if it is merely a little thing from me!

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Perhaps they don't have a problem dealing with polite people who might ask for photos or passwords. Hence, I don't see why you're Judging this as "unfortunate"... unless of course we revisit some of your earlier concerns about the "morality" of people in SL. Then it seems as if you're busy making someone else's business your business. And that leads me to my conclusion that when someone gets involved in other people's business, they have their OWN agenda. And this seems to go hand-in-hand with your earlier suggestion for why you're really in SL.



I'm sorry. I missed the part where you informed everyone why you dislike a group of people "because of what they have done to you." Could you please point me to where you've shared this terrible personal experience? Thank you.

So the next time I fly past somewhere and get ejected by a security script, I should report them for intolerance as it's clearly against "the type of person who likes to use aircraft or vehicles in SL".

If it's "legal" as in "the CS permits it", then I presume I am free to do as I wish.

Lewis

No, it's not that we wouldn't get along. I'm a fairly well-rounded person, believe it or not. I'm sure that if you had no inkling that I was a suicidegirl, you'd talk to me and see that. However, your harsh judgement of me is preventing you from seeing any of that.
I have friends from all walks of life. Even though some inevitably do not agree with my lifestyle choices, we look past our different moral codes and keep the subject of our conversation to our mutual interests. I hope you don't think that I was mocking you with my last post, because I was being sincere about my offer of friendship.

It's too bad you can't distance yourself from your dislike of my occupation. Even though I do not agree with some of your stances, you seem to be very intelligent and I respect your tenacity. It's too bad that that tenacity crosses into a very bad case of hardheadedness, because I like talking to people whose opinions differ from my own. We probably could have learned something from each other.
Oh, well.

The offer is open, if you ever choose to take me up on it.

Only one problem, Lewis: you didn't restrict your comment to ONLY your land. Perhaps you've forgotten what you said:

"as long as our paths dont cross I don't forsee any difficulties arising."

I didn't read where you made this conditional to only your land. Please point me to where you properly framed this level of intolerance. Right now, the comment applies to any place in Second Life OR in real life. I personally would take that as a threat that extended beyond the bounds of SL (and it's already spilled on the forums).

Thank you for pointing out how you were careful not to be globally intollerant.

Also...I'd like to thank all of the people who have been so warm and helpful to a n00b like me. I'm really enjoying SL and everyone in-game has been nice to me.

If you want me to talk legalspeak, with every single detail covered, then I shall.... but most people are able to understand the general concept of the post without trying to pick apart every single little point trying to find a loophole to 'get one back' at someone you appear to have taken a disliking to and want to argue with as a matter of principle.

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No.

First of all, intollerance isn't illegal - It's just pathetic. So not reportable.

Second, an over-agressive script isn't being intollerant - it's not discriminating between one person and another, it's keeping everyone out. Honestly, I think you can see the difference between: "Nobody can come in my house!" and "No whites/blacks/asians/jewish/christians/atheists/men/women" can come in my house.

But, like I said. It's not illegal. I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm just saying it's pathetic, particularly for a greeter.

"most people".

The problem is you don't know if the people to whom you're speaking are "most people".



As do the Community Standards that are intolerant of intolerance.

Welcome to SL, Suicide Girls
I know nothing about your chosen lifestyles other than you have a website. I am guessing that the way you portray youselves on your site is only one facet of who you all are as individuals, like most women

Anyway feel free to look me up, ask any questions, etc. I love meeting new people, specially those whose lives differ from my own, which is most everyone in SL....lol. Inworld, I build, create custom textures, model and Mentor, and in rl live in Australia.

Anyways, again, Welcome

Welcome Lucy.

Rumor has is you will be attending Siggy's pool party today during his show.

I look forward to meeting you in-world.

For those of you, who are not so hard of hearing, Siggy's show is every Sunday from 2pm to 5pm PST and the URL is Fucktard Radio Live : http://winter.wavestreamer.com:2973

That's the same thing some people say about black people's skin, or of my mexican complexion.

How unfortunate.

Welcome to SL, Lucy

Wow, she extended herself and said "get to know me as a person" even after all the shit you have said about them, and you still judge her. Classy.

C'mon Cris, you know as well as I do that that's exactly the way Jesus would have handled it.

Personally, I like to judge people on their actions, not what their profession happens to be.

Both Lucy and Lewis are giving people a lot of information by which to judge them. Pretty funny to see who falls on what side of the spectrum.

Welcome to SL, Lucy Hope you and yours have tons of fun here!

Welcome to Second Life


HP

What I can't figure out is that this is a "welcome" thread; says so right in the title. Yet there's one person here who clearly isn't interested in welcoming them, yet feels compelled to continue posting in this thread in what I assume is an attempt to have this open and inviting discussion locked. In effect, this individual appears to be so unable to welcome them and so full of hatred and intolerance, that interfering in the community's general feeling of goodwill is irresistable.

I'd like to ask that the moderators remove any posts from here on out that are not "on topic" (i.e. "welcoming" and in keeping with the Community Standard's guidance on Intolerance.